I completely agree with this.
However, I don't see this as a problem with over protective parents inasmuch as being all about the Benjamins.
Because when councils can be sued because little Johnny falls off the monkeybars, then there is the perfect reason for them to rip them down and close the park (which costs them money to maintain) and instead build houses or shops where they can generate more income for themselves.
A prime example was the Monash playground in South Australia. One of the scariest and most exciting places on earth for a kid, with metal structures that would burn and scar a child if not respected - but it would be respected because of this. Parents knew it was dangerous, and watched or even joined their kids playing on it.
But now it's been torn down, the metal structures replaced with close to the ground plastic bullshit, surrounded by rubber mats. Seats have been installed away from the play equipment so parents can gasbag whilst kids play almost out of sight.
They say it's to protect the kids, but it was to protect the council from litigation.
The only reason it wasn't closed completely is because it was a tourist attraction, and generated revenue for the council.
well lucky for me i had a family that were gamers and that was an outside. i grew up playing all kinds of sports outside spending most of the day outside playing tag and all that good stuff till the sun went down then going inside and gaming with my sisters or cousins for the rest of the night. i am now 18 and my little cousins dont do any of that they go outside for like a second and thats it. i blame thier parents cause they dont make them do anything. when i grew up all i wanted to do was play a sport outside and watch sports hello i still do today. but my cousins dont even watch sports and thier 8 and 10 and they dont even know how to throw a football and barely know how to throw a baseball and ahh they cant even tell you who won the super bowl last year god when i was 10 i remember wactching the world series with the d-backs and yanks and the rams ,titans classic super bowl ahh but all these kids nowadays know is hey call of duty this and halo that god i hate how these kids are being raised
Where's the outcry against local govts (city/county)? They write the zoning laws, and they're the ones that decide to cram another house or three, or another strip mall, into our local spaces, instead of a aprk or a trail/walkway, all in the name of the all-mighty revenue, e.g. property taxes. A good-sized park with a good variety of equipment might take up the space needed for two houses, and sidewalks aren't that expensive.
They also write the idiotic laws that state schoolyards and other open "public lands" can't be accessed after hours. So, while a schoolyard has excellent, open spaces for playing sports or whatnot, it goes unused for months throughout the year, the good, go-out-and-play months at that, e.g. summer. Uhm, aren't we *the public* and shouldn't *the public* be allowed to use *the public land* in a responsible manner?
I actively get into the faces of the school board and county council about this stuff. Some changes have been made locally, but not nearly enough. In short, *quit bitching* about the problem *and do something*.
And quit blaming video games as much as seems to be happeneing. They're one of many choices to be made for sucking away someone's time. If people choose them over something else, then spend a bit of time examining why the choices are made *first*.
Like some of the other posters I'm also only (or already!) 20, and even I can remember doing some things outside (ask my friends and you'll see why this is surprising). When I was 7 or 8 or maybe 9 I went to a house construction site with some neighborhood friends and my brother, and one of them ended up stepping on a nail, at which point we stopped exploring the site (which one of the kids said was haunted by a dead construction worker)
When I was learning to ride a bike at the embarassingly late time of the summer before 6th grade, my brother hit the brakes on his bike jumping over a ramp and flipped, fracturing some bones in his right arm (I believe)
Perhaps I'm not the kind of person to talk about these kinds of memories, because I don't believe I have many significant scars from them (I don't have scars from smashing that ant hill with a plastic shovel, despite remembering it somewhat clearly), but I remember my experiences from "the outside world," and while I haven't had much to regret, I have certainly had much to learn
On a side note, I wasn't quite sure why I read both kotaku and joystiq until I realized just now by reading this article. Despite the differences in flavor and reported events between the two, there was something else about kotaku that meant I had to keep coming back to it, and it's thought provoking pieces like these that have assured me that, at least in reading kotaku, I am not simply wasting my time
I wonder frequently about how kids are more "removed from the world" than we were. For example, the DVD players in the modern Mom-mobile: I definitely don't question their value over long trips, but I see them running in town too. And when I see them, I think about all of the things I learned by looking out my window and asking questions as we drove through town: what the different types of paint lines mean in the middle of the road, what different types of shops did,and more, things so basic I won't remember learning them. I learned them by a form of observation that today's kids don't have to "put up with."
I'm not saying that those such things naturally spell out doom for the future, but it makes me sad in some undefineable way, and I wonder what the effect will be. Unnoticeable? Just strange?
It leads me to the one thing I wish this fascinating article covered: you note that the sense of vertigo is an aspect of play but, to play the devil's advocate, so what? In other words, this guy labelled that, and I'm sure there's a point to labelling it, but why is it important and what happens in its absence? Is it just more like the wondering I described above? Either way, interesting read.
I agree, it is saddening to see kids growing up on videogames, especially if you're playing cod and run across kids anywhere from seven to ten years old that are maxed out at tenth prestige(just for an example.)I see things like this all the time, and honestly, there's no excuse for parents allowing kids that young to play video games that much. I may only be fifteen, but at least I can say that I have had, and still have, good memories of playing outside with my friends, biking, playing tag, having bonfires, and the list could easily go on.
Want kids to play video games less and play outside more? Here's the solution: remove all ability to save your progress in a game. Sure worked for me when I was little.
@Andrew Thomas: Yeah... no saves meant my friend and I would rent a game and then only leave the couch to sate our physical needs, until the game was completed.
I have fond memories of flooding the lawn with my family hose and then using it to create rivers and streams of joy, waiting to terraform the precipice into hills of laughter and valleys of delight.
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Needless to say, my dad wasn't very happy that day. :P
I have incredibly fond memories of my days building forts and exploring in vacant lots. If you had a decent vacant lot at the end of your street (or at least within bicycling distance), you were set for all-day fun in any weather. They were territories for using our imaginations to re-enact books, movies, TV shows, or just grub around in the dirt and weeds. Plastic army men fought wars against Matchbox cars. Barbies made weed salads.
Moms just made sure everyone had a tetanus shot, and stocked up on bandaids.
I have to say...I wholeheartedly agree with this sentiment. It actually saddens me to see kids nowadays grow up doing little else but play video games - and I'm only 20! Getting scars and scrapes are part of growing up, and some of my fondest memories are from times when I ended up getting hurt doing something I wasn't supposed to be doing with my friends. Can you imagine how incredibly boring Calvin & Hobbes would be if they did nothing but stay at home and play Halo 24/7?
I talk about this quite a bit with one of my co-workers, and even wanted to create a vector piece called "disconnect.me". The focus of the piece is to illustrate how we are all closed off from the outside world, and direct human social contact through computer, television, cell phones, ipods, & video games.
I remember when I was a kid, I was out till god knows when, playing whatever. Like Hide n seek in the dark wearing all black. I got many scars from my childhood. I even have a scar on my forehead from playing with GI Joe toys, which I can still see if i scrunch my eyebrows. Do I regret any of it, hell no. Nowadays, there is a definitely an agoraphobia going on, that the news is not helping us get over. I can't back this up with fact, but I'm pretty sure the amount of child abductions has not increased in 25 years.
A lot of us have good memories of being kids and playing outside with our friends. It was so nice roaming the neighborhood and playing all day with no responsibilities other than showing up on time for dinner.
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Now, people are really too afraid to let their kids wander around town without supervision. We can place some blame on the media and their sensationalist stories that have parents convinced their kids will be snatched away as soon as they leave their yard.
I must have messed myself up at least a hundred different ways growing up. Busted my own knee with a baseball bat, fell 20 feet out of a tree, gave myself amnesia failing a bike jump. All great memories...with the exception of the amnesia one.
I saw my brothers raised indoors and despite my best efforts could never come close to helping them to embrace the fun of being outside.
When I have kids, I'll be sure to limit their indoor time to reasonable amounts and I'll never be above rolling in the mud with them.
@Gordon the Ghost: Hear hear! When my sibs and I were kids, the whole crowd of kids in my neighborhood spent entire summers building bike trails on yet to be developed land next to our development. I don't think I know of a single kid from that group who didn't earn at least one scar or cast from those activities, from trying to flip the swing around the pole, from falls from trees and the like.
I help run a mountain bike association now, and it amazes me the number of younger adults that I run into, some even only a couple years younger than my youngest sib (22, that one) who had NEVER ridden a bike off the street or sidewalk before. I shudder to think what would happen if I asked if they had ever climbed a tree before.
Kids need a chance to be kids. It's why my friends who are teachers have classrooms full of them diagnosed with "ADD" and pumped full of Ritalin to stay still - they don't get the nervous energy out with physical play anymore.
Sure, I played lots of NES/SNES/Genesis when I was little - but then we went outside and played REAL soccer (instead of FIFA on Genesis) or pretend Duck Hunt. (And forget about the whole Punch Out! incident...) Maybe graphics have gotten TOO good now...
@kftgr: I bet, though I'll never play Crackdown enough to find out for myself. Zelda always has some high areas to climb into, too, and my stomach lurches every time I jump off of one.
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I completely agree with this.
However, I don't see this as a problem with over protective parents inasmuch as being all about the Benjamins.
Because when councils can be sued because little Johnny falls off the monkeybars, then there is the perfect reason for them to rip them down and close the park (which costs them money to maintain) and instead build houses or shops where they can generate more income for themselves.
A prime example was the Monash playground in South Australia. One of the scariest and most exciting places on earth for a kid, with metal structures that would burn and scar a child if not respected - but it would be respected because of this. Parents knew it was dangerous, and watched or even joined their kids playing on it.
But now it's been torn down, the metal structures replaced with close to the ground plastic bullshit, surrounded by rubber mats. Seats have been installed away from the play equipment so parents can gasbag whilst kids play almost out of sight.
They say it's to protect the kids, but it was to protect the council from litigation.
The only reason it wasn't closed completely is because it was a tourist attraction, and generated revenue for the council.
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They also write the idiotic laws that state schoolyards and other open "public lands" can't be accessed after hours. So, while a schoolyard has excellent, open spaces for playing sports or whatnot, it goes unused for months throughout the year, the good, go-out-and-play months at that, e.g. summer. Uhm, aren't we *the public* and shouldn't *the public* be allowed to use *the public land* in a responsible manner?
I actively get into the faces of the school board and county council about this stuff. Some changes have been made locally, but not nearly enough. In short, *quit bitching* about the problem *and do something*.
And quit blaming video games as much as seems to be happeneing. They're one of many choices to be made for sucking away someone's time. If people choose them over something else, then spend a bit of time examining why the choices are made *first*.
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When I was learning to ride a bike at the embarassingly late time of the summer before 6th grade, my brother hit the brakes on his bike jumping over a ramp and flipped, fracturing some bones in his right arm (I believe)
Perhaps I'm not the kind of person to talk about these kinds of memories, because I don't believe I have many significant scars from them (I don't have scars from smashing that ant hill with a plastic shovel, despite remembering it somewhat clearly), but I remember my experiences from "the outside world," and while I haven't had much to regret, I have certainly had much to learn
On a side note, I wasn't quite sure why I read both kotaku and joystiq until I realized just now by reading this article. Despite the differences in flavor and reported events between the two, there was something else about kotaku that meant I had to keep coming back to it, and it's thought provoking pieces like these that have assured me that, at least in reading kotaku, I am not simply wasting my time
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I'm not saying that those such things naturally spell out doom for the future, but it makes me sad in some undefineable way, and I wonder what the effect will be. Unnoticeable? Just strange?
It leads me to the one thing I wish this fascinating article covered: you note that the sense of vertigo is an aspect of play but, to play the devil's advocate, so what? In other words, this guy labelled that, and I'm sure there's a point to labelling it, but why is it important and what happens in its absence? Is it just more like the wondering I described above? Either way, interesting read.
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Needless to say, my dad wasn't very happy that day. :P
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Moms just made sure everyone had a tetanus shot, and stocked up on bandaids.
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I remember when I was a kid, I was out till god knows when, playing whatever. Like Hide n seek in the dark wearing all black. I got many scars from my childhood. I even have a scar on my forehead from playing with GI Joe toys, which I can still see if i scrunch my eyebrows. Do I regret any of it, hell no. Nowadays, there is a definitely an agoraphobia going on, that the news is not helping us get over. I can't back this up with fact, but I'm pretty sure the amount of child abductions has not increased in 25 years.
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Now, people are really too afraid to let their kids wander around town without supervision. We can place some blame on the media and their sensationalist stories that have parents convinced their kids will be snatched away as soon as they leave their yard.
08/07/09
I saw my brothers raised indoors and despite my best efforts could never come close to helping them to embrace the fun of being outside.
When I have kids, I'll be sure to limit their indoor time to reasonable amounts and I'll never be above rolling in the mud with them.
08/07/09
I help run a mountain bike association now, and it amazes me the number of younger adults that I run into, some even only a couple years younger than my youngest sib (22, that one) who had NEVER ridden a bike off the street or sidewalk before. I shudder to think what would happen if I asked if they had ever climbed a tree before.
Kids need a chance to be kids. It's why my friends who are teachers have classrooms full of them diagnosed with "ADD" and pumped full of Ritalin to stay still - they don't get the nervous energy out with physical play anymore.
Sure, I played lots of NES/SNES/Genesis when I was little - but then we went outside and played REAL soccer (instead of FIFA on Genesis) or pretend Duck Hunt. (And forget about the whole Punch Out! incident...) Maybe graphics have gotten TOO good now...
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