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Of course, that is less catchy to say.
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How is technology meant to move forward if you all bitch every time an advancement is made.
All of you who are moaning about Sony putting BC back into the PS3 should be aware that it's your own fucking fault they took it out. All this bitching.
09/02/09
So I'd prefer if it took its sweet time getting here.
Edit: I'd like to say that there are some people below who seem to believe that this is not going to be a 'rising tide' like HD is, where everything has to be upgraded, but a small set of peripherals that go along with HD. If that's true, that's better, but I'm still concerned that Sony is tying blu-ray into this. 3D should be a minor optional thing. If they try to make it go hand in hand with blu-ray, it feels like a trojan horse to me.
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many sets are perfectly capable of displaying 3d images. sure it might not be the best image on all sets but its very possible. in fact turning most sets from 2d to 3d would be a fairly cheap process. but fuck that! sony needs more money. lets sell some expensive ass tv sets ignoring the fact that most people just bought one.
sony needs to get their hands out of the cookie jar. they are going to screw up the really good thing they had w/ BDs.
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Technology moves forward when it is something people/society finds useful. Society hasn't seen widespread 3D being useful despite being able to produce 3D images since like the '50s. You're deluding yourself if you think 3D is going to create "glorious new experiences." Crappy movies and games will still suck and the only difference is you will have spent a couple hundred bucks so you and all your friends can sit around and watch the same crappy movies/games in 3D.
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[www.amazon.com]
wut.
And that still doesn't address the point that by 2014 Blu-ray prices won't be oh so expensive. I mean Christ, $20 for a new release is just oh so much. /sarcasm.
09/03/09
Are you watching movies at home in 3D now? Does your technology allow it? Don't be such an ass. Just how many video games have you played in 3D? Do you honestly think they are going to go into their store room and pull out a piece of hardware from 15 years ago then mass produce it?
Or have they been working on it for years and are now ready to release a product that people will like.
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Glorious experiences - As someone that has gone from Black and White to Colour, Analog to Digital, SD to HD, from 12" to 24" to 32" to 42" currently at 60" with the next improvement probably going to be an 80" from big clunky to slim line, I can honestly say that with each advancement I have been significantly happier.
I remember the first time I played a 360 game on a HDTV, I couldn't believe the difference. I feel bad for people when I see them playing on a SDTV.
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Sony didn't force anyone to upgrade their TV's to HD, nobody is going to force you to upgrade to a 3DTV. Hell if you have a PS3, nobody is forcing you to pay out for a new player because your current one is compatible.
Sony are just offering a product that lots of us want including you but your whiny little bitch ass is bitter because you probably can't afford to get a new TV. If you cancel and save your xbox live fee by the time you want to upgrade (in a decade) you will probably be able to buy a good quality one.
Oh, and how retarded do you have to be, to think 3D movies are going to kill of 2D blurays any time in the next decade.
09/02/09
I kid, I kid. Actually, after seeing the great cartoon Coraline in 3d I'm very enamored by the technology. But coming from a young techie, that just sounds like enthusiast bluster rather than actual consumer excitement. I can't imagine this'll make people work harder or spend the extra bucks to replace their still factory fresh machines. But I do realize that people like me will flock to this like moths to a flame.
Just imagine for a moment the possibilities of having both 3d glasses with head tracking technology. This is the portal we've been talking about so long. This is the way we make that screen a real window into somewhere else and reach out to something that never existed. We're inches away from real revolutions in entertainment. It just takes a stupid amount of money to get there.
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That said, what about multiple tv households? Wouldn't most people's second or third TV be an SDTV?
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Nobody needs to convince you what to like, fool.
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I wouldn't mind getting a 120hz monitor for 3d as long there's a way I can use the shutter glasses for more then one thing without using a PC if possible. Also most of the 120hz HDTV LCD only can take inputs as 60hz and then double the refresh rate to 120hz but that doesn't mean it'll work since the tv can't accept true 120hz signal. It'll take a good 2 or 3 years before it hits mainstream as long the companies keeps on supporting it.
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So it's not that drastic change, just a small bump in the tech. you know that whole PS3.5 theory, just for TVs
09/02/09
The number of 3D movies already out is crazy and you're damn right I want to see them in my homes. If you don't, keep your money.
09/02/09
It's not like Sony or any company is holding a gun point-blank and saying you're going to have to buy this or you'll miss out. Besides a lot of people do buy new TV systems every 5-7 years and it'll prolly be accessible to the early adopters of the HD first and then the others as prices reach more reasonable rates.
3D is currently trying to have a major revival and for the most part it's mixed results. The reason why 3D came back to the cinemas is to bring more crowds to the cinemas as they were starting to dwindle. Now TV needs more audience (not that they lack or anything) so they'd like to bring cinema-tech to your homes. I don't get the reason for people to complain over this. It's not like everything that's developed ends up in consumer homes right away.
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Until 3D can be achieved without a peripheral, I can't see it catching on in the mainstream.
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Had the 3D affected the gameplay I would've agreed with you, but since it doesn't, it renders your complaint moot.
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By the way, I also remember some developers complaining back in 2005, saying that with that kind of power they could do practically anything in SD, but by increasing the standard resolution, a lot of it got lost on processing more pixels.
I'm not saying the move to HD was necessarily a bad thing - we've been listening about HDTV for years and it was finally the right time to do it - but I wouldn't welcome another similar change in the next 10 years or so. 3D, 1440p, whatever - I don't want it.
09/02/09
What devs are those? PC games have been hitting HD resolutions since before 2005, so I have a hard time believing that. Besides, Odin is right, 3D tech is optional. You can see Up in 3D or not, just like you can play PS360 games on a SDTV. Support for new tech doesn't make that new tech the default standard. By you logic, we'd be required to have HD sets to play on the HD consoles. And that's clearly not the case. The gameplay itself is in no way effected by SD or HDTV's, and nobody is holding a gun to your head to go out and buy a HD set. Options are good for people. Just because you can't afford or don't want to support a tech doesn't mean the option shouldn't be there for others.
09/02/09
Then there's ignorance of safe frames. People forget that even most HD sets have overscan, some of them almost as much as your average SD set... So why are we still seeing subtitles right at the bottom of the screen and action that goes out of view? It's ugly. Safe frames FTW.
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As far as the other thing is concerned, read my post again, it's all already there. Hey, you don't need a color TV either, it's just an option! Come on now... If companies start pushing for that tech, you'll want a new set sooner rather than later. Sure, you won't exactly need it, but until you get it, you'll be suffering a sub-par experience. If I want things to be that way, I'll just stick with PC gaming, thanks (I'm in the process of movig away form PC gaming for very similar reasons, by the way).
But forget about all that, what I'm primarily saying is that if certain companies try to force that switch too soon, they'll probably hit the wall, and others (like Nintendo this gen) will take advantage of the situation. Most people are just not ready yet and it's questionable whether it's financially viable to invest in that technology only for the sake of a handful of tech freaks.
09/02/09
Come on dude, you're falling for companies marketing hook, line, and sinker. You do realize that early adopters actually get less of the full experience than later buyers 90% of the time (with the PS3 being the exception)? The desire to be on the bleeding edge is your own fault and not the companies'. It's not required, and I guarantee I get the same experience playing Crysis or Mirror's Edge on my $1000 PC compared to the guy with the $3000 PC. Believe me, I've had the multi-thousand dollar setups before. It's all about diminishing returns. Sure, the experience may be "better" on a more expensive setup, but it in no way justifies paying thousands more for 10-15% boosts in performance.
Nowhere did Sony say they are going to start aggressively marketing 3D technology to consumers, just that they will start making them available to consumers. Hell, even Blu-ray isn't being forced on anyone as there has yet to be a single Blu-ray only release. It was only a few years ago that VHS tapes stopped being produced. This is nothing new - improvements in TV technology happen on a yearly basis and have for some time. While there are people that buy new sets every year, most are fine going 5-10 years or longer before upgrading.
Not to mention by introducing a new tech that pushes the cost of the old down. As more 3D capable sets penetrate the market, HDTV sets will drop in price. While you can argue you're missing out on the experience, that depends entirely on the quality of the sets, amount of 3D media available, a quantity that is completely unknown at this point, and the price.
I guess I just fail to see the problem here. 120Hz Tv's have been available for a while and I actually know a few people who own them. This is just continuing off that trend and adding another feature set.
09/02/09
The way Sony is doing is that they're slowly easing in the 3D tech. The PS3 already support it, there are already 120hz tvs out there. What they're doing it creating a point for owning these tvs. Not a major point, just for the sake of more 120hz tvs to be produced. Making them more available, making them more the industry standard.
That way, when owning a 3D-ready set becomes somewhat of a must-have they'll be easier and cheaper to get due to them being pushed out into the market right now.
So the next time you upgrade your TV the option is there, you'll now that it'll be the next "thing" in television, and it might be at an affordable price.
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j/k!
But seriously I
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My name is Trevor. I am a vampire and
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