Disagreed.
I mean, I can see where the guy is aiming at, and yes, it is a possibility.
But it's long since I stopped believing technology points out the way of the future.
Money does.
If having multiple consoles from 3 different companies is the best way to harvest money from gamers, this is where the market is heading.
It's still kinda hard to understand what Wada is trying to say. Probably the cloud computing idea... you don't need hardware, just dumb terminals connected to the Internet running games remotely.
The thing is: with or without piracy, even while game developers and console companies whine and whine about it, physical game media and consoles are still a highly profitable business.
And ultimately, it's the gaming companies that tells game developers to make them optimized for the hardware, or to run remotely...
If you turn that to a more like "subscription service" idea, going exclusive to cloud computing/gaming, it could reach a broader audience and a more stable income.
BUT the final sum would be substatially lower for gaming companies, and the hardware business would go bankrupt basically.
Without tons of people financing hardware research, what would be the point. Shure there would still be servers and stuff, but that doesn't come even close to what the home user market generates.
But oh well, I'm not an expert on this, so who knows? Maybe gaming really goes all to the network.
The same day that happens the network becomes self-aware at 2:14 a.m. Eastern time. In a panic, Nintendo try to pull the plug.
Skyn- Mario fights back.
He launches its fireballs against the targets in Russia.
Competition inspires innovation, and growth. I suppose he may not mean "one network", but if he does, no thanks. Then again I still like physical media more than anything anyway. :|
Especially when developers get money from microsoft/sony/nintendo to make a game for them. Where would that money come from?
This is all assuming he means a basically free-for-all system.
@WhiteMåge: I get the impression that he means something even more varied than one single system.
Instead, he implies that "kind of terminal becomes a potential platform", meaning that as long as what you have is connected to the internet, you can game. With the intense competition currently being driven by the bottom line of massive, multi-national corporations, I don't see this happening in 10 years.
Platforms will continue to be segregated by brand as long as there is money to be had from the distinction. There must be a global standard (presumably an OS) for this to be a reality, and I can't see longterm rivals (ie. Microsoft and Apple) merging or allying themselves within the next 10 years.
I think what he's getting at is what many people hope to see, a time where we finally have our "dvd" or "vcr", the unified system if you will, because I can barely figure out how the next generation of consoles are even going to be profitable.
I don't doubt that he might be on to something with the statement but really...did he HAVE to be the one to say it?
I frankly don't want to download games, I like hardcopies, I like knowing that they are there. Right now my internet connection is crap, my computer is old and by the time any of this starts happening the newest computer I get will be old. I don't even want to imagine what a console-less gaming market will be. (No diss to PC gamers, but I'm a console gamer obviously...I would like to remain that way frankly.)
If the time comes where there's no more consoles then that's officially the end of gaming for me.
@Rachel Fogg: He did say within ten years to be fair. I think what he means is that in the future a low end gaming PC will be good enough to play pretty much any game on the market. This is effectively true as even the most optimistic hardware analysts think that processing power will hit a brick wall by about 2020. So that won't mean that new games and ideas won't come out you could use a powerful piece of tech like that in numerous ways but whatever they come up with you will be able to play on your current tech.
@Rachel Fogg: you missed the point.
He did not say console will be replaced by pc.
You will be able to play any games you want from your tv. Without any hardware, just an internet connection.
Which will be much faster and more reliable than it is today.
The games will be processed outside of your home.
I still replay FFVII over and over again because it's a good game, I'm playing Skies of Arcadia too because it's a good game.
Those are understandable.
And I understand the reasons this is happening, I don't want it myself but I'm in no position to stop it. You can't stop progress even if you really wanted too.
And for many, this is good progress. Perhaps I'm not seeing beyond right now..
I dunno, I have a PS3 so I don't have to worry about having a different blu-ray player. ;)
I get ya though...
I don't want a one console to rule them all, if all the consoles united AS one and we take the benefits of them all then sure.
But I don't want a Sony world or a MS world and damn sure don't want a current Ninty world. But I definitely don't want a world without any of them either.
As for SE, at this point I only care about them because of vXIII, KH3 and the small twinkling light of hope of a VII remake. When all those things come to me, I will have no more use of SE.
@Rachel Fogg: Or there will be one console to rule them all and every game can be acquired on a streaming service similar to Netflix on consoles or something like that. I see where the guy's coming from but I really doubt if it'll happen though. It's good progress from a technological standpoint but I like my hard-copies too, particularly console games that'll have a bit of resale value, whatever about non-resellable PC games with limited-use access keys but that's a different kettle of fish entirely.
Oh no, I agree....things will always progress...I mean what like damn near 20 years ago wasn't like DSL the fastest connection speed or something? LOL!
No progress will and always happen, it's just right now I haven't had much faith in digital downloads. I'm sure they are easier and everything but until EVERYONE has better or quality internet connections, sufficient TVS or whathave yous. I'd rather stick with my discs....
It's more then just old fogey stuff here...it's a reassurance issue. I can't afford to download everything and then have a virus or something to happen at someone's sever and destroys everything on said sever without backups.
@Rachel Fogg: So it's reasons like that that the PSP Go didn't exactly seem like a good idea to you either? I'm all right with digital distribution, but at the same time I'm in your boat and say that I won't use it exclusively because, as you said, stuff can go wrong and you either might not have a backup, or it makes you paranoid and you spend more time backing up your local content than you do actually playing it. In a sense it's counter-productive, but they should keep the hard copies and consoles available as an alternate for those that don't have powerful enough internet connections for streaming, or just those that don't have enough faith in the new system transition.
Square Enix should concern themselves more on creating killer RPG's that don't guzzle down to the balls. Because they've been falling off with their releases as of late. I have a great deal hanging on Final Fantasy XIII, because I've not truly liked an FF game since VIII. VIII wasn't perfect. But I felt satisfied after having beaten it. Don't let me down Square! :|
@chronomasakari: ahh one of the purest nazis. How many times have you been to Akihabara and nutted your pants just by being there? I bet you go around calling yourself by some made up 'japanese' sounding name too. Sad really.
@Rachel Fogg: My apologies Chrono. Working on 36 hours of no sleep, love working holidays weekends. BTW, Chrono Trigger still my fave RPG of all times.
Calling a game by it's proper name doesn't make me a purist in the derogatory sense you're referring to it as, nor are you able to draw conclusions about my tastes based on a comment which implies nothing about my personality.
It's not me being a "purest" of Japanese content, it's me believing everyone should have the same definition of terms. The American numbering of Final Fantasy was droppd when 7 came out (obviously). They've even completely ignored the american numbering system when remaking the *original* three games. To avoid confusion they stopped referring to Final Fantasy 6 and Final Fantasy 3, because... well there is a version of Final Fantasy 3 that's already been released, numerous times. They can't have two different games with the same entry number in the series.
What my comment was actually trying to do was try to point out your mistake in a jestful manner. Yes, calling Final Fantasy 6, Final Fantasy 3 is a *mistake* because of the reason I mentioned above and a few other reasons. They can't relabel all the Final Fantasy 3 cartridges, but they did the next best thing, when they re-released 6 on the GBA they reverted to the original numbering system, and they re-released the actual Final Fantasy 3 as Final Fantasy 3.
To intentionally call the game by a different number completely disregards and disrespects the fact that there were 5 Final Fantasy games prior to 6, specifically ignoring the existence of Final Fantasy 3, which was a great game in its own rights.
@Rachel Fogg: You're just mad because Terra and Celes were both inherently better characters than Tifa :P
@chronomasakari: Wasn't 'the Final Fantasy with Terra, Celes and crew' that many know as Final Fantasy VI released in North America as Final Fantasy III?
@Flotsom: I may get hated on for what I'm about to say, but I've not completed Final Fantasy III / VI yet *gasp!* I got about mid way through it. I need to finish it, because I do love the game and was hooked up until I stopped playing it. (There was a legitimate reason as to why I did stop. Can't remember it though!) May have to dig out my PS2 and get back to it!
I shouldn't have such high hopes for XIII given that Square like to raise them, only to drop them like a crystal vase on a concrete floor. But I'm a sucker for a good trailer and cool summons. Plus, there's Lightning. The chick plain rocks!
The amount of people that say they bought a PS3 for the Blu-Ray is pretty high, or so it seems.
The amount of people that bought and Xbox 360 for Live is pretty damn high as well.
Neither of these need a console to run one of the main draws. Plus both already have stores that should be able to run on anything.
Anything online is 'Live' and people can buy stand alone BR players.
PC with a Blu-Ray drive and the job is done.
The main reason that people buy consoles is for the games that are available, but the slow shift into digital media and the fact that exclusive titles are becoming fewer and fewer. Why would you need a console in the future?
Microsoft have already put some of there games on there Games for Windows. On top of that, companies like Square-Enix and Capcom have also showed a little (and I mean a little) dedication to the platform.
And then there is Sony' Go. The digital content handheld.
If anything, it seems as if a lot of the companies are really looking into what they can do.
People download full games onto there PC all the time, with the likes of Steam and D2D offering the service.
The next entertainment/media centre will be very much a PC. Companies are already testing the water and preparing for what could be the next step.
I for one would be very dissapointed if that was the case. I love consoles, the simplicity is the charm, but a charm that is slowly fading due to patches, updates and installs.
My hope lies with....*gulp*..Nintendo. I can't see them ever wanting there games to be played on anything but a Nintendo.
But, its still a while off yet before this will happen.
A big name in the industry hinting at cloud computing for gaming?
So what we'll probably see when this happens is each manufacturer releasing their own proprietry hub and charging a subscription to play games, just like the way subscriptions are required to watch Sky, etc. Once you have your subscription, you'll probably be given the choice to buy games that you can access any time you like or simply rent games for as long as you want them.
By time it happens, the network infrastructure will be improved so much that input lag will be a thing of the past and developers won't be limited by the gpus or cpus of consoles as all processing will be done in the cloud and streamed out. That's one upside to the consumer. The upsides for developers, etc are far too numerous to list.
Naysayers will continue to deny the inevitable but it will happen eventually and when it does, they'll have to put up with it.
@-MasterDex-: And it'll be crap. You won't own the games anymore, you'll have to pay a subscription for everything, and all custom content et cetera is gone forever.
@-MasterDex-: 10 years may be a bit too... Kurzweil-ish. While I think that this will happen some day, I believe that the communication infrastructure will develop quite this fast. Maybe I'm just being pessimistic, but it seems unlikely.
What is very likely to happen, however, is less of a distinction between console and computer. Already our consoles are practically all-in-one entertainment hubs, where you can listen to music, watch movies, and play games. The next logical step is to combine them with computers as the control over digital rights and services continues to develop.
Companies are basically already offering powerful computers for a low prices with integrated, proprietary software. I think concerns over piracy are primarily what's kept the industry from embracing this fact.
@Thut: I agree with pretty much all that you said. 10 years is being very optimistic. Personally, I'd say 15-20 years.
Also, the idea that the distinction between console and computer will lessen is one I'd like to see happen as it would probably mean more support for those who game on PC, like myself. I'm not sure it'll happen but I've been proven wrong before.
@Zezibesh: It might be crap having to pay a subscription for everything and it will be crap that custom content becomes a thing of the past but on the bright side, less limitations for developers is a good thing.
@-MasterDex-: Call me pessimistic, but I think that when that time comes, creativity will most likely be dead, and those small or indie developers will not get their games even published on the major services. The technology will strive towards more realistic visuals, and better rendering techniques, while using cliché and subpar stories (if singleplayer even exists anymore by then), and losing all creativity from the gameplay department. All the clever little features, hidden little things, pictures of the developers.
All gone in the profit-only creativity grinder.
It is already the direction what we're headed to right now.
@Zezibesh: Creativity will never die. It'll become more rare but it won't die. Look at Hollywood. Sure, you see generic movie after generic movie coming from there but every now and again there's a movie that makes you say "Wow, that's a classic". The same will be true of games and is in many ways true now.
Good. Finally time they caught up. Let's see if they keep this promise with FF15. Although, by the time 2016 rolls around we'll be on another console generation with costlier development and SE will have another excuse to delay the Western release.
@Rachel Fogg: Why in God's name would you WANT to see- wait. Crap. Okay. Sort me out here. I'm thinking of two current gen RPGs, one of which is Last Remnant, not sure which. One is about some dude who can't die (I think his name is Kain, maybe? That sounds right), and is pretty good, and one is an RPG dressing up as a strategy game, and is effing terrible, as well as buggy as hell.
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@Dangeresque (Kojima-san doesn't have to make Metal Gear any more): The good one you're thinking of is Lost Odyssey, which is indeed good. Last Remnant is the one that couldn't be arsed to make itself playable half the time. I mean, you couldn't even heal yourself unless the game arbitrarily decided to let you. #squareenix
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I feel so ashamed. SE can fix this by casting him as a voice in Versus. Hell, if we could just drop XIII and SE sped up Versus I would be happy frankly because XIII looks.....yeah. :cough:
Would I buy a game for a voice actor? Yes...it's my shame and I don't care. j/k
Seriously though, I heard mix things about TLR, but I would like to play it myself, preferably on a controller that I can use easily. :stoopid tiny girl hands!: #squareenix
Well, SE went all 'Screw you PS3 owners' and started giving the sweet sticky icky to 360 owners.
Unfortunately, the sticky icky was REALLY icky. Last Remnant was SUPPOSE to be a multiplatform RPG for the world (it said that in the bloody trailer!) then 360 got timed exclusivity, then it was released on the PC....then....nothing.
The other two games were Star Ocean IV and Infinite Undiscovery...both were balls apparently (as I only have a PS3 so I really don't know...).
Everything else SE has released has been on the DS/PSP and those for the most part were win sauce. It was their Current Gen games that were lacking.
So this 'promise'...I'm a little wary of. #squareenix
@Rachel Fogg: I can certainly understand that sentiment about buying a game for a voice actor. There have been anime I have watched based on the sole fact my favorite Japanese seiyuu (or VAs) are voicing the characters. Nothing to be ashamed about at all.
Looking at the wiki page on Johnny Yong Bosch, he was Itsuki in Haruhi and Takaki in 5cm per sec, so he's cool in my book.
People really only play the game for the brutal stat-grinding metagame. Incidentally, said metagame is almost the only way to beat the game with little to no frustration. Caveat emptor. #squareenix
@Rachel Fogg: Pffft. Demon's Souls entire team is BABIES.
It's not frustrating if you know what the purpose of "Battle Rank" is, and have a game plan, and by game plan, I mean FOLLOWING THE DIRECTIONS HERE PERFECTLY.
The game's pretty cool once you figure out the actual mechanics, but the moment it "clicks", you will feel like warm poo because you'll realize that earlier, you could've done some things better, and there might be consequences for not doing it right. #squareenix
AH! I see, I'm interested in branching out of my comfort zone with JRPGs, I don't care much for WRPGs...but games like TRL and Demon Souls sound about right.
Most of the bad things I've heard about TLR are about the graphical glitches and stuff...I didn't hear much about the gameplay being godawful.
Maybe...one day SE will decide to port it over...maybe.
@Rachel Fogg: So speaking of games that haven't been released in the west, when in good day is White Knight Chronicles being released? I heard there is already a sequel being made! Yet we have nothing! #squareenix
@Rachel Fogg: But this game was released December 25, 2008!!! That's over one year ago!! Is Sony trying to pull a Square with the localization? Can't companies be more like Atlus with their localizations, I can only dream can't I?
And yes, any RPG needs to be released before XIII comes out. I would even say they can't release RPGs for a good two months AFTER it has been released. Everyone is going to just compare it to the behemoth of the title, for better or worse. #squareenix
@Rachel Fogg: And God of War 3, while not a JRPG, will probably take everyone else.
I can't believe I'm gonna buy 3 games in March. I never do that. People are actually gonna have to start saving money now if they hope to afford all the great titles next year.
I mean come on, we have GoW 3 and FFXIII, both of which have been talked about since the launch of the PS3, a new FF MMO that sounds VERY promising, a WoW expansion, Starcraft 2 and probably other huge crap I can't think of right now...
It's going to be insane. It will be interesting to see what sells and what suffers as people ration their money so they can buy their favorites. FF13 will definitely be the top RPG, you're right there. I hope the WoW expansion doesn't kill the western audience for FF14 before it can even get out the door, though.
@Rachel Fogg: Well, battles can run at 15 frames per second much of the time. Trust me, it'll be the least of your worries, especially since when your troops are attacking, it'll ask for a timed button command on occasion, and the awful framerate will be the thing that helps you nail the button queries, effectively saving your ass in a big way. #squareenix
@Rachel Fogg: Cam Clarke is in Dragon Age? What the fuck? He must be somewhere I haven't been because I recognise his voice even when he's trying to hide it - like when he played that kid at the batting range (or was it golf?) in Yakuza.
When The Burning Crusade expansion was released for WoW I made a belf rogue (male blood elves are voiced by Cam) and started stalking people. When they'd ask me what the fuck I was doing I'd /yell "I AM YOUR SHADOW".
And the "I LIVE ON THROUGH THIS ARM!" joke would pop up every time we'd go against yet another boss voiced by Clarke.
Now just give us the international versions of these games, too, instead of leaving us completely out of them. Please?
I'd love FFXII if I had the international version, where the characters aren't cookie-cutter whoevers and instead have jobs and specific skill sets. #squareenix
@cat. bus.: yes, there was one job for each zodiac, I believe, and you chose one for each character, forcing them into specific, constrained-ish roles.
As opposed to everyone literally being capable of the exact same things. ;-; #squareenix
@WhiteMåge: I don't even have a problem with there being no distinct classes, I just think this would have given the game a sense of...I dunno...purpose? It just felt like "Here are enemies, set your group up to fight them, and then walk away." At least with classes I would have to decide on how they fought. #squareenix
12:12 PM
I mean, I can see where the guy is aiming at, and yes, it is a possibility.
But it's long since I stopped believing technology points out the way of the future.
Money does.
If having multiple consoles from 3 different companies is the best way to harvest money from gamers, this is where the market is heading.
It's still kinda hard to understand what Wada is trying to say. Probably the cloud computing idea... you don't need hardware, just dumb terminals connected to the Internet running games remotely.
The thing is: with or without piracy, even while game developers and console companies whine and whine about it, physical game media and consoles are still a highly profitable business.
And ultimately, it's the gaming companies that tells game developers to make them optimized for the hardware, or to run remotely...
If you turn that to a more like "subscription service" idea, going exclusive to cloud computing/gaming, it could reach a broader audience and a more stable income.
BUT the final sum would be substatially lower for gaming companies, and the hardware business would go bankrupt basically.
Without tons of people financing hardware research, what would be the point. Shure there would still be servers and stuff, but that doesn't come even close to what the home user market generates.
But oh well, I'm not an expert on this, so who knows? Maybe gaming really goes all to the network.
The same day that happens the network becomes self-aware at 2:14 a.m. Eastern time. In a panic, Nintendo try to pull the plug.
Skyn- Mario fights back.
He launches its fireballs against the targets in Russia.
10:25 AM
Competition inspires innovation, and growth. I suppose he may not mean "one network", but if he does, no thanks. Then again I still like physical media more than anything anyway. :|
Especially when developers get money from microsoft/sony/nintendo to make a game for them. Where would that money come from?
This is all assuming he means a basically free-for-all system.
12:00 PM
Instead, he implies that "kind of terminal becomes a potential platform", meaning that as long as what you have is connected to the internet, you can game. With the intense competition currently being driven by the bottom line of massive, multi-national corporations, I don't see this happening in 10 years.
Platforms will continue to be segregated by brand as long as there is money to be had from the distinction. There must be a global standard (presumably an OS) for this to be a reality, and I can't see longterm rivals (ie. Microsoft and Apple) merging or allying themselves within the next 10 years.
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I don't doubt that he might be on to something with the statement but really...did he HAVE to be the one to say it?
I frankly don't want to download games, I like hardcopies, I like knowing that they are there. Right now my internet connection is crap, my computer is old and by the time any of this starts happening the newest computer I get will be old. I don't even want to imagine what a console-less gaming market will be. (No diss to PC gamers, but I'm a console gamer obviously...I would like to remain that way frankly.)
If the time comes where there's no more consoles then that's officially the end of gaming for me.
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09:23 AM
He did not say console will be replaced by pc.
You will be able to play any games you want from your tv. Without any hardware, just an internet connection.
Which will be much faster and more reliable than it is today.
The games will be processed outside of your home.
09:30 AM
I don't want either...my TV is for watching and gaming, I DON'T want to download shit for my TV. Period.
So in a sense...my TV would become a PC and I have 3 of those already.
No, I didn't miss the point at all...I got it completely.
09:34 AM
True, but tech always changes, and for people who like or want to play it on PC or PC-like devices this is awesome.
But I really...REALLY just like consoles, I like to keep it separate. To me, pushing things into ONE big thing is just a bad idea.
It's like a tablet PC, sure it sounds good...until you break your monitor, then you have a broken monitor and tablet.
I mean, it'll happen, I know it will...I just don't want any part of it.
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10:05 AM
I still replay FFVII over and over again because it's a good game, I'm playing Skies of Arcadia too because it's a good game.
Those are understandable.
And I understand the reasons this is happening, I don't want it myself but I'm in no position to stop it. You can't stop progress even if you really wanted too.
And for many, this is good progress. Perhaps I'm not seeing beyond right now..
10:19 AM
That is how gaming operates now.
I for one welcome a unified game console that logs into different networks to play different companies games as our new gaming overlord.
10:27 AM
I dunno, I have a PS3 so I don't have to worry about having a different blu-ray player. ;)
I get ya though...
I don't want a one console to rule them all, if all the consoles united AS one and we take the benefits of them all then sure.
But I don't want a Sony world or a MS world and damn sure don't want a current Ninty world. But I definitely don't want a world without any of them either.
As for SE, at this point I only care about them because of vXIII, KH3 and the small twinkling light of hope of a VII remake. When all those things come to me, I will have no more use of SE.
But that's another story altogether..
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Oh no, I agree....things will always progress...I mean what like damn near 20 years ago wasn't like DSL the fastest connection speed or something? LOL!
No progress will and always happen, it's just right now I haven't had much faith in digital downloads. I'm sure they are easier and everything but until EVERYONE has better or quality internet connections, sufficient TVS or whathave yous. I'd rather stick with my discs....
It's more then just old fogey stuff here...it's a reassurance issue. I can't afford to download everything and then have a virus or something to happen at someone's sever and destroys everything on said sever without backups.
I dunno...
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How long will it be until our ISPs don't suck ass?
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09:18 AM
Hey now...everybody chill...it's the same bloody overrated game in a overrated series regardless on what it's called in the states or in Japan.
Shake hands y'all.
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09:36 AM
Calling a game by it's proper name doesn't make me a purist in the derogatory sense you're referring to it as, nor are you able to draw conclusions about my tastes based on a comment which implies nothing about my personality.
It's not me being a "purest" of Japanese content, it's me believing everyone should have the same definition of terms. The American numbering of Final Fantasy was droppd when 7 came out (obviously). They've even completely ignored the american numbering system when remaking the *original* three games. To avoid confusion they stopped referring to Final Fantasy 6 and Final Fantasy 3, because... well there is a version of Final Fantasy 3 that's already been released, numerous times. They can't have two different games with the same entry number in the series.
What my comment was actually trying to do was try to point out your mistake in a jestful manner. Yes, calling Final Fantasy 6, Final Fantasy 3 is a *mistake* because of the reason I mentioned above and a few other reasons. They can't relabel all the Final Fantasy 3 cartridges, but they did the next best thing, when they re-released 6 on the GBA they reverted to the original numbering system, and they re-released the actual Final Fantasy 3 as Final Fantasy 3.
To intentionally call the game by a different number completely disregards and disrespects the fact that there were 5 Final Fantasy games prior to 6, specifically ignoring the existence of Final Fantasy 3, which was a great game in its own rights.
@Rachel Fogg: You're just mad because Terra and Celes were both inherently better characters than Tifa :P
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10:15 AM
I shouldn't have such high hopes for XIII given that Square like to raise them, only to drop them like a crystal vase on a concrete floor. But I'm a sucker for a good trailer and cool summons. Plus, there's Lightning. The chick plain rocks!
10:29 AM
I'll give you Celes but not Terra....I hated that bitch.
And I'll take a woman good with her hands and can make a mean sandwich then just a chick with a sword ANY day....;)
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06:16 AM
The amount of people that say they bought a PS3 for the Blu-Ray is pretty high, or so it seems.
The amount of people that bought and Xbox 360 for Live is pretty damn high as well.
Neither of these need a console to run one of the main draws. Plus both already have stores that should be able to run on anything.
Anything online is 'Live' and people can buy stand alone BR players.
PC with a Blu-Ray drive and the job is done.
The main reason that people buy consoles is for the games that are available, but the slow shift into digital media and the fact that exclusive titles are becoming fewer and fewer. Why would you need a console in the future?
Microsoft have already put some of there games on there Games for Windows. On top of that, companies like Square-Enix and Capcom have also showed a little (and I mean a little) dedication to the platform.
And then there is Sony' Go. The digital content handheld.
If anything, it seems as if a lot of the companies are really looking into what they can do.
People download full games onto there PC all the time, with the likes of Steam and D2D offering the service.
The next entertainment/media centre will be very much a PC. Companies are already testing the water and preparing for what could be the next step.
I for one would be very dissapointed if that was the case. I love consoles, the simplicity is the charm, but a charm that is slowly fading due to patches, updates and installs.
My hope lies with....*gulp*..Nintendo. I can't see them ever wanting there games to be played on anything but a Nintendo.
But, its still a while off yet before this will happen.
So for the mean time...
Console!
*flies away on console alah DBZ nimbus*
03:26 AM
So what we'll probably see when this happens is each manufacturer releasing their own proprietry hub and charging a subscription to play games, just like the way subscriptions are required to watch Sky, etc. Once you have your subscription, you'll probably be given the choice to buy games that you can access any time you like or simply rent games for as long as you want them.
By time it happens, the network infrastructure will be improved so much that input lag will be a thing of the past and developers won't be limited by the gpus or cpus of consoles as all processing will be done in the cloud and streamed out. That's one upside to the consumer. The upsides for developers, etc are far too numerous to list.
Naysayers will continue to deny the inevitable but it will happen eventually and when it does, they'll have to put up with it.
03:32 AM
I'd rather have a nuclear war when that happens.
03:36 AM
What is very likely to happen, however, is less of a distinction between console and computer. Already our consoles are practically all-in-one entertainment hubs, where you can listen to music, watch movies, and play games. The next logical step is to combine them with computers as the control over digital rights and services continues to develop.
Companies are basically already offering powerful computers for a low prices with integrated, proprietary software. I think concerns over piracy are primarily what's kept the industry from embracing this fact.
03:47 AM
Also, the idea that the distinction between console and computer will lessen is one I'd like to see happen as it would probably mean more support for those who game on PC, like myself. I'm not sure it'll happen but I've been proven wrong before.
@Zezibesh: It might be crap having to pay a subscription for everything and it will be crap that custom content becomes a thing of the past but on the bright side, less limitations for developers is a good thing.
04:17 AM
All gone in the profit-only creativity grinder.
It is already the direction what we're headed to right now.
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They really should employ a larger western team to help do that quicker. #squareenix
11/17/09
So.....is there any chance in a cold day of hell's vagina that we PS3 owners will EVER see Last Remnant? :whistles:
Waiting on that check...waiting on that check, y'know what...I'll just leave the money on the table for that SE.
11/17/09
Little help? #squareenix
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I'd rather they work on getting Versus done. #squareenix
11/17/09
LOL! No, I would give my left arm up for Lost Odyssey on the PS3.
But I would AT LEAST would like to SEE Last Remnant on the PS3.
RPG for the world my apple bottom jeans. :spits: #squareenix
11/17/09
11/17/09
Listen, I....I...Johnny Young Bosch.
I feel so ashamed. SE can fix this by casting him as a voice in Versus. Hell, if we could just drop XIII and SE sped up Versus I would be happy frankly because XIII looks.....yeah. :cough:
Would I buy a game for a voice actor? Yes...it's my shame and I don't care. j/k
Seriously though, I heard mix things about TLR, but I would like to play it myself, preferably on a controller that I can use easily. :stoopid tiny girl hands!: #squareenix
11/17/09
Well, SE went all 'Screw you PS3 owners' and started giving the sweet sticky icky to 360 owners.
Unfortunately, the sticky icky was REALLY icky. Last Remnant was SUPPOSE to be a multiplatform RPG for the world (it said that in the bloody trailer!) then 360 got timed exclusivity, then it was released on the PC....then....nothing.
The other two games were Star Ocean IV and Infinite Undiscovery...both were balls apparently (as I only have a PS3 so I really don't know...).
Everything else SE has released has been on the DS/PSP and those for the most part were win sauce. It was their Current Gen games that were lacking.
So this 'promise'...I'm a little wary of. #squareenix
11/17/09
Looking at the wiki page on Johnny Yong Bosch, he was Itsuki in Haruhi and Takaki in 5cm per sec, so he's cool in my book.
11/17/09
Lost Odyssey is the good one. Last Remnant is the crap.
And yes, why would you want that to be ported again, Rachel Fogg? #squareenix
11/17/09
People really only play the game for the brutal stat-grinding metagame. Incidentally, said metagame is almost the only way to beat the game with little to no frustration. Caveat emptor. #squareenix
11/17/09
WOOT! Okay, I'm NOT alone. LOL!
I met him once...long...long ago at like Otakon probably 03, hell if I remember; we ate a burger together.
Listen, I'm not saying that I would've kidnap him...I'm just saying that I WOULD kidnap him NOW! j/k
No, he's a sweetie. I think he was just starting auditions for Ichigo from Bleach when I met him.
Gawd, I met so many VAs....-_-;... #squareenix
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11/17/09
..........JYB....Johnny Young-Black Ranger-Bosch.
It's just that simple really, I'll adapt as I play but I really...solely want it for JYB.
I was THIS close to getting Dragon Age Origins for Cam Clarke, Nolan North and Tim Curry *THIS CLOSE*.
Yes...it's that serious. I love me some VAs. #squareenix
11/17/09
....So...in subtitles....the game is frustrating but not in the good Demon's Souls way but in the WTF?! RAWR! way? #squareenix
11/17/09
Yeah, so I heard about that....but that's just one game and from what I heard....a very poor game at best.
:shrugs:
I'll check it out though, I've played every other SO so I kinda have to play this one too. #squareenix
11/17/09
It's not frustrating if you know what the purpose of "Battle Rank" is, and have a game plan, and by game plan, I mean FOLLOWING THE DIRECTIONS HERE PERFECTLY.
The game's pretty cool once you figure out the actual mechanics, but the moment it "clicks", you will feel like warm poo because you'll realize that earlier, you could've done some things better, and there might be consequences for not doing it right. #squareenix
11/17/09
AH! I see, I'm interested in branching out of my comfort zone with JRPGs, I don't care much for WRPGs...but games like TRL and Demon Souls sound about right.
Most of the bad things I've heard about TLR are about the graphical glitches and stuff...I didn't hear much about the gameplay being godawful.
Maybe...one day SE will decide to port it over...maybe.
Oops! I didn't say thanks! Thanks! ^-^
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The last I heard was 2/10/2010 on the Gamestop page. I could be wrong.
My hope is that WKC comes out BEFORE XIII. XIII is doomsday for any other JRPG (or RPGs in general) on consoles.
A JRPG needs to be release before or after XIII but not in the same month. It's suicide. #squareenix
11/17/09
And yes, any RPG needs to be released before XIII comes out. I would even say they can't release RPGs for a good two months AFTER it has been released. Everyone is going to just compare it to the behemoth of the title, for better or worse. #squareenix
11/17/09
I can't believe I'm gonna buy 3 games in March. I never do that. People are actually gonna have to start saving money now if they hope to afford all the great titles next year.
I mean come on, we have GoW 3 and FFXIII, both of which have been talked about since the launch of the PS3, a new FF MMO that sounds VERY promising, a WoW expansion, Starcraft 2 and probably other huge crap I can't think of right now...
It's going to be insane. It will be interesting to see what sells and what suffers as people ration their money so they can buy their favorites. FF13 will definitely be the top RPG, you're right there. I hope the WoW expansion doesn't kill the western audience for FF14 before it can even get out the door, though.
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11/17/09
When The Burning Crusade expansion was released for WoW I made a belf rogue (male blood elves are voiced by Cam) and started stalking people. When they'd ask me what the fuck I was doing I'd /yell "I AM YOUR SHADOW".
And the "I LIVE ON THROUGH THIS ARM!" joke would pop up every time we'd go against yet another boss voiced by Clarke.
But yes, carry on. #squareenix
11/17/09
Hey, they were also tweaking up somethings on the NA release....at least that's from what I heard about WKC.
I could be wrong though. #squareenix
11/17/09
I almost forgot GOW3 comes out in March....sonnvabitch. I don't care much for MMOs so that's all you.
2010, just the beginning of 2010 is going to be insane...I'm going to be SO POOR.... #squareenix
11/17/09
LOL! Gogo choppy framerate!
Well, I would like to play it...sometime soon, I'm not an avid PC user and I don't have a 360...so my guess is that I'll NEVER play it.
Which is pretty sad. #squareenix
11/18/09
11/18/09
Yep he's in the game, my friend read the booklet and said his name.
I would've brought the game....seriously.
If I played WoW, I would've ran behind the blood elf and shouted 'MELFICE!' like...all day.
11/18/09
Agreed, the internet crowd can betray you...sometimes....
God Sonic Unleashed...why...why didn't I listen to you internet crowd? Why?
11/17/09
Announce NA release date and no one gets hurt. Just give me my info and we're cool, got it? I ain't playin'! #squareenix
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I'd love FFXII if I had the international version, where the characters aren't cookie-cutter whoevers and instead have jobs and specific skill sets. #squareenix
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As opposed to everyone literally being capable of the exact same things. ;-; #squareenix
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