Well gmail has been in beta for what, like 3 years? It does give them an excuse every time there is a bug though...lets hope Home doesn't do the same, keep the beta name to claim bugs are prevalent in betas.
Why did I just grin when he said he got a Vectrex. Haha. Seriously though, it was an interesting discussion. He used copious amounts of buzz words but overall it was entertaining. The topic I have issue is was when he explained multiplayer. He went on to say how back in the day we would play with people on the couch and then would play multiple games. This is correct. What was INCORRECT was that he said it was lost. It was in fact lost a few years ago but the 360 EASILY fixed that. Not only could we chat, we could EASILY send messages to and from when we needed to. Not so easy to do with the PS3. The interface is rather cumbersome. And for those people who go, "nuh-uh," go back to a 360 and tell me you cannot do it in a tenth of the time. Then he goes on to talk about how you "don't really know people" and I have to disagree. Most 360 gamers you'll note will spend time with their newfound online family for a reason. They DO get to know them. I think the PS3 is taking a step back if these are their true intentions. The goal of the future is to simplify things. 3D interfaces are escapism, but the reality is they will NOT be the ultimate end result. To believe this is to believe in VR after seeing Lawnmowerman. Cool idea... Would never work on the everday scale (unless you're a molecular biologist/geneticist.) -Adam
@excel_excel: The with responses like that is that those people don't realize Sony is putting a lot of money into Home that could be better spent elsewhere. Just listen to the guy in the video, you know Sony is paying him pretty well. Otherwise, what has he got to be so excited about? If it turns to make money for them, then that is great but as of right now it is still a loss.
Who cares? I was excited for Home, got my Beta Invitation, installed, and 15 minutes later I realized that it's really just thousands of kids trying to hump any female who dares wander around freely instead of staying locked in her studio apartment.
I'm not spending $5 for a virtual house - I have a real one that I neglect.
I'm not spending $2 on virtual clothes. I need to buy myself some new ones.
Every now and then I launch it, walk around for a minute or 2, and every time I realize the same thing - it's dumb. I feel terrible saying that because I KNOW some people have put their lives in to it. But for me, it's a collection of fake things that cost real money. I invited 3 of my PSN friends to my 'Summer Home'... we sat aroun for 2 minutes before we were all so bored we quit.
@jriga: My opinion as well...when Sony first started talking up Home I was intrigued. The way they pumped it up, I was like "well, IF it works the way they say it will then that would be kind of cool". But then in the back of my mind I always had serious reservations in that for it to work the way their PR people said it would would take some SERIOUS computing power, bandwidth and programming. All of that costing money and Sony trying to give it away for "free".
So, I was always skeptical as to if they could actually pull it off and have it be as great as their PR spin claimed it would be.
Now that I have tried the Beta, I know for sure...it sucks. It is slow, too much load time going from place to place, boring, and a huge sausage fest.
As people have pointed out many many times, this is nothing more than a Second Life app for the PS Network. So, this POS is what they have been pumping up the media about for 2 years now as THE Big game changing thing that will leap frog PSN over Live?
I am sure there are others that just love it and have a different opinion than mine, but that is MY opinion of it. And from all the friends I have chatted with that have tried it as well, that is their take as well.
@Stymie99: I think you have bigger problems than Sony, though. It was pretty clear that Home was going to be Second Life for PS3. You're ridiculously stupid to think anything other.
@ShadowOdin: Who's "ridiculously stupid"? Sony originally pitched Home as MUCH more than "Second Life for PS3" - Warhawk's integration was particularly intriguing, but all of Sony's 1st party games were supposed to have some sort of incredibly tight integration with home. Planning missions in Warhawk, exploring the Uncharted world, or exploring backstory content in Resistance - these were things that Sony promised.
Even beyond that, Second Life lets you create stuff, it's not just a marketplace for microtransaction garbage and a place to be bombarded by advertisements.
Home is worse than useless. It's a total waste of space, completely uninteresting, and a clear example of what happens when marketing idiots who don't know s**t about game design design your games for you. Pathetic.
@helava: You are, obviously. If not for your impatience, then for the fact that you finnish off your rant by calling it a game.
Have you not listened? One of the premise of Home is that they will listen to the people who use it to improve it. The main thing was a chat for PS3 owners to be able to get together and start talking. I took one look at it and understood in seconds that is what they were trying to do, marketing jab all aside. That's why Home hasn't let me down. It gave me exactly what I expected.
What is really disappointing is the people here who badmouth it. People like that are the real guilty ones. Just sitting around whining on something like that. Don't like it? Don't use it. It's free of charge. If you had thought it had been better for Sony to not do it, then by all means go ahead and uninstall it from your PS3. Or you could go to Home-forums and say that you want those things improved. Just have patience, because things like Home launching into Warhawk is scheduled to come around, it just isn't here yet, and although that baffles me, I won't sit around and badmouth it, because I have the time to be patient.
If even half the people here that says Home sucks made an effort to try and make it a better place by talking to others and go around getting to know the people they play with, then Home would suck a whole lot less and you'd have a larger alternative to all the mid-teen sexual frustration going on there.
But no, they won't. Instead they'll be sitting on Kotaku writing about how bad it is.
I don't think they understand the concept of beta. There needs to be an acceptance of the difference between updating a product (can't call it a game) in a way which is bringing it toward stability and a number of features which is suitable for launch, and updating a game as a means of adding additional post release content. "Beta" is not a term to hide behind after you've released a mostly fully featured product.
@ilCardinal: GMail has been in Beta forever! Years in fact!!!!
Gmail launched on 1 April 2004 as an invitation-only beta release and became available to the public on 7 February 2007. To this day the service remains in beta status and has tens of millions of users
Funny enough, most things we use on the net these days are indefinitely in beta. Or at least they say it is so that they can take longer to fix problems.
The part about Home that still concerns me, and that I don't feel has been addressed, is what about the minor PS3 user-base? The kids? I raise this question for two reasons.
1) I don't like the idea of being in a virtual world of virtual adults, and have a great untold number still be little kids in adults' clothing. It would be like playing Call of Duty, but now those terrible little voices will have an adult body to hide in, with a text-based system to hide their voice. This upsets me.
2) This question needs to be raised. This is just asking for trouble, between pedophiles and children. You've suddenly got them able to virtually bring kids back to their apartments and private-chat them with all sorts of sick shit, trying to meet up in person or whatever. Look, I know it happens on XBLA and the PC and everything, but I think Home, with its avatars, is going to make it all a bit more realistic and shocking when it eventually gets brought up in the news like that man who was stalking those sisters over Xbox Live. I just want an 18+ rule with Home, is what I'm saying. It would make everyones' lives easier.
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Seriously though, it was an interesting discussion. He used copious amounts of buzz words but overall it was entertaining. The topic I have issue is was when he explained multiplayer. He went on to say how back in the day we would play with people on the couch and then would play multiple games. This is correct. What was INCORRECT was that he said it was lost. It was in fact lost a few years ago but the 360 EASILY fixed that. Not only could we chat, we could EASILY send messages to and from when we needed to. Not so easy to do with the PS3. The interface is rather cumbersome. And for those people who go, "nuh-uh," go back to a 360 and tell me you cannot do it in a tenth of the time.
Then he goes on to talk about how you "don't really know people" and I have to disagree. Most 360 gamers you'll note will spend time with their newfound online family for a reason. They DO get to know them. I think the PS3 is taking a step back if these are their true intentions. The goal of the future is to simplify things. 3D interfaces are escapism, but the reality is they will NOT be the ultimate end result. To believe this is to believe in VR after seeing Lawnmowerman. Cool idea...
Would never work on the everday scale (unless you're a molecular biologist/geneticist.)
-Adam
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I wanted it to work I really did I thought it'd be pretty entertaining but I've really had enough of it.
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I don't like it at all either
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How does something "free" fail?
*looks at your name*
NVM, forget I asked.
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I'm not spending $5 for a virtual house - I have a real one that I neglect.
I'm not spending $2 on virtual clothes. I need to buy myself some new ones.
Every now and then I launch it, walk around for a minute or 2, and every time I realize the same thing - it's dumb. I feel terrible saying that because I KNOW some people have put their lives in to it. But for me, it's a collection of fake things that cost real money. I invited 3 of my PSN friends to my 'Summer Home'... we sat aroun for 2 minutes before we were all so bored we quit.
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My opinion as well...when Sony first started talking up Home I was intrigued. The way they pumped it up, I was like "well, IF it works the way they say it will then that would be kind of cool".
But then in the back of my mind I always had serious reservations in that for it to work the way their PR people said it would would take some SERIOUS computing power, bandwidth and programming. All of that costing money and Sony trying to give it away for "free".
So, I was always skeptical as to if they could actually pull it off and have it be as great as their PR spin claimed it would be.
Now that I have tried the Beta, I know for sure...it sucks. It is slow, too much load time going from place to place, boring, and a huge sausage fest.
As people have pointed out many many times, this is nothing more than a Second Life app for the PS Network. So, this POS is what they have been pumping up the media about for 2 years now as THE Big game changing thing that will leap frog PSN over Live?
I am sure there are others that just love it and have a different opinion than mine, but that is MY opinion of it. And from all the friends I have chatted with that have tried it as well, that is their take as well.
Sony has problems, BIG problems.
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Even beyond that, Second Life lets you create stuff, it's not just a marketplace for microtransaction garbage and a place to be bombarded by advertisements.
Home is worse than useless. It's a total waste of space, completely uninteresting, and a clear example of what happens when marketing idiots who don't know s**t about game design design your games for you. Pathetic.
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Have you not listened? One of the premise of Home is that they will listen to the people who use it to improve it. The main thing was a chat for PS3 owners to be able to get together and start talking. I took one look at it and understood in seconds that is what they were trying to do, marketing jab all aside. That's why Home hasn't let me down. It gave me exactly what I expected.
What is really disappointing is the people here who badmouth it. People like that are the real guilty ones. Just sitting around whining on something like that. Don't like it? Don't use it. It's free of charge. If you had thought it had been better for Sony to not do it, then by all means go ahead and uninstall it from your PS3. Or you could go to Home-forums and say that you want those things improved. Just have patience, because things like Home launching into Warhawk is scheduled to come around, it just isn't here yet, and although that baffles me, I won't sit around and badmouth it, because I have the time to be patient.
If even half the people here that says Home sucks made an effort to try and make it a better place by talking to others and go around getting to know the people they play with, then Home would suck a whole lot less and you'd have a larger alternative to all the mid-teen sexual frustration going on there.
But no, they won't. Instead they'll be sitting on Kotaku writing about how bad it is.
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Gmail launched on 1 April 2004 as an invitation-only beta release and became available to the public on 7 February 2007. To this day the service remains in beta status and has tens of millions of users
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1) I don't like the idea of being in a virtual world of virtual adults, and have a great untold number still be little kids in adults' clothing. It would be like playing Call of Duty, but now those terrible little voices will have an adult body to hide in, with a text-based system to hide their voice. This upsets me.
2) This question needs to be raised. This is just asking for trouble, between pedophiles and children. You've suddenly got them able to virtually bring kids back to their apartments and private-chat them with all sorts of sick shit, trying to meet up in person or whatever. Look, I know it happens on XBLA and the PC and everything, but I think Home, with its avatars, is going to make it all a bit more realistic and shocking when it eventually gets brought up in the news like that man who was stalking those sisters over Xbox Live. I just want an 18+ rule with Home, is what I'm saying. It would make everyones' lives easier.