Seriously? I thought this was some insane photoshop creation (similar to the next-gen Nintendo DS with the 9-odd flip-out screens). That thing is probably bigger than the entire surface of my desk.
If the headphones rate good in reviews then I will get those, even though they are kinda ugly.
The keyboard is a sure pass. I have the G11 and that is all I need. I should also point out that there is no way that mouse can be plugged into the keyboard USB since it has LED's. It would just require too much power along with the LCD and LED keyboard. My sidewinder won't work in the G11 usb slots.
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I feel you man. I have a $15 keyboard, $10 mouse, and a $20 headset and they all work fine. The only thing that seems like it'd be worth the extra cash is a mouse. Sometimes I find myself wishing I had a couple extra buttons at my fingertips in certain games. Still, what's the point of $200 keyboards and a $100 mouse when the generic versions work just as fine?
@Kanji08: @MDRL: It's really not the fact that it "works", it's the fact that it works, looks good and is WAY more functional to a gamer then just a plain jane keyboard. The macro selection is used for plenty of RTS and MMORPGS. A single button press can be used for very complicated moves. The LCD is there because they can. Showing data is very cool on the keyboard but i find i hard ever look at my keyboard anymore. So yes other then the LCD the keyboard is incredibly useful to MOST gamers.
Now the headphones... you get what you pay for. Logitech's sound quality has never actually blown me away but these are a lot more comfortable and higher quality then your 20$ "Walmart" headset. Shit, I'll never use any other mouse or keyboard after my MX Revolution and my Seitek II keyboard. I even have Yamaha bookshelfs hooked up to a Pioneer Elite receiver for my sound my on my rig. Trust me it makes all the difference in the world.
It's really all about getting what you pay for really. I find that the higher end stuff not only looks better but feels better and reacts faster. But that's my own personal 2 cents.
@Balance_In_Life: My Logitech MX Revolution cost about $30 from Woot, which, while a great deal, isn't too hard to match if you're patient. My headset is a Steelseries 5H V2. It was $65 with an external sound card. I play RTS games just fine without macro keys. I don't need to pay extra for a hardware advantage. The headset is the only thing in there that I would consider within the realm of reason.
Oh, I understand the supposed "benefits", they just don't seem to be that big of a deal. Why do I need to pay $200 for a handful of extra "macros" buttons, when I can already make macros for a game and bind them to any number of existing keys on a standard keyboard? Then you get into a mouse's dpi and response time on a keyboard. I understand it's technologically better, but rarely noticeable. Being an avid MMO, FPS, and RTS gamer, I understand how these benefits are *supposed* to work. I;m just saying that, as a hardcore gamer, the $10 hardware gets the job done just as effectively as the $200 stuff.
@Kanji08: Ohhh don't get me wrong, I'm not paying 200 bucks for a keyboard. However some of the other less expencive gaming keyboards out there are a ton better then just the standard affair.
@MDRL: Yeah every time i see that price of 30 bucks for my MX Revolution I die a little inside. I remember when this bad boy was 100 bucks. I bought mine a month or two after it came out. Wonderful mouse this little guy is though. And having a 3 year warranty from Logitech as saved me once already.
The mouse looks exactly like my G9 and has pretty much the exact same features. Not that that's a bad thing, I <} my G9. It gets a higher DPI setting, but i feel the G9 can already go higher than need be.
Keyboard looks pretty sweet and it's nice to see that they are finally using blue instead of the orangy-red their other keyboards use. But it's a little steep right now. G15 will suite me just fine.
Those headphones, on the other hand, they will be mine. Oh yes, they will be mine.
I'm not sure about the numbers, but I believe my roommate had a G15 with blue, and a fold-down LCD, whereas my G15 has orange keys and a stationary LCD.
I think it's just this particular generation of keyboard with this color LEDs.
Uh... Yeah. Y'know, there's nothing wrong with using a normal keyboard and mouse.
"The G-series product line is all about seeing how much weird crap, giving gamers superflous, engineered-to-wtf features developed as a result of smoking lots of pot with middle schoolers," said Ruben Mookerjee, Logitech's director of product marketing for gaming. "With each one of these new G-series products, gamers gain clunky peripherals; but most importantly, they can transform their gear into mech suits for their gameplay."
@stupid_mcgee: Just to correct your first statement, there is something wrong with using a normal mouse and keyboard...If you play games. It's the reason gaming mice and keyboards exist in the first place.
Take the mice first. Your bog-standard mouse is about 300-400dpi, for many games, this is too slow to compete with. I normally play my games at 550dpi but change it up to 600dpi for certain games with sluggish controls. Before I got my gaming mouse (G5) I wasn't all that great, I could rack up the kills but getting top of a scoreboard was a rare occurance. Since using a gaming mouse however, my performance has increased a lot and I can score myself top spot in around 7/10 rounds.
The reason gaming keyboards are so popular are for a number of reasons. The main reason is that they allow more button presses than a regular keyboard, very useful in gaming. Secondly, they have special mappable keys designed for macros which are extremely useful in RTS games and RPGs such as WoW. Another reason they are good for gaming is that they often have a better layout aimed at gamers which makes pressing the right buttons or configuring your controls a lot easier.
@Edge of Blade: [sarcasm]Really? I didn't know that [/sarcasm]
The fact of the matter is that higher DPI results in faster movement of the coursor in most cases, unless you're using a large screen, where the DPI is compenstating for the size. Considering 20"-24" monitors are becoming standard for PC gamers, 300dpi-400dpi would appear to be slow and sluggish as it takes more time to go from one side of the screen to the other.
@-MasterDex-: I do have a high DPI mouse, but that's mostly for Photoshop and Illustrator. I can understand the macros, but an LCD screen? On your keyboard? There's a point where it stops being functionally beneficial and become tacky, complicated crud that will probably wind up creating more problems and solving none.
@stupid_mcgee: Youve got a point there about the LCD screen. I never found a good use for it. I myself only have a 15 quid microsoft spill-resistent keyboard, I did have a G11 until I spilled a cup of tea over it, hence the spill-resistent keyboard, it does what it says on the tin but it can be annoying not having the macro buttons and extra simultaneous button presses.
Oh, so what you're saying is that there is nothing new or special at all about the keyboard or mouse (except for an arguably superfluous increase in DPI)? Great, sounds tempting.
@lilaliendog: Yes but we are going back in time for good reason. Wireless sucks. The response time can never match wired controllers and the pain of needing to charge the batteries/battery pack is too much aof a hassle, there's also the risk of the peripherals dying at a critical moment. Wireless is not the way you want to go, trust me, I know.
@El-Suave: I'm pretty pissed at wireless right now.
My wireless keyboard is spotty, not recognizing about one key press out of 20 on average. My last wireless mouse basically stopped functioning, i.e. it worked about 1 out of every 6 seconds. My current wireless mouse blips out about 2 seconds every minute.
@kronos51: batteries? It could also be interference from something else.
Wireless is a load of crap for keyboards, mice or headsets. My first PC was prebuilt and came with a wireless mouse and keyboard and they were just plain terrible for gaming. I can't count the amount of times the batteries would just die in the middle of a firefight.
@nospacesinmyname: Why would you want 10,000DPI? There's absolutely no reason whatsoever for it. Stop touting big numbers when you don't understand what they actually mean.
@Deadshot: Yeah, even 2000dpi is pointless for most things, I certainly wouldn't use 2000dpi to move around your character in an FPS, it would be way too senstive. The only time I really use 2000dpi is in games such as BF2/BF2142 where the 2000dpi gives the best control over the jets and gunships.
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The keyboard is a sure pass. I have the G11 and that is all I need. I should also point out that there is no way that mouse can be plugged into the keyboard USB since it has LED's. It would just require too much power along with the LCD and LED keyboard. My sidewinder won't work in the G11 usb slots.
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you mean 1.21 jigawatts. I watched way to much Back to the Future
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I feel you man. I have a $15 keyboard, $10 mouse, and a $20 headset and they all work fine. The only thing that seems like it'd be worth the extra cash is a mouse. Sometimes I find myself wishing I had a couple extra buttons at my fingertips in certain games. Still, what's the point of $200 keyboards and a $100 mouse when the generic versions work just as fine?
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Now the headphones... you get what you pay for. Logitech's sound quality has never actually blown me away but these are a lot more comfortable and higher quality then your 20$ "Walmart" headset. Shit, I'll never use any other mouse or keyboard after my MX Revolution and my Seitek II keyboard. I even have Yamaha bookshelfs hooked up to a Pioneer Elite receiver for my sound my on my rig. Trust me it makes all the difference in the world.
It's really all about getting what you pay for really. I find that the higher end stuff not only looks better but feels better and reacts faster. But that's my own personal 2 cents.
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Oh, I understand the supposed "benefits", they just don't seem to be that big of a deal. Why do I need to pay $200 for a handful of extra "macros" buttons, when I can already make macros for a game and bind them to any number of existing keys on a standard keyboard? Then you get into a mouse's dpi and response time on a keyboard. I understand it's technologically better, but rarely noticeable. Being an avid MMO, FPS, and RTS gamer, I understand how these benefits are *supposed* to work. I;m just saying that, as a hardcore gamer, the $10 hardware gets the job done just as effectively as the $200 stuff.
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55$ from Amazon - [www.amazon.com] - Logitech G11
50$ from Amazon - [www.amazon.com] - Saitek Eclipse 2
69$ from Amazon - [www.amazon.com] - Razer Lycosa
All backlit, all with programmable (sans the Saitek). These three are completely worth it for the dollar.
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Keyboard looks pretty sweet and it's nice to see that they are finally using blue instead of the orangy-red their other keyboards use. But it's a little steep right now. G15 will suite me just fine.
Those headphones, on the other hand, they will be mine. Oh yes, they will be mine.
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I'm not sure about the numbers, but I believe my roommate had a G15 with blue, and a fold-down LCD, whereas my G15 has orange keys and a stationary LCD.
I think it's just this particular generation of keyboard with this color LEDs.
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It could have been a G11 I suppose. He only mentioned it once, I think a few years back, so it may just have been my assumption.
But! At least you confirmed that they've used blue before.
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"I <} my G9"
I "acorn" my mouse, too.
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"The G-series product line is all about seeing how much weird crap, giving gamers superflous, engineered-to-wtf features developed as a result of smoking lots of pot with middle schoolers," said Ruben Mookerjee, Logitech's director of product marketing for gaming. "With each one of these new G-series products, gamers gain clunky peripherals; but most importantly, they can transform their gear into mech suits for their gameplay."
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Take the mice first. Your bog-standard mouse is about 300-400dpi, for many games, this is too slow to compete with. I normally play my games at 550dpi but change it up to 600dpi for certain games with sluggish controls. Before I got my gaming mouse (G5) I wasn't all that great, I could rack up the kills but getting top of a scoreboard was a rare occurance. Since using a gaming mouse however, my performance has increased a lot and I can score myself top spot in around 7/10 rounds.
The reason gaming keyboards are so popular are for a number of reasons. The main reason is that they allow more button presses than a regular keyboard, very useful in gaming. Secondly, they have special mappable keys designed for macros which are extremely useful in RTS games and RPGs such as WoW. Another reason they are good for gaming is that they often have a better layout aimed at gamers which makes pressing the right buttons or configuring your controls a lot easier.
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Oh really?
DPI is not a speed measurement.
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The fact of the matter is that higher DPI results in faster movement of the coursor in most cases, unless you're using a large screen, where the DPI is compenstating for the size. Considering 20"-24" monitors are becoming standard for PC gamers, 300dpi-400dpi would appear to be slow and sluggish as it takes more time to go from one side of the screen to the other.
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*rolling eyes for effect*
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What's special about any keyboard?
The only thing you can do is pretty it up unless you're going to get crazy like the optimus maximus keyboard.
And superfluous to you = necessary to someone else.
Food for thought, chew on it.
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My wireless keyboard is spotty, not recognizing about one key press out of 20 on average. My last wireless mouse basically stopped functioning, i.e. it worked about 1 out of every 6 seconds. My current wireless mouse blips out about 2 seconds every minute.
What the hell?
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Wireless is a load of crap for keyboards, mice or headsets. My first PC was prebuilt and came with a wireless mouse and keyboard and they were just plain terrible for gaming. I can't count the amount of times the batteries would just die in the middle of a firefight.
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Yes please.
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No taste...just no taste.