For video games, the NES was the child learning to walk; the Dreamcast was an older child learning to ride a bicycle. In that way they were "firsts", despite all the memorable (and perhaps better) games put out on the early to mid-90s systems.
Both the NES and Dreamcast have a naivete about them... "Entertainment System" sounds golly-gee quaint today, and the "Dreamcast" reminds one of fluffy clouds and pastel spirals, horrendous voice-overs, fuzzy polygons, and cheesy pop soundtracks.
Gaming entered middle school with the introduction of the PS2, and became kind of a dick. #nintendo
That's a damn hard choice between the two...obviously the NES had the larger library and the best NES games are at least arguably better than the best Dreamcast games, but I felt like the DC put out better games at a more consistent rate. For every Super Mario 3 we had dozens of awful titles.
Hard to really compare the two as they were more than a decade apart. It's not apples and tacos, but it may be apples and oranges.
If I could pick any old system, I wouldn't mind getting in some Star Raiders on the Atari 5200 one more time...as long as the controllers lasted longer than 6 months for a change. #nintendo
I know dreamcast (like Laserdisc and 8-track) has some hardcore nostalgic enthusiasts, but putting it on par with the NES? I'm not sure about that. It was a great little system before it was aborted, but... #nintendo
man a freaking mint condition master system would be dope for a christmas gift. almost all my consoles/hand helds were gifts.
lets see... i got an ipod touch (to specifically play games) last year, a ds in 04, a mint condition turbo grafx 16 in 01, a dreamcast in 99, a saturn in 96, a game gear in 92, and my first video game related christmas gift/console ever. that bad boy in the pic (i asked for an nes, my parents made an awesome mistake). that was in december of 89 and i still have the box and all the inserts. when i mention it or show it off, most ppl are like 'wth is that?"
i got my nes and xbox for my birthdays in 90 and 02 respectively. growin up was fun man.
A Neo Geo AES or SNES. I've only been able to play those two consoles, and the games released for their respective consoles, through emulators. You can never fully appreciate anything until you have the real thing.
Garou or Last Blade on Neo Geo and Final Fantasy "III" with Metal Warriors on the SNES? That would be the best damn Christmas since I got my PS2 back in 2001. #nintendo
@KeroseneClimax: I disagree with that, I can totally appreciate games from older systems more through emulators on my PC than I could from something like the virtual console (which completely baffles me as to why people spend money on that stuff) or the real thing. Being able to use save states in old games make them a hell of a lot more enjoyable and ten times less controller throwing rage inducing. #nintendo
@Koztah: 6/10 year old us had a hell of a lot more time and patience to devote to impossible games.
nowadays 26 year old me has no time to keep playing the same level for 6 hours straight. I'd rather enjoy the more limited amount of time I have for gaming #nintendo
@poplin: 27 year old me doesn't need to keep playing the same level for 6 hours straight. 27 year-old me has fully-developed hand-eye coordination and years of experience :P #nintendo
@Koztah: I call bullshit on a six or a ten year old being able to play shit like Super Ghouls 'n Ghosts and having them not rage at the BS that games pulled back in the day.
@Koztah: dude.... games like road runner's death valley rally, battletoads, and some of those capcom games built on frustration like super ghouls and gosts (wtf, beat the game twice keeping the special weapon the whole way to see the ending) are things that i just dont get any enjoyment out of anymore.
@poplin: Road Runner's Death Valley Rally was a Tengen game, wasn't it? They were, as a rule, not only badly designed but also controlled poorly and weren't even fun when they were released. You learned to stay away from Tengen and LJN. #nintendo
@fozfan33: Didn't the Saturn come bundled with Daytona USA, Virtua Fighter 2 and Virtua Cop at one time? I can't see how any other bundle could ever compete with that selection. #nintendo
@shouryuuken: there really wasnt anything better then getting a new system for christmas... i miss those days. now i have to buy them all myself :( #nintendo
@the7k: I'm pretty sure it did. One that I bought off e-bay had some cardboard sleeves with games like Virtua Cop and Daytona,a s well as a Virtua Fighter.
I really only use it to play NiGHTS though.. #nintendo
@the7k: I only got it a few years ago, and haven't been looking for games because I have absolutely no money.
In my last post I forgot to mention that Panzer Dragoon Saga was lent to me by a friend, and it was very enjoyable! And, wow.. amazing graphics for a Saturn. #nintendo
@AcousticCurves: Yeah, I actually got my Saturn at the beginning of this gen. It's still very relevant, with a huge library of great games. If Sega had a single brain cell left, they'd give it the compilation treatment that they've already given the Genesis 30+ times. #nintendo
Ahh the humble NES. how many hours did I waste on Duck Hunt/Super Mario Bros and Super Mario Bros 3? thousands probably. Damn fine machine. Too bad that bloody bottom loader thingamijig wore out. #nintendo
@excel_excel: Duck hunt was awesome. No matter how many ducks you got in a row that dog would rofl at you when you missed. I did enjoy beating Super Mario bros many times though. #nintendo
@excel_excel: What thing wore out? Having trouble getting it to read your cartridge? If so, the trick is to push the cart in, then pull it out just a bit (just enough so it almost doesn't clear the plastic when it's pushed down). Works every time. #nintendo
@Tossy: If you have any kind of electronic repair abilities, you could just take the system apart and use a stiff wire with a slight hook shaped at the end a pull each of the contacts slightly. My NES works so well, I don't even have to push the cartridge down. :) #nintendo
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Fable2 was better than the first? It still had npcs that all seemed the same with very few looks between them and the same voices. No real personality in any npcs although you are supposed connect with them claims peter however you cannot.
Yes I understand you cannot expect hundreds of unique voices or faces but one can expect much more than they delivered. That and some real feeling personality.
The casting sucked after having one spell. The lack of armor was stupid some of the clothing had very obvious clipping errors like one jacket ended up coming through the waist and hanging over the front. Then there's the dog you cannot make leave you alone and the no fear of ever being killed.
The idea of guns tends to kill out armor but when it was still flintlock guns we still had armor so why don't they?
To top it all off the problem with a lot of games. The black and white good and evil choice with no real depth, It's help people to be good kill them to be bad no intricate choices to be made.
It's and rpg shouldn't it be more in depth than it was? I can understand not over complicating a game for your casual gamer but an rpg should be in depth and not made to cater the casual gamer.
That all said and just scratching the surface how was fable 2 better? #listsoflists
Speaking of top 5s... who're the top five Uncharted fans?
I wasn't too concerned with winning or loosing the day of the vote but now after the whole weekend this questions's killing me! It looks like a 3 way tie but I can't be sure where I land in that! #listsoflists
Did we really need a 10 sequels That are Better Than the Original list? Aren't the vast majority of game sequels better than the original?
Wipeout XL, Tekken 2, Banjo Tooie, Forza 2, Gran Turismo 2 Metal Gear 2, Mortal Kombat 2, Marvel vs Capcom 2, Streets of Rage 2, Project Gotham 2, Sonic The Hedgehog 2, Aliens vs Predator 2, Destruction Derby 2, Silent Hill 2... need I go on? #listsoflists
@JayEdGahoover: Sonic 2 was better than Sonic 1? I find them to be about the same. I actually prefer Sonic 1 because the bonus stages with the chaos emeralds are better than the half-pipe bonus stages in Sonic 2. #listsoflists
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Both the NES and Dreamcast have a naivete about them... "Entertainment System" sounds golly-gee quaint today, and the "Dreamcast" reminds one of fluffy clouds and pastel spirals, horrendous voice-overs, fuzzy polygons, and cheesy pop soundtracks.
Gaming entered middle school with the introduction of the PS2, and became kind of a dick. #nintendo
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Hard to really compare the two as they were more than a decade apart. It's not apples and tacos, but it may be apples and oranges.
If I could pick any old system, I wouldn't mind getting in some Star Raiders on the Atari 5200 one more time...as long as the controllers lasted longer than 6 months for a change. #nintendo
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Hmmm, I think I'll wrap my Dreamcast and give it to myself for Christmas this year. #nintendo
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man a freaking mint condition master system would be dope for a christmas gift. almost all my consoles/hand helds were gifts.
lets see... i got an ipod touch (to specifically play games) last year, a ds in 04, a mint condition turbo grafx 16 in 01, a dreamcast in 99, a saturn in 96, a game gear in 92, and my first video game related christmas gift/console ever. that bad boy in the pic (i asked for an nes, my parents made an awesome mistake). that was in december of 89 and i still have the box and all the inserts. when i mention it or show it off, most ppl are like 'wth is that?"
i got my nes and xbox for my birthdays in 90 and 02 respectively. growin up was fun man.
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Garou or Last Blade on Neo Geo and Final Fantasy "III" with Metal Warriors on the SNES? That would be the best damn Christmas since I got my PS2 back in 2001. #nintendo
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If 6/10 year old me can handle it, then anyone can. #nintendo
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nowadays 26 year old me has no time to keep playing the same level for 6 hours straight. I'd rather enjoy the more limited amount of time I have for gaming #nintendo
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but i do see your point. #nintendo
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Sega was always Christmas, Nintendo was a birthday thing for me. #nintendo
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i got it when those 3 free games came with it.. good times! #nintendo
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I really only use it to play NiGHTS though.. #nintendo
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In my last post I forgot to mention that Panzer Dragoon Saga was lent to me by a friend, and it was very enjoyable! And, wow.. amazing graphics for a Saturn. #nintendo
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You hear me? Stick and cardboard box! #nintendo
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"Dumb moment", I didn't realize I had replied to a different comment on the same thread. :/
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Yes I understand you cannot expect hundreds of unique voices or faces but one can expect much more than they delivered. That and some real feeling personality.
The casting sucked after having one spell. The lack of armor was stupid some of the clothing had very obvious clipping errors like one jacket ended up coming through the waist and hanging over the front. Then there's the dog you cannot make leave you alone and the no fear of ever being killed.
The idea of guns tends to kill out armor but when it was still flintlock guns we still had armor so why don't they?
To top it all off the problem with a lot of games. The black and white good and evil choice with no real depth, It's help people to be good kill them to be bad no intricate choices to be made.
It's and rpg shouldn't it be more in depth than it was? I can understand not over complicating a game for your casual gamer but an rpg should be in depth and not made to cater the casual gamer.
That all said and just scratching the surface how was fable 2 better? #listsoflists
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He's clearly staring at her left knee in the picture. #listsoflists
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I wasn't too concerned with winning or loosing the day of the vote but now after the whole weekend this questions's killing me! It looks like a 3 way tie but I can't be sure where I land in that! #listsoflists
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Wipeout XL, Tekken 2, Banjo Tooie, Forza 2, Gran Turismo 2 Metal Gear 2, Mortal Kombat 2, Marvel vs Capcom 2, Streets of Rage 2, Project Gotham 2, Sonic The Hedgehog 2, Aliens vs Predator 2, Destruction Derby 2, Silent Hill 2... need I go on? #listsoflists
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