Guess what? You totally can debate personal opinion. While you are entitled to your opinion, you have to be able to defend it with some sort of reasoning. If you can't, then your opinion does not hold as much weight as someone who can. There may be no definitive opinion, but you should at least be able to express why you think the way you do about something.
@TheWhiteLight: That may hold true for an objective opinion, but not a subjective one. Someone that doesn't like Majora's Mask, for instance, because of the time limit has not stronger, or weaker, an opinion than someone that simply doesn't like it, period.
It's just a case of not liking something. End of story.
Who wants to start an epic Majora's Mask discussion?!?!?!
*Spoilers*
When playing the game for the first time did you all make the connection that the three in the very beginning of the game is the that one butler Deku Scrub's son? I thought that was a little tragic, but once you realize the pattern of how you acquire the masks in the game then it's even worse. The goron and zora masks were earned after the death of a specific character. In the very beginning of the game, you're transformed into a deku scrub...
The Skull Kid killed the butler deku scrub's son, and used him to create a mask and curse you. That's some heavy shit, and really is just the beginning of what I like about this game.
Anju and Kafei; Song of Healing; Happy Mask Salesmen; themes of friendship and love. I can't wait to discuss it in the Vintage Game Club. [brainygamer.websitetoolbox.com]
Anju and Kafei was amazing. That story took so much additional time to complete, but it was totally worth it. You had to devote all three days to that subplot, or else you'd miss something. Seeing them watch the sunset together on that last fateful day was incredible. Definitely a highlight of my gaming life.
Kickass. Majora's Mask is my favourite of all the Zelda games. Yes, even better than OoT for me.
I loved that it was able to so radically change the mood and setting, and add completely new elements like the three-day system and the Masks, and even with all those changes it still maintained the awesome core gameplay that made OoT so great.
you can get every nintendo game ever made for free from illegal fire sharing methods....it is nice to see that even though nintendo turned its back on the majority of its fanbase there are still people willing to buy their games. They did make alot of good stuff that should be purchased if given the opportunity....probably the one good thing to come out of the Wii
Most of the people here are gamers. True, gamers. What that means is that we actually care about the industry and want to support the companies that we care deeply about. Many of us have grown up playing video games, so simply stealing them isn't even an option for the majority of Kotaku's readers.
I hope you get banned for this shit. Not only do you blatantly condone software pirating, but you spew your hate for a system as if it were fact. Go read Gamesradar and scream "F1RST!" as much as you want, but let us read in peace, thanks.
you cleary have a problem reading what i wrote! How do i says piracy is ok? I said its nice to see people still willing to buy their games!!!You just have a problem with the fact i stated you can get the games online for free illegally. it is NICE TO SEE that people still purchase nintendo games. And since most of us here are "informed" gamers i didnt feel a requirement to state the fact they are the company most hard hit by piracy). Grow up, im probably older then you, more involved in the industry then you and have put more money into the industry then you. So call yourself a REAL gamer all you like, have fun, learn to take things in context!
Okay, I was trying to be civilized and whatnot by admitting that I skipped over an important part of your post and apologizing for said error, but when you make assbackwards assumptions like that, I'm almost sorry I even apologized.
"Grow up, im probably older then you, more involved in the industry then you and have put more money into the industry then you. So call yourself a REAL gamer all you like, have fun, learn to take things in context!"
Do you even realize how immature you sound right now?
'im probably older than you'? Yeah, and your dad can beat up my dad too, right? Geez, how is age even a part of this discussion? What matters is what was said, not the date of birth. What is this the flag pole after school?
'...more involved in the industry then you and have put more money into the industry then you.' Again, WHAT IS THE FUCKING DIFFERENCE! I sincerely doubt you're more involved in the industry than me, but you may be. I was a freelance writer and have been to - and covered - two separate E3's in '05 and '06. Now I'm married so I can't devote the time to it like I normally could so I've stepped away from the professional writing for a bit. If you're more involved than that, you have my respect because I know how hard the industry can be sometimes. You're kind of at the mercy of publishers, and can sometimes get the shaft for no apparent reason.
Dude, if you wanna whip out our dicks just to see whose is the biggest, then you've gone barking up the wrong tree. I apologized for my oversight, and now I have nothing more to say to you. I just hope that you're only this big of an asshole on the internet because I'd really hate to know you if that wasn't the case.
@TRT-X: Water levels period give me troubles. I'm not saying the Fish Boss level was a water level (I never played the game), but if it's a Fish Boss, I'm assuming.
Most of the platform games I really like have at least one water level that almost ruins the entire experience for me. It's like developers feel they HAVE to have water levels. Why developers. WHY!!??!!?
@TRT-X: You and me both, son. I remember the fish boss in Nights into Dreams (the first Nights). That was a whole lotta hurt too, at least until you get the hang of it. Then he's one of the easiest bosses in the game.
That water temple was all kinds of a bitch. Changing the water flow? Come on, seriously? And that freaking temple where there was no up, because the whole thing could rotate and flip? That one was the smallest, and it still took me the longest to complete. Fantastic game, though. La-la-love it. Definitely will be buying it.
@MaxDragon7: Gyaruson said "the water temple" to mean "the water-based dungeon you do in Majora's Mask", and "the freaking temple where this was no up" is the 4th dungeon in Majora's Mask. His whole post was about stuff in Majora's Mask. Thought I would point that out, as you seemed confused.
If you don't have an expansion pack now, that's probably not the easiest thing to find. I just can't imagine many people selling JUST their expansion pack, since it then renders some of their games unplayable. If anything, you'd think they'd sell it together with their N64.
So I guess just lurk around Ebay and wherever, and hope one turns up. Maybe you can find a used one at a Gamestop.
@nworobes: Yes, thank you for clarifying, as I would have never known without someone making it clear. I really am wondering how I can get an expansion pack, but I think eBay is my best bet. Gamestop would be a second option. Again, many thanks. :D
@Titan_X & ren666 & NicolasCage: I'm glad I'm not the only one with a hatred of fish-based bosses.
There's another one I am reminded of in Rygar on the PS2 (also now on Wii). You are basically standing on a land bridge and the boss comes out you (or from the side). Occasionally an attack of his shortens the bridge...and if you take too long he chases you off the other end and over a waterfall.
I think the reason fish bosses are some of the most annoying is because they're freakin' FISH. So you have to involve water somehow, or create some kind of gimmick that makes the battle that much more annoying. And if you add water, it means involving the game's swimming mechanics...which never end well.
@ShatteringLast: That's what you get for your betrayal lol. Actually no, I understand why people own a 360, (myself included) I don't understand why people bought a regular Xbox though... that thing was garbage.
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*ducks*
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Don't try to debate that.
moving on, Im glad the VC gets an awesome new (old?) game to it's roster.
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Good thing your personal opinion holds no more weight than anyone else ;)
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Guess what? You totally can debate personal opinion. While you are entitled to your opinion, you have to be able to defend it with some sort of reasoning. If you can't, then your opinion does not hold as much weight as someone who can. There may be no definitive opinion, but you should at least be able to express why you think the way you do about something.
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It's just a case of not liking something. End of story.
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*Spoilers*
When playing the game for the first time did you all make the connection that the three in the very beginning of the game is the that one butler Deku Scrub's son? I thought that was a little tragic, but once you realize the pattern of how you acquire the masks in the game then it's even worse. The goron and zora masks were earned after the death of a specific character. In the very beginning of the game, you're transformed into a deku scrub...
The Skull Kid killed the butler deku scrub's son, and used him to create a mask and curse you. That's some heavy shit, and really is just the beginning of what I like about this game.
Anju and Kafei; Song of Healing; Happy Mask Salesmen; themes of friendship and love. I can't wait to discuss it in the Vintage Game Club. [brainygamer.websitetoolbox.com]
05/18/09
Anju and Kafei was amazing. That story took so much additional time to complete, but it was totally worth it. You had to devote all three days to that subplot, or else you'd miss something. Seeing them watch the sunset together on that last fateful day was incredible. Definitely a highlight of my gaming life.
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I loved that it was able to so radically change the mood and setting, and add completely new elements like the three-day system and the Masks, and even with all those changes it still maintained the awesome core gameplay that made OoT so great.
Definitely buying it.
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Wow. Seriously dude?
Most of the people here are gamers. True, gamers. What that means is that we actually care about the industry and want to support the companies that we care deeply about. Many of us have grown up playing video games, so simply stealing them isn't even an option for the majority of Kotaku's readers.
I hope you get banned for this shit. Not only do you blatantly condone software pirating, but you spew your hate for a system as if it were fact. Go read Gamesradar and scream "F1RST!" as much as you want, but let us read in peace, thanks.
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Maybe you should have read his entire post first.
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I did read his post, but must have skimmed over that part. I apologize for the grievous error.
@PhoenixSteve:
Apparently wishful thinking isn't an option either...
05/19/09
you cleary have a problem reading what i wrote! How do i says piracy is ok? I said its nice to see people still willing to buy their games!!!You just have a problem with the fact i stated you can get the games online for free illegally. it is NICE TO SEE that people still purchase nintendo games. And since most of us here are "informed" gamers i didnt feel a requirement to state the fact they are the company most hard hit by piracy). Grow up, im probably older then you, more involved in the industry then you and have put more money into the industry then you. So call yourself a REAL gamer all you like, have fun, learn to take things in context!
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Okay, I was trying to be civilized and whatnot by admitting that I skipped over an important part of your post and apologizing for said error, but when you make assbackwards assumptions like that, I'm almost sorry I even apologized.
"Grow up, im probably older then you, more involved in the industry then you and have put more money into the industry then you. So call yourself a REAL gamer all you like, have fun, learn to take things in context!"
Do you even realize how immature you sound right now?
'im probably older than you'? Yeah, and your dad can beat up my dad too, right? Geez, how is age even a part of this discussion? What matters is what was said, not the date of birth. What is this the flag pole after school?
'...more involved in the industry then you and have put more money into the industry then you.' Again, WHAT IS THE FUCKING DIFFERENCE! I sincerely doubt you're more involved in the industry than me, but you may be. I was a freelance writer and have been to - and covered - two separate E3's in '05 and '06. Now I'm married so I can't devote the time to it like I normally could so I've stepped away from the professional writing for a bit. If you're more involved than that, you have my respect because I know how hard the industry can be sometimes. You're kind of at the mercy of publishers, and can sometimes get the shaft for no apparent reason.
Dude, if you wanna whip out our dicks just to see whose is the biggest, then you've gone barking up the wrong tree. I apologized for my oversight, and now I have nothing more to say to you. I just hope that you're only this big of an asshole on the internet because I'd really hate to know you if that wasn't the case.
Have a good one.
05/18/09
I dunno what it is...but Fish Bosses give me all kinds of trouble.
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Most of the platform games I really like have at least one water level that almost ruins the entire experience for me. It's like developers feel they HAVE to have water levels. Why developers. WHY!!??!!?
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That water temple was all kinds of a bitch. Changing the water flow? Come on, seriously? And that freaking temple where there was no up, because the whole thing could rotate and flip? That one was the smallest, and it still took me the longest to complete. Fantastic game, though. La-la-love it. Definitely will be buying it.
05/18/09
I still have to play Majoras Mask on my N64 because I never got an expansion pack. Anyone know where to find one?
05/18/09
If you don't have an expansion pack now, that's probably not the easiest thing to find. I just can't imagine many people selling JUST their expansion pack, since it then renders some of their games unplayable. If anything, you'd think they'd sell it together with their N64.
So I guess just lurk around Ebay and wherever, and hope one turns up. Maybe you can find a used one at a Gamestop.
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Gamestop is a no go. They don't even deal with original Xbox anymore. I'd try local businesses that deal with all generations of consoles.
And, yes. I was talking about Majora's Mask. Although the Water Temple in OoT was a bitch, too :)
05/18/09
There's another one I am reminded of in Rygar on the PS2 (also now on Wii). You are basically standing on a land bridge and the boss comes out you (or from the side). Occasionally an attack of his shortens the bridge...and if you take too long he chases you off the other end and over a waterfall.
I think the reason fish bosses are some of the most annoying is because they're freakin' FISH. So you have to involve water somehow, or create some kind of gimmick that makes the battle that much more annoying. And if you add water, it means involving the game's swimming mechanics...which never end well.
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Hmmm, I wouldn't hold my breath on that one. That's as likely as Metal Gear Solid coming to the Xbox 360...
...hmmm
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Go buy it everyone :D
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One question: where can I get an expansion pack?
I really need one to play, and I really need to play badly! :O