How amazing this game looks and the prospect of 4 player co-op 'with matchmaking!' *shakes fist @ Modern warfare 2* is really enticing me. But after RE5 let me down with the co-op (amongst other things) I can't help but project how I felt about that game onto LP2. It's stupid to do, I know. But I can't bloody help it! :(
I'm keeping my eye on this game though. Capcom always manage to sucker money out of me. It honestly doesn't take much.
@Random J: Why don't you just try the demo? It has a pretty good selection of stuff to show what the game should be all about. Giant monster fight, regular fights, etc.
@Revenge_of_Nekojin: Yeah, I have! I gave it quite a few plays when it first released. But it made me a little impartial. I played Resident evil 5's demo to DEATH! Then bought the game when it first released and came to the conclusion that 'Public assembly' was the best part of the game! *lol* It's the only damn stage I play on in The Mercenaries.
I won't dismiss Lost Planet 2. Because the 4 player co-op seems like it has the potential to be something special. And in the demo, I didn't completely suck and ranked 1st quite a few times - which bodes well for me...I hope!
If I'm feeling like splurgin' 40 quid and am a little spontaneous when it releases, I can see myself buying it.
@Random J: Why do I feel like I'm the only person in the world who was satisfied with RE5 and it's co-op? I went through the whole game on every difficulty (except easy) with the same friend and we had a blast. Then I played Mercs with another friend and we managed to break into the top 500 for the PA stage. I'm sure we're somewhere down near 100k NOW, but at the time it seemed like a pretty big deal.
@Revenge_of_Nekojin: You shouldn't do! Lots of gamers were satisfied with the game and the co-op. I'm just not one of them. I don't think Capcom exploited the co-op enough. The aspect of team-play never really exceeded kicking a door through together, or boosting Sheva up a broken ladder. Only RIGHT near the end of the game and in the final battle with Wesker did the co-op start to shine and feel relevant. But by then it was too late.
The Mercenaries is what saved RE5 for me, because the mode is awesome! And it touched on that sense of enemy overwhelm and watching each your partners back that I didn't really get in the main game. I'm addicted to it like crack! But you don't tend to get many gamers on it any more :(
Capcom could do with releasing some new content for it. Preferably for free, but this is Capcom we're dealing with.
@Revenge_of_Nekojin: If I was rating games with 5 stars, having co-op in the game normally bumps it up at least one star regardless of how crappy the game is for me. There's something about playing a game with someone else that makes even the most mediocre games "fun".
This goes for RE5. The game was well done, but I didn't really like the game as a RE series game because I felt it strayed too far from survival horror. But playing it co-op bumped it to a "must play" game.
@MrBounce: i disagree otright. As someone who has all the resident evil games..all of them...im talking from resident evil zero on game cube :(which interestingly is viewd as the worst..which ill get back to) up till residnet evil 5.. i can safly say that resident evil was never meant to be a co-op experience. Its a solo..survival horror franchise.And thats when it shines. Zero was viewd as the worst because it wasnt scary enough..BECAUSE? AI partner. The games always had one thing going for them..they made you poo a little when playing them. Res 5 was ruined becauese you had that AI pair of tits ruining the experince whenever she got a chance and is only bareable when a friend is controlling her..but the fear factor is gone.
And you cant use a well crafterd tv spot to enforce your arguement. That add looks awsum..but the game never made me feel like that add says it would.Thats the point of the Add tho. But anyone who bought the game knows better.
@MarkoPolos: This is what I meant about the co-op never feeling relevant. I think there should have been more sections where the game forced you to split up. Give players that sense of security of having a partner and then SNATCH that away by having Chris and Sheva part. Online that would've been great, because you have no idea about the potential danger your partner is in and you know you're unable to help them - and visa-versa.
The co-op only hurt the game for me because Capcom didn't do enough with it. The co-op feels better realized in The Mercenaries than it does in main game - which is why I spent most of my time playing it.
@Gantz: Your Trusted Friend in Science.: it has plenty to do with it. it has giant monsters and is made by capcom, and it isn't as popular outside of japan.
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i don't think it was neccesarily implying that Monster Hunter was bad, more cut back the marketting on it and promote LP2 because it suits a western audience better.
@MrBounce: While I think it was unneccesary to mention MH, it was somewhat relevant being a Capcom monster fighting game.
Personally, I see Monster Hunter as being to Diablo and other dungeon crawler games the same way Mechwarrior 2 fits to Armored Core: Both are the same general genre of game, but play far differently because one focuses on jumping in and having fun (dude, I have a laser sword!) while the other offers a more immersive hands-on experience by making you manage and perform every little bit of minutae manually (dude, I have over 10 keys to change my walking speed!) Some people will find that a welcome change and get way more into it than everyone else, and others will just find it needlessly complicated and tedious.
Personally I played a bit of MH... I think it was 2 on PSP and I was starting to get into it, but then I was wandering around a lifeless environment gathering herbs to mix, and skinning monsters, then setting up a barbecue, and trying to cook the meat to whatever arbitrary shade it was looking for (brown's not enough, but brown is just right, just don't let it turn brown or it's ruined!) The part that really turned me off though was that I played the game for about a week and it still seemed like I had miles to go before I could just finish the tutorials and start playing the game, so I got sick of it before I really got to play. I suspect a lot of the North American audience takes it like that. :/ The only game I've played with a bigger tutorial section was Eve Online, and that's like taking a college course on a game you haven't started to play yet.
@fuchikoma: We're probably going a little far off the main topic here, but then again the main article did mention MH, so I guess it's not completely off topic.
It probably just depends on what type of genre you like, and there's definitely a distinction between types of games popular in the West and popular in the East. There's really no right or wrong like some people seem to feel, but people who live in the West that enjoy games popular in the East get disappointed sometimes because games don't make it overseas.
But at least with the new gen consoles PS3 / 360 (I never imported a 360 game but I'm assuming it's region free as well?) you can import games and play it, so the only real barrier is language.
@joncrofts: No really, you can either use sarcasm or jokes. if you make use of sarcasm in a joke then the joke'd be sarcastic, making it not a joke, it therefore couldn't be a sarcastic joke as that'd be an oxymoron.
You also couldn't use joke-sarcasm, which isn't really sarcasm as it's joke-sarcasm, the opposite. it'd then be the irony of joke-sarcasm which is a whole other story in itself..
@fuchikoma: Monster Hunter is really slow at the get. I played it for about 2 weeks before I gave up on it. Then someone told me it was awesome, so i tried again. Now, around 800 total hours played later, I can tell ya its a game that rewards you for sticking with it. Greatest video game ever made.
Speaking of Lost Planet 2, I was discussing it with someone the other day and we both arrived at the same conclusion. If it gets good reviews then the reviewers can shove off because they gave Monster Hunter a bad review. It's like giving two hamburgers of equal deliciousness reviews but scoring the one with the German flag stick out of it lower than the American flag. #lostplanet2
@Black-Dog-Howls: Monster Hunter and Lost Planet aren't the same kind of game at all. It's illogical to think that everyone who likes one game will like the other. #lostplanet2
@eastx: Hey, when the demo shows me Monster Hunter with pew pew guns in a Monster Hunter style of game play with pew pew guns I'm inclined to believe that I'm playing something similar to Monster Hunter.
Going back and rereading things about LP2 they're describing Monster Hunter....in space...and a competitive multiplayer mode. #lostplanet2
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I'm keeping my eye on this game though. Capcom always manage to sucker money out of me. It honestly doesn't take much.
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I won't dismiss Lost Planet 2. Because the 4 player co-op seems like it has the potential to be something special. And in the demo, I didn't completely suck and ranked 1st quite a few times - which bodes well for me...I hope!
If I'm feeling like splurgin' 40 quid and am a little spontaneous when it releases, I can see myself buying it.
11/27/09
How about 30?
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I went for it, now I just hope to get lucky on ebay for that Wesker & gun DLC
11/27/09
That price is the best I've seen it going for so far. For £30, I'm more willing to take the plunge.
Thanks for the heads up!
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The Mercenaries is what saved RE5 for me, because the mode is awesome! And it touched on that sense of enemy overwhelm and watching each your partners back that I didn't really get in the main game. I'm addicted to it like crack! But you don't tend to get many gamers on it any more :(
Capcom could do with releasing some new content for it. Preferably for free, but this is Capcom we're dealing with.
11/27/09
This goes for RE5. The game was well done, but I didn't really like the game as a RE series game because I felt it strayed too far from survival horror. But playing it co-op bumped it to a "must play" game.
Plus moments like this make co-op fun!
11/28/09
And you cant use a well crafterd tv spot to enforce your arguement. That add looks awsum..but the game never made me feel like that add says it would.Thats the point of the Add tho. But anyone who bought the game knows better.
11/28/09
The co-op only hurt the game for me because Capcom didn't do enough with it. The co-op feels better realized in The Mercenaries than it does in main game - which is why I spent most of my time playing it.
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I personally love Monster Hunter and I know alot of people who share my view.
I'm personally interested in both but I wouldn't belittle one or the other based on my own personal taste.
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I just take issue with baseless jabs such as this.
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Never said they had no relation.
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i don't think it was neccesarily implying that Monster Hunter was bad, more cut back the marketting on it and promote LP2 because it suits a western audience better.
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You maybe seek to much into it, giving it substance where there is none. Having said that, i'd love Monster Hunter on a console.
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It's a specific reason why a Capcom rep said Monster Hunter Frontier (the PC version MMO-style MH) has almost 0% chance of coming out in the West.
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Personally, I see Monster Hunter as being to Diablo and other dungeon crawler games the same way Mechwarrior 2 fits to Armored Core: Both are the same general genre of game, but play far differently because one focuses on jumping in and having fun (dude, I have a laser sword!) while the other offers a more immersive hands-on experience by making you manage and perform every little bit of minutae manually (dude, I have over 10 keys to change my walking speed!) Some people will find that a welcome change and get way more into it than everyone else, and others will just find it needlessly complicated and tedious.
Personally I played a bit of MH... I think it was 2 on PSP and I was starting to get into it, but then I was wandering around a lifeless environment gathering herbs to mix, and skinning monsters, then setting up a barbecue, and trying to cook the meat to whatever arbitrary shade it was looking for (brown's not enough, but brown is just right, just don't let it turn brown or it's ruined!) The part that really turned me off though was that I played the game for about a week and it still seemed like I had miles to go before I could just finish the tutorials and start playing the game, so I got sick of it before I really got to play. I suspect a lot of the North American audience takes it like that. :/ The only game I've played with a bigger tutorial section was Eve Online, and that's like taking a college course on a game you haven't started to play yet.
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It probably just depends on what type of genre you like, and there's definitely a distinction between types of games popular in the West and popular in the East. There's really no right or wrong like some people seem to feel, but people who live in the West that enjoy games popular in the East get disappointed sometimes because games don't make it overseas.
But at least with the new gen consoles PS3 / 360 (I never imported a 360 game but I'm assuming it's region free as well?) you can import games and play it, so the only real barrier is language.
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You also couldn't use joke-sarcasm, which isn't really sarcasm as it's joke-sarcasm, the opposite. it'd then be the irony of joke-sarcasm which is a whole other story in itself..
So... i'm affraid not, jon..
*evil laugh*
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I hope it comes out AFTER Q1 2010, because I would have to sell a kidney if it did.
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I quite enjoyed the demo of LP2, the co-op was very fun. I may pick it up for Christmas or my Birthday early next year. #lostplanet2
11/17/09
Now GS, try to get Nintendo to put more playables in New Super Mario Bros Wii... #lostplanet2
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Going back and rereading things about LP2 they're describing Monster Hunter....in space...and a competitive multiplayer mode. #lostplanet2
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Lame. #lostplanet2