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    The Dangerous Video Game You Weren't Supposed To Play

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    Image of Sustenance Sustenance
    10:48 AM

    In reply to The Dangerous Video Game You Weren't Supposed To Play
    With all due respect to Mr. Gage, who seems to truly strive to make something different, this project is more fascinating as a punch-line than any sort of "catalyst for discussion" about the nature of consequence.

    Lose/Lose (based upon similar discussions elsewhere) has raised questions about the responsibility of program authors to idiot-proof their "statements" in a marketplace full of people who don't pay attention. It even works as a satirical jab at stupid games that hog your resources, or as a warning about computer viruses attached to seemingly innocent applications.

    It probes these questions in a pretty creative way, but I'm not convinced it says anything deeper than that, unless the "real world" to you is little bits of ones and zeroes. #loselose
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    Image of Odin Odin
    05:41 AM

    In reply to The Dangerous Video Game You Weren't Supposed To Play
    Alternatively you could just play this on a PC you've already backed up and plan on formatting. The statement it tries to make kind of falls flat in a lot of situations. #loselose
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    Image of Taggart6: I don't always drink beer, but when I do... Taggart6: I don't always drink beer, but when I do...
    11/09/09

    In reply to The Dangerous Video Game You Weren't Supposed To Play
    Holy Crap!

    So the taggart6 gears are working and I have an idea to up the ante:

    Implement file deletion in MMORPG servers and FPS deathmatch games.

    Each kill results in a lost file.
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    Image of DaveKap DaveKap
    11/09/09

    In reply to The Dangerous Video Game You Weren't Supposed To Play
    So some guy made a computer virus that you can interact with and somehow that's art.

    Okaaaaaaaay. #loselose
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    11/09/09

    In reply to The Dangerous Video Game You Weren't Supposed To Play
    So ... if I boot off of, say, a CD, then presumably it will be deleting files out of the ramdisk. I wonder if it runs under wine ... #loselose
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    Image of Xtrit Xtrit
    11/09/09

    In reply to The Dangerous Video Game You Weren't Supposed To Play
    I cant resist the temptation.. #loselose
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    Image of kemicon kemicon
    11/09/09

    In reply to The Dangerous Video Game You Weren't Supposed To Play
    this article reminds me of my friends t shirt that says "art" and has a stick figure vomiting into a trash can. #loselose
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    Image of High Speed Indeed High Speed Indeed
    11/09/09

    @kemicon: any idea where i can find that shirt? #loselose
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    Image of arniejolt arniejolt
    11/09/09

    In reply to The Dangerous Video Game You Weren't Supposed To Play
    A strange game.
    The only way to win is not to play. #loselose
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    Image of Janglesatwest Janglesatwest
    11/09/09

    @arniejolt: Nice. Tic-tak-toe anyone? #loselose
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    Image of tk. tk.
    11/09/09

    In reply to The Dangerous Video Game You Weren't Supposed To Play
    This reminds of psDooM, where you run around and shoot demons in the first level of Doom and it kills off your running processes accordingly. I run it on OS X occasionally, it's a fun way to crash your system. #loselose
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    Image of Thut Thut
    11/09/09

    In reply to The Dangerous Video Game You Weren't Supposed To Play
    I hope this guy realizes that at least 90% of those people who are "for some strange reason" still playing the game, despite warnings, are doing so on their "friend's" computer and the such.

    By doing this they are in a sense curtailing the Lose/Lose factor and pretty much nullifying the point of the game and its intended artistic message.

    I'm normally a big proponent of art in games, but this just seems like a gimmicky cry for attention -- and not a particularly well executed one at that.

    Ideas like these are a dime a dozen, people just don't act upon them out of respect to others.

    Here's another one for ya:

    What about an FPS that creates a little grave icon on your desktop for every guy you kill. You can try to delete them, but they'll come back to haunt you every now and again, and the game will randomly launch your media player with short clips of you killing those guys.

    Wow! This system would be fairly easy to implement, and it would point out that we don't take digital murder seriously. Sure, it's a malicious virus that will continuously clutter your desktop, but that's just symbolic of a guilty conscious! Art? OK, sure! Mail me a diploma plix! #loselose
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    Image of Janglesatwest Janglesatwest
    11/09/09

    @Thut: I hear that. I do think games can be done in an artful manner but making a gimmick that is destructive is to me a little irresponsible. My concer is that someone will take his code and put it into a game of there own and not tell anyone about it. Then hundreds of comps could have their files deleted because someone who doesn't know otherwise played a game a game. Worse than a virus I say because there is no defense against it. #loselose
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    Image of Koztah Koztah
    11/09/09

    @Janglesatwest: The defense is to not download random shit. Besides, no one needs to take his code, they can write their own - and anything can be considered a virus depending on your antivirus' definition file. #loselose
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    Image of bean bean
    11/09/09

    @Koztah: So, basically, the best defence is common sense. #loselose
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    Image of Koztah Koztah
    11/09/09

    @bean: Who woulda thunk it? #loselose
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    Image of UltimatePancakeSensation UltimatePancakeSensation
    11/09/09

    @Janglesatwest: You mean they'll take his code and learn how to delete files? Wow, you would have to be some kind of computer genius scientist to code that! #loselose
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    Image of Kirocuto Kirocuto
    11/09/09

    @Thut: Or they could be playing on a computer thats destined for computer heaven.

    What better way to give your old clunker one last hurrah before its totally obsolete? #loselose
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    Image of bean bean
    11/09/09

    @Koztah: It sounds like crazy talk! #loselose
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    Image of Thut Thut
    03:14 AM

    @Kirocuto: That's quite true, but in that way, the "Lose/Lose" factor is still taken out of the equation. The point becomes to trash the computer along with the game, so it's practically a Win/Win. ;) #loselose
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    Image of Shiryu Shiryu
    11/09/09

    In reply to The Dangerous Video Game You Weren't Supposed To Play
    Interesting concept... I wonder if I can play it safely on a virtual machine... *goes about his evil plans* #loselose
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    Image of xpnet xpnet
    11/09/09

    @Shiryu: I was thinking this too.. but is it only for the mac? #loselose
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    Image of J-Rad J-Rad
    11/09/09

    @Shiryu: I was thinking the same thing. Most of those high scores were probably obtained in a virtual OS. Nothing real, no worries. #loselose
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    Image of SegamanXero SegamanXero
    11/09/09

    @Shiryu: I am thinking of booting this up in sandboxie... #loselose
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    Image of akumaserge akumaserge
    11/09/09

    In reply to The Dangerous Video Game You Weren't Supposed To Play
    Too bad there aren't any achievements for this game.

    System Killer: Just killed an C:/Windows/Windows32 file. (30G) #loselose
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    Image of Koztah Koztah
    11/09/09

    @akumaserge: Quite a few files in system32 aren't critical. :P #loselose
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    Image of zaghy2zy zaghy2zy
    11/09/09

    @akumaserge: there isn't any windows32 folder... maybe you meant system32? #loselose
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    11/09/09

    @zaghy2zy: The game is an OS X exclusive (which fits with the "art" bit). So no dice on the Windows folders anyhow. #loselose
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    Image of drivebyinsult drivebyinsult
    11/09/09

    In reply to The Dangerous Video Game You Weren't Supposed To Play
    Awesome! Zach's a buddy of mine! He's got some really awesome ideas, it's great to see him get some press! I haven't played this one, nor will I ever, but I love the concept...

    If you wanna try his other games, check out his two iPhone/iPod games. SynthPond is a music toy (like electroplankton) and Unify is a block-drop game like Tetris.. I highly recommend them both.. and they don't do any damage to your devices..!
    Check em out here:
    [www.stfj.net] #loselose
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    Image of Win Laik Pya Win Laik Pya
    11/09/09

    In reply to The Dangerous Video Game You Weren't Supposed To Play
    Wouldn't this make more sense if it deleted a file, say, every time you got hit, or every time you died?

    That way you are punished for doing poorly. In this case, you're punished for doing well, which is a bit counter-intuitive, no?

    Then again, it's a neat idea. #loselose
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    Image of Koztah Koztah
    11/09/09

    @Win Laik Pya: When you get a game over screen, it deletes the game. When you kill aliens, it deletes your files - thus why it's called Lose/Lose. #loselose
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    Image of UltimatePancakeSensation UltimatePancakeSensation
    11/09/09

    @Win Laik Pya: You totally missed the point, eh? #loselose
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    Image of Win Laik Pya Win Laik Pya
    11/09/09

    @UltimatePancakeSensation: Guess so! Didn't catch the part about it deleting itself. that's funny!

    @Koztah: Figured the lose/lose was if you lose... you lose the game, if you win, you lose files. #loselose
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    Image of Railgun5 Railgun5
    11/09/09

    In reply to The Dangerous Video Game You Weren't Supposed To Play
    Three words: External Hard Drive. #loselose
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    Image of Koztah Koztah
    11/09/09

    @Railgun5: There's no guarantee it only deletes files on the drive it's installed on. #loselose
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