When you say call by Skype do you mean as a Skype to Skype call, or as a regular long-distance call to the number provided. Cos if so then depending on some folks phone plans it might be cheaper to call via landlines/mobile (and still be stupidly expensive)
Also whats 1pm in Kotaku time?
And the logo thing from a few weeks back. Any follow up?
I'd like to ask him how often people mistake him for Charlie from It's Always Sunny In Philadelphia. It's not spot-on, but it's kinda close, and I've noticed a few other Kotakuites have posted similar observations.
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@Super Seven Incher: He never said they were never ever going to develop a PS3 Bioshock. He said there were no plans (at the time he said it) and no development going on. There was an exclusive deal, which none of us know the details to, which could have changed or expired.
@thesircuddles: My threshold for what constitutes a lie must be different than yours:
"I promise you, there is no secret plan about the PS3 that we're keeping from people. There's no PS3 development going on that we're hiding. There's lots of stuff that gets into game code, plans change over time and we got an exclusive deal with Microsoft ... that's not a Rosetta Stone discovery."
@Super Seven Incher: Indeed, your definition would be under assumption rather than technicality.
"I promise you, there is no secret plan about the PS3 that we're keeping from people. There's no PS3 development going on that we're hiding. "
This means that at the time he was asked the question, there was no PS3 version in development and there were no plans to make one. You can not confirm otherwise, so this remains a fact.
"There's lots of stuff that gets into game code, plans change over time and we got an exclusive deal with Microsoft ... that's not a Rosetta Stone discovery."
Code was found in the PC version that alluded to a PS3 version. Development originally started on both platforms, and then they got an exclusivity deal. The details of the deal are unknown to anyone outside of either company (which would presumably include you). At the time the deal was active, thus 'we got an exclusive deal with Microsoft'.
This is all very simple stuff to digest. If anything he said was a lie, you have no basis for the accusations other than the fact that there is now a PS3 version. That does not mean one was secretly in development at the time he made the above comments. You assume so, but that does not make it so.
True he could be lying, but based on the facts and evidence, I see no reason to believe he was lying at the time. You don't know if the PS3 version was being made at the time of his comment, and I don't know why you assume that's the case. Assumptions are pretty useless in the realm of facts and reality.
@Super Seven Incher: I picture Levine's response being something along the lines of...
"Son, we live in a world that has walls and those walls need to be guarded by men with controllers. Who's gonna do it? You? You, sircuddles? I have a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom. You weep for BioShock and curse the X-Box; you have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know: that BioShock's port, while tragic, probably entertained millions and that my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, entertains millions. You don't want the truth because deep down in places you don't talk about at parties you want me on that wall, you need me on that wall. We use words like countdown clock, pre-order code, exclusive. We use then as the backbone of a life trying to defend something. You use them as a punchline. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very interactive experiences I provide and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you," and went on your way. Otherwise, I suggest that you pick up a controller and stand a post. Either way, I don't give a damn what you think you are entitled to."
Anyone who wants to hear Ken Leving talk more can head over to gamerswithjobs.com It's by far my favorite gaming podcast and Ken Levine has been there at least 3 times already. I know he's on podcast 100 and 150. I know he was also on during the development of Bioshock once or twice, can't remember which podcast tough.
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@Curse_Lily: Auto Modellista! Man, blast from the past, there. I had TOTALLY forgotten about that game. I know it's not that far in the past, but wow... faded into the dark recesses of my memory, that one did. As I recall, the handling was similar to driving on a frozen lake covered in vasoline? Good times.
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Also whats 1pm in Kotaku time?
And the logo thing from a few weeks back. Any follow up?
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I see no lies.
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"I promise you, there is no secret plan about the PS3 that we're keeping from people. There's no PS3 development going on that we're hiding. There's lots of stuff that gets into game code, plans change over time and we got an exclusive deal with Microsoft ... that's not a Rosetta Stone discovery."
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"I promise you, there is no secret plan about the PS3 that we're keeping from people. There's no PS3 development going on that we're hiding. "
This means that at the time he was asked the question, there was no PS3 version in development and there were no plans to make one. You can not confirm otherwise, so this remains a fact.
"There's lots of stuff that gets into game code, plans change over time and we got an exclusive deal with Microsoft ... that's not a Rosetta Stone discovery."
Code was found in the PC version that alluded to a PS3 version. Development originally started on both platforms, and then they got an exclusivity deal. The details of the deal are unknown to anyone outside of either company (which would presumably include you). At the time the deal was active, thus 'we got an exclusive deal with Microsoft'.
This is all very simple stuff to digest. If anything he said was a lie, you have no basis for the accusations other than the fact that there is now a PS3 version. That does not mean one was secretly in development at the time he made the above comments. You assume so, but that does not make it so.
True he could be lying, but based on the facts and evidence, I see no reason to believe he was lying at the time. You don't know if the PS3 version was being made at the time of his comment, and I don't know why you assume that's the case. Assumptions are pretty useless in the realm of facts and reality.
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@TaylorEatWorld:
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KEN LEVINE
DEAD OR ALIVE, YOU'RE COMING WITH ME
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"Son, we live in a world that has walls and those walls need to be guarded by men with controllers. Who's gonna do it? You? You, sircuddles? I have a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom. You weep for BioShock and curse the X-Box; you have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know: that BioShock's port, while tragic, probably entertained millions and that my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, entertains millions. You don't want the truth because deep down in places you don't talk about at parties you want me on that wall, you need me on that wall. We use words like countdown clock, pre-order code, exclusive. We use then as the backbone of a life trying to defend something. You use them as a punchline. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very interactive experiences I provide and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you," and went on your way. Otherwise, I suggest that you pick up a controller and stand a post. Either way, I don't give a damn what you think you are entitled to."
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:)
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Pick his brain about Ayn Rand novels and the complexities of brow sweat related currency. Should be good for a laugh or two.
And an appearance by John Q!
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Otherwise I can see a lot of: Is BioShock 2 gonna be good? Huh Ken, is it?!
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Seriously, Ken, you're better than that. Kick the idiots in the face with a thoughtful game again.
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Do you still want to fuck the Scarlet Witch?
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Isn't it fun to ask for games that will never, ever, EVER happen?
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