Good catch Owen. Man, I hate the government trying to be my parent. I'm 21, man. I didn't need them to parent me when I was a kid either, I had parents for that.
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Bubble-wrap society and shelter your kids from everything but the bible. That will prepare them to be well-adjusted and mature adults in the real world!
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@Xsyven: That should be met with a congratulation. Drink sweenter, or bubble gum tasting beer; it is as if your smoking because of peer pressure. Then again, in America; it is rare to see a father teach his son the proper way to drink and the meaningful connotations behind it. There is a reason soju and whiskey tastes "sweet" to a trained tongue. Or, just don't drink period.
The fundamental idea behind this legislation is flawed, instead of banning such products; you should teach your young ones properly. It only enforces negative behavior and curiosity.
@PsycheE: Agreed. From my own experiences of watching younger people drink in different places, I found that training the young on how to moderate were better in the long run. I've long since compared 18 year old college kids drinking in the United States to people who were 18 drinking overseas (American troops included), and found that the ones overseas were better able to hold their liquor without being an asshole about it.
This whole "let's put the wool over the eyes" deal has bleeding heart bullshit all over it. To be fair, not too many people on the right are any better at this, either.
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@Adam Hede: They don't need to think it's cool to drink alcopops EVER!
I'm not 100% against real commercials in-game as long as they are relevant to the game or my interests. e.g. If I see an add for tampons playing an EA sports game, I'm done with em, same goes for if I'm playing WoW and see an ad for Burger King.
I dont think that those are of any concern. They arnt even that tasty. They taste like crap. And I live in Illinois. I have not even heard of this movement. And I keep an eye on politics. All I ever hear about is of our jackass Governor.
@hogarth3: Whatever happened to "Innocent till proven guilty"? >:)
On the other side of the token, I ALSO WANT AN INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION ON THE OBAMA OFFICE'S INVOLVEMENT ON THE BLAGOVICH INCIDENT (FROM OUTSIDE OF THE GOVERNMENT RESOURCE). .How the press tried to push off an inner-office investigation as legitimate sure suprises me. That is a blatant insult to the public's intelligence.
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@dead_red_eyes: I've been dying to try the stuff as lemonade is my favorite drink :D but I never got around to it. I guess this being a gaming site and this story qualifies as exposure then maybe there is a point to the politician's madness but then again... I am 30 :)
This is probably why laws like this only work as far as punishing people with rights versus preventing anything.
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Sadly being from Illinois, I give props to them For this. Parents these days lack actual parenting making kids easy to influence. Today's society we are lazy raising children and allowing our government to say whats exceptionable and whats not BUT... Gaming is a form of entertainment such as baseball, basketball, football and advertisement is allowed at those events.
@pridex: Finally someone who's not thinking like an idiot. Props to you. I'm getting ready to be a dad and I don't want my kids seeing those types of ads in his/her games. If people out there want to drink then fine, but I don't want my kid seeing that stuff, and frankly no gamer is ever going to say "this game needs more alcoholic ads".
It makes sense to me. It's the same as not putting beer and cigarette ads in teen magazines. If no one's actually putting them in kids' games yet, then I see no reason for the backlash on here since it's not going to affect anyone anyway.
So are all the people opposing this arguing FOR the ads? I don't exactly see it as an unfair restriction to freedom of adversising.
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@Teancum: Really? As a parent you expect your child to be more influenced by ads then honest, open conversations you'll be having with them?
I don't mean to be critical of you're parenting, but I expect my kid to be more intelligent then that.
Also, the questions isn't that a game needs more alcoholic ads, it is that they weren't in games aimed at kids in the first place, and you could argue it encroaches in free speech.
That's a waste of time and money if you ask me. Especially when we have much more important things our tax payer money should be spent on. In the end I don't pay the government to parent my kids, that's my job.
My parents took the initiative on my "common sense" training and even struck enough of the fear of God in me not to fuck up and step out of line. I learned fairly early that ads were enticers, and that not everything were a good idea.
Hell, I remembered them even letting me try Budweiser at a young age. At the time, it tasted like what I recall to be like putting seltzer water and a mouthful of pennies on my mouth.
Needless to say, the trick worked, and I rarely drink now to this day. Besides, even my my teenage days, we all found Zima and Sun Country to be the weakest trendy thing out there. I have choicier words than this to describe it, but I don't want to offend anyone with that thought.
BOTTOM LINE: Lead by example and teach 'em while they are young, and you won't have that problem. Let the Government parent your kids, and you'll be setting them up for failure and dependecy issues in the long run.
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I don't really see how this is a bad thing... Like you say, there's already a law against it for live venues, so what's the problem with adding one for electronic venues? I mean, you're right, there aren't any alcohol ads in games, but there's nothing wrong with making sure they never are. There's probably a law on the books somewhere that they can't advertise cigarettes, where's the outcry over that?
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I'll trade them a ban on alcoholic drink ads if they ban political ads from ANY political party/PAC on video games PERIOD.
Betcha it wouldn't pass then, right?
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The Bible has wine in it. Read the Gospels.
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The fundamental idea behind this legislation is flawed, instead of banning such products; you should teach your young ones properly. It only enforces negative behavior and curiosity.
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This whole "let's put the wool over the eyes" deal has bleeding heart bullshit all over it. To be fair, not too many people on the right are any better at this, either.
01/03/09
Oh God, why do they have to be illegal now?
WHY?!?!
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I'm just saying...if we as a people are truly concerned about cutting douchebaggery off at its source that would be essential legislature.
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E-T rated games is sometimes played by 12 year olds and they don't need to think its cool to drink that kind of stuff just yet!
real commerciels in games can be cool! But I think its a good idea to keep things like alcohol and tobacco out of it.
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I'm not 100% against real commercials in-game as long as they are relevant to the game or my interests. e.g. If I see an add for tampons playing an EA sports game, I'm done with em, same goes for if I'm playing WoW and see an ad for Burger King.
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On the other side of the token, I ALSO WANT AN INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION ON THE OBAMA OFFICE'S INVOLVEMENT ON THE BLAGOVICH INCIDENT (FROM OUTSIDE OF THE GOVERNMENT RESOURCE). .How the press tried to push off an inner-office investigation as legitimate sure suprises me. That is a blatant insult to the public's intelligence.
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Nooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!
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This is probably why laws like this only work as far as punishing people with rights versus preventing anything.
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It worked in the military and college dorms the World over!
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[www.drinksmixer.com]
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Themed drinks are for morons with more money than brains.
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I surely don't. Yuck.
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Grow up people.
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*shrug*
It makes sense to me. It's the same as not putting beer and cigarette ads in teen magazines. If no one's actually putting them in kids' games yet, then I see no reason for the backlash on here since it's not going to affect anyone anyway.
So are all the people opposing this arguing FOR the ads? I don't exactly see it as an unfair restriction to freedom of adversising.
WE NOW RETURN TO SPONGEBOB SQUAREPANTS - BROUGHT TO YOU BY CORONA!
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I don't mean to be critical of you're parenting, but I expect my kid to be more intelligent then that.
Also, the questions isn't that a game needs more alcoholic ads, it is that they weren't in games aimed at kids in the first place, and you could argue it encroaches in free speech.
That's a waste of time and money if you ask me. Especially when we have much more important things our tax payer money should be spent on. In the end I don't pay the government to parent my kids, that's my job.
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My parents took the initiative on my "common sense" training and even struck enough of the fear of God in me not to fuck up and step out of line. I learned fairly early that ads were enticers, and that not everything were a good idea.
Hell, I remembered them even letting me try Budweiser at a young age. At the time, it tasted like what I recall to be like putting seltzer water and a mouthful of pennies on my mouth.
Needless to say, the trick worked, and I rarely drink now to this day. Besides, even my my teenage days, we all found Zima and Sun Country to be the weakest trendy thing out there. I have choicier words than this to describe it, but I don't want to offend anyone with that thought.
BOTTOM LINE: Lead by example and teach 'em while they are young, and you won't have that problem. Let the Government parent your kids, and you'll be setting them up for failure and dependecy issues in the long run.
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They are syrupy, disgusting, and only really popular with underage kids.
Wine coolers for the loss.
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YES I'm ashamed for making that comment (yet dumb enough to post it... for attention D: ).