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apoloimagod
07/13/09

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I like that last quote from David Jaffe (even though very often I don't like what he says :-)). I am all for the trend seeking to make games an art form, and have them contain more emotional meaning, and so forth... but at the end of the day, we must not forget that video games are a form of entertainment. We also need those games that provide that escape, just pure unadulterated fun.

Again, I'm also very supportive of the artsy games trend. I loved Braid, but when I see Jonathan Blow and other developers calling all other games "infantile" and "immature", I can't help but think they are a little out of touch. Just as in the movies, there's space for both kind of games. And just as in the movies, it is often the action packed, fat on entertainment, lean on 'meaning' that sell better. Why? Because more often than not, we go to video games seeking entertainment. Of course, in the case of movies, there are a few gems that have been able to pack both things at the same time (like "The Godfather"). We're still waiting for that gem in video games :-)
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Orionsaint
07/13/09

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The Summer Blockbuster experience is basically dead these days. The magic and wonder of movies is gone. Before the Internet you didn't really know what expect when you watched a blockbuster movie, just what the trailer showed. You were left in awe as you wondered how that stunt or special effect was done. These days we know the plot before hand. We know it's all done with computers. It's all so shallow. I'm so glad I grew up in the late 70's and 80's and got to experience the golden age of the Hollywood Blockbuster.
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Shadowstitch
07/13/09

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Haha...except that Roy Scheider isn't the one who pulls the license plate out of the tiger shark's guts. It's Richard Dreyfuss' Hooper. Way to misremember, Jaffe. ;)
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Stephen Totilo
07/13/09

@Shadowstitch: He was four years old. Let the man misremember!
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Curse lily
07/13/09

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Σ(゜д゜;) So the fanboys and trolls were right all video games are just a ripoff of movies and other games ^_^

Emotional resonance is something that games are still wrestling with

I find it pretty damn hard to feel any attachment for any character in a video game except for those in Ico,SotC and FFX especially now with all this heavy action games and all.
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chuffhoncho
07/13/09

@Curse_Lily: I think most games are slim on the emotional resonance because it's a lot easier to make you feel other things such as fear, anxiety, excitement, etc. These things can be manufactured immediately while any sort of serious emotional reaction requires a much longer/more intricate setup. It can be done and has been done very well in past (you've already provided the examples), but it's riskier and doesn't always pay off. It's a shame, really.

It's funny how being able to change facial expressions has been huge in game development for a while now, but it doesn't seem that our characters display any more emotion than they always have(n't).
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Fernando Jorge
07/13/09

@Curse_Lily: except FFX was very lame. Annoying characters with bad voice acting.
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Curse lily
07/13/09

@Fernando Jorge: Apparently we didn't play the same game

This scene especially are pretty emotional

Yuna sending ritual at kilika Village

The farplane scene at guadosalam

The scene at Al Bhed when they teld tidus about Summoners fate at the end of their

journeys

the romantic scene after the battle with seymour natus

I can go on and on, if you didn't like the game fine but to me this game was excellent.
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until.december
07/13/09

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I loves me a good blockbuster, but sometimes the rote dependence on blockbuster cliches has wounded otherwise solid games (Looking at you Killzone 2). Gaming's solid audience and surrounding culture aren't a luxury most other art forms have, so I just hope that developers like Ken Levine and the Bioware crew keep making their explosions smarter, if they need them at all.
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Save me
07/13/09

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There was side scrolling action in Attack of the clones?
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Stephen Totilo
07/13/09

@Save me: Yeah, in the droid factory
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Ad-hominem
07/13/09

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Okay, all the classic 80's movies had a huge influence on gamer's especially Al Jaffe.

Now, I want to know why "Who Framed Roger Rabbit" and "Dirty Dancing" have not caused incredible changes in the gaming world.

Because, we need more games like them.
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Curse lily
07/13/09

@Ad-hominem: Jessica Rabbit=Lara Croft ^_^
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LedRush
07/13/09

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Great article.

I would also be interested to see which "Cult Classic" movies have exerted an overly influential shadow on gaming. The movie to come to mind is "Blade Runner".
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Connoisseur
07/13/09

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Jaws not so much for me, but Indy and God of war make some flavorful memories rise from their grave.
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gold163 (° д° )
07/13/09

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We need more games like Terminator 2. The movie, of course. :P
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onomeister
07/13/09

@gold163 (° д° ): Your statement does not compute. You state that we need more games like T2, but then you say we need more movies like T2. You're contradicting yourself...

Do you perhaps mean that we need more games that mimic the storyline and scenarios that were created by James Cameron in the movie T2, where you're Edward Furlong or Arnie?
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gold163 (° д° )
07/13/09

@onomeister: I meant that we need more games that model themselves after the movie, Terminator 2. Sorry for the runtime error. >.<
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Mister Jack got an iPod Touch!
07/13/09

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Anybody else remember that shitty old Jaws game that appeared on the NES? That has to be one of the most boring games I've ever played. And god help you if you fuck up when you have to hit him with the boat.
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Revenge_of_Nekojin
07/13/09

@Mister Jack is Stalking Konata: I owned that game and beat it multiple times. I saw a crazy, crazy speedrun of the game too, some guy beat it in lke 4 minutes.
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(Zombie) Jölan
07/13/09

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Uncharted is what Indy IV should have been.
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Mister Jack got an iPod Touch!
07/13/09

@(Zombie) Jolan: I have often said this very same thing myself.
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'360 Cabinboy (Corsair)
07/13/09

@(Zombie) Jolan: Has there ever been a more disappointing sequel? I haven't played Uncharted, but anything would've been better than Indy IV's plot.
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gold163 (° д° )
07/13/09

@'360 Fanboy: Uncharted is probably one of the best reasons to own a PS3. But, I think Harrison Ford would be too old to play a Nathan Drake. :P
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SilverFireshot
07/13/09

@gold163 (° д° ): But Shia LeBeouf is just about the right age. ;)
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ricardofreitas
07/13/09

@SilverFireshot: Ooh they wouldn't dare...
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