Yeah, certainly could be so much worse. :) While not a huge fan...I certainly tap my toe when they are on the radio. Certainly currently, I don't think any Canadian artist is selling more music. I'd personally like Alexisonfire, but I'd take the Hip or Rush. :)
@Curse_Lily: Jesus Christ I remember singing that song for the Karaoke contest 3 years back. Other than the 1 blunder I did (I was raspy near the end) I got a huge applause. Too bad I came in 4th place :(
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@Curse_Lily: its too bad these guys broke up, to this day i just find this song awesome. i'll probably end up picking this when it goes down a bit on price or on release date if the girlfriend makes me buy just for the cutting crew.
While I understand it will likely represent a significant saving as compared to buying all these songs individually, I don't understand why there is this need to push out discs in favour of their online store. SingStar has the exact same problem and all it has really done has caused the song selection to grow stale and sit on my shelf.
I'm not sure I'll be rushing out to grab this set, but you never know considering how much Lips has been popular at my house since picking it up last year. I just hope they will be dishing out at least some of this in a pack that won't cost me 2 to 3 bucks a song.
@nick.soapdish: I would guess that despite the growing technological literacy among the general populace, there are still millions of people who haven't even configured their console for the internet.
I would expect this more of female gamers, who seem like they wouldn't necessarily need online capabilities, as it seems to me they are more prone for something more single-player-oriented instead of the harshly competitive atmosphere of many online multiplayer games.
I would assume a large portion of the demographic that is interested in Lips and SingStar might be this kind of offline gamer, so ultimately while it does screw the consumer that you can't pick and choose DLC songs, I have to assume that a huge portion of their install base wouldn't know how to get DLC in the first place. So ultimately it probably works out better for those consumers, as well the companies making the games.
Sadly, the only people affected are hardcore gamers who actually know how to use their consoles to their fullest.
@nworobes: I don't fault them for releasing it as a disc, really, because I understand a significant portion of players don't have the option of broadband internet. It's the fact that they don't offer them on the download service that is more jarring to me, seeing as I'm sure they could offer the content at a premium since you aren't picking up the tab for manufacturing costs.
@nick.soapdish: Again, I think the company is just going for the most profitable method.
With something like Rock Band or GH, there are discerning gamers who know what's what, and they're less likely to buy disc products if there's DLC, and they'll actively gripe about products that could've been DLC, like GH Smash Hits.
With the karaoke games, I assume the consumers are far less discerning, and again, since I assume they might be very much in the dark about DLC at all, so they have no problem just buying this disc with a bunch of random songs instead of choosing just the ones they like.
So ultimately, if it was DLC, and you just bought like 3 songs, they would make far less money than if you just bought the whole disc. Maybe you'll boycott the game on that principle, maybe you won't, but the boycott option seems less likely.
And even if people do boycott, the ratio of hardcore DLC-aware gamers to casual gamers is pretty huge, so ultimately your dollars are just too little to be missed are probably compensated for by the hardcore gamers who did just cave and buy the disc. I'm sure companies enjoy having consumers that are unaware of Rock Band-style DLC, as it seems to be the better option for making money.
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Wow, Lips is really kicking the crap out of Singstar when it comes to bringing out current pop hits and pop favorites. Good thing I got an Elite 360 as a gift a while back.
@jamonkimbrough: My PS3 is my main Karaoke player, it's a little thing called Ubuntu, pyKaraoke and CD+G - frankly I have no need for either ""Game"" but if I did I would probably pick this up over Sing Star just for "Hammer Time!"
so added with the old lips,all the Guitar hero's,rock bands,Dj heroes....the marketplace is gonna be an eyesore to visit when you favourite piece of DLC comes out for Fallout or Halo etc
because they have to have every song available on show on there that pushes everything else out of sight..and notice these games have all this DLC just when a anticipated piece of DLC is due like Broken steel etc..crafty wankers
How much was wrong with the first Lips? That should decide whether this is an expansion or a fullblown sequel. If there's a lot to fix, do it, otherwise just release more content.
"Lips is getting its DLC act together." Capital HMMMZ.
Sure you go on to say the selection sucks, but Lips won't have their act together until they get more karaoke mainstays available.
Also I am not sure why they see fit to keep most regionalized content from being made available as DLC right away. We live in the global village these days and music is the universal language after all (math notwithstanding).
Rock Band and Singstar have managed to procure decent vocal DLC over time. Here's hoping Lips hits it's stride as time goes on.
@hodayathink: I like neo-noir lesbians: No sarcasm intended. Sadly, I couldn't pull off those moves if I tried, moves that are 20 years old. Although if I could, maybe I'd be a lot slimmer...
Is it just me, or is Urban Outfitters a clothing store for the emaciated? I mean, I am far from fat, but trying on some of the clothing available made me think that the clothing are for people who have quads, pecs, lats, bis, tris, etc.
Even the fit can feel like a fat kid in a store like that.
Meh, I'll stick to Metropark, Nordstrom or Saks Fifth.
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I am far from fat, but trying on some of the clothing available made me think that the clothing are for people who **DON'T**have quads, pecs, lats, bis, tris, etc.
@yeah write: Good to know that I am not the only one. People argue that high end clothes are cut specifically made for a certain cut, and Urban Outfitters attempts to pass themselves off as a higher end retailer.
That said, I can fit Rock N' Republic jeans pretty decently, and those aren't cheap! Even Diesels are comfortable. But I would be afraid to pull of an "Incredible Hulk" pose in even their largest of emsembles. If they thought their clothes look "distressed" now... (And this is coming from a guy who has less than 10% bodyfat on him.)
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@Floral: They say that with any contest you enter, and any live taping of shows you may attend. If you don't want to run the risk of having your face inside of an Urban Outfitters, don't enter.
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"California Love" by 2Pac feat. Dr. Dre and Roger Troutman (U.S.)
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Yeah, certainly could be so much worse. :) While not a huge fan...I certainly tap my toe when they are on the radio. Certainly currently, I don't think any Canadian artist is selling more music. I'd personally like Alexisonfire, but I'd take the Hip or Rush. :)
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I'm not sure I'll be rushing out to grab this set, but you never know considering how much Lips has been popular at my house since picking it up last year. I just hope they will be dishing out at least some of this in a pack that won't cost me 2 to 3 bucks a song.
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I would expect this more of female gamers, who seem like they wouldn't necessarily need online capabilities, as it seems to me they are more prone for something more single-player-oriented instead of the harshly competitive atmosphere of many online multiplayer games.
I would assume a large portion of the demographic that is interested in Lips and SingStar might be this kind of offline gamer, so ultimately while it does screw the consumer that you can't pick and choose DLC songs, I have to assume that a huge portion of their install base wouldn't know how to get DLC in the first place. So ultimately it probably works out better for those consumers, as well the companies making the games.
Sadly, the only people affected are hardcore gamers who actually know how to use their consoles to their fullest.
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With something like Rock Band or GH, there are discerning gamers who know what's what, and they're less likely to buy disc products if there's DLC, and they'll actively gripe about products that could've been DLC, like GH Smash Hits.
With the karaoke games, I assume the consumers are far less discerning, and again, since I assume they might be very much in the dark about DLC at all, so they have no problem just buying this disc with a bunch of random songs instead of choosing just the ones they like.
So ultimately, if it was DLC, and you just bought like 3 songs, they would make far less money than if you just bought the whole disc. Maybe you'll boycott the game on that principle, maybe you won't, but the boycott option seems less likely.
And even if people do boycott, the ratio of hardcore DLC-aware gamers to casual gamers is pretty huge, so ultimately your dollars are just too little to be missed are probably compensated for by the hardcore gamers who did just cave and buy the disc. I'm sure companies enjoy having consumers that are unaware of Rock Band-style DLC, as it seems to be the better option for making money.
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because they have to have every song available on show on there that pushes everything else out of sight..and notice these games have all this DLC just when a anticipated piece of DLC is due like Broken steel etc..crafty wankers
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A sequel could address them.
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I would hope it's a sequel then. Adding more content for a game that has more to address than how much of it people can play hurts more than it helps.
Karaoke seems like pretty simple fun, so I can't imagine it would need many more iterations to get it right.
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Sure you go on to say the selection sucks, but Lips won't have their act together until they get more karaoke mainstays available.
Also I am not sure why they see fit to keep most regionalized content from being made available as DLC right away. We live in the global village these days and music is the universal language after all (math notwithstanding).
Rock Band and Singstar have managed to procure decent vocal DLC over time. Here's hoping Lips hits it's stride as time goes on.
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...What? Just saying.
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Is it just me, or is Urban Outfitters a clothing store for the emaciated? I mean, I am far from fat, but trying on some of the clothing available made me think that the clothing are for people who have quads, pecs, lats, bis, tris, etc.
Even the fit can feel like a fat kid in a store like that.
Meh, I'll stick to Metropark, Nordstrom or Saks Fifth.
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I am far from fat, but trying on some of the clothing available made me think that the clothing are for people who **DON'T**have quads, pecs, lats, bis, tris, etc.
@yeah write: Good to know that I am not the only one. People argue that high end clothes are cut specifically made for a certain cut, and Urban Outfitters attempts to pass themselves off as a higher end retailer.
That said, I can fit Rock N' Republic jeans pretty decently, and those aren't cheap! Even Diesels are comfortable. But I would be afraid to pull of an "Incredible Hulk" pose in even their largest of emsembles. If they thought their clothes look "distressed" now... (And this is coming from a guy who has less than 10% bodyfat on him.)
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Why is address included?
The phrase "and for any other such purposes as Sponsor so determines" seems like trouble.
It just seems like there is more on the line than your face in the store.
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