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thecrisisfromthesky
07/30/09

In reply to Your 360 Needs HDMI for Avatar's 3D Effects
And of course this is all going on the hope that Avatar is actually going to be a good game right? What a load of hype for something we don't really know anything about!
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SansSanity
07/30/09

@thecrisisfromthesky: Will it also have achievements that you can complete in the game's intro?
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wisebug
07/29/09

In reply to Your 360 Needs HDMI for Avatar's 3D Effects
For all of you wondering is your tv support 3D, well it doesn't :) people that have them know it :)
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SansSanity
07/30/09

@wisebug: For all of you wondering does your TV support 3D, well it doesn't; People that can afford them know it

/fixed
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ReconToaster misses garnett :(
07/29/09

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I don't quite understand what this article is about...

Are you just saying that you have to have HDMI to run the game in 3D? I don't think anybody on here will really be affected...
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MrBionic
07/29/09

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I have HDMI, but my TV only does 1080i. CURSE YOU... someone!

*edit: Man, I'm really behind the times on this one. I had no idea that there was even such a THING as a 3D enabled TV.
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deanbmmv
07/29/09

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So any news on the Ps3 version? obviously they all have HDMI, and upto now the only console been shown to actually do 3D....
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One Man Freak Show
07/29/09

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How lame. I have a very nice 55" widescreen TV that came with my house, and it lacks an HDMI port. Guess I won't be buying your game, then, James Cameron.
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slimky
07/29/09

@One Man Freak Show: A 55" widescreen TV without HDMI !?! Draw me surprised on this one :o
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i like me-speaking for the dead
07/30/09

@slimky: I have a 65" widescreen with no HDMI and only one componant output O_O
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QualityJeverage
07/29/09

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Note guys that the 3D also requires a "3D-Enabled HDTV", which you most likely don't have. So don't get too upset.
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supo
07/29/09

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VGA does 1080p as well, all 360's will work with VGA, and you can buy the cable here: http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=108&cp_id=10830&cs_id=1083005&p_id=4010&seq=1&format=2

$6.45 USD

But I think the concern here is not whether its 1080p capable but rather it has the bandwidth to support stereoscopic 3D. I see no reason why VGA wouldn't support it.
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(Zombie) The Forgetful Brain
07/29/09

@supo: VGA does 1080p as well? I have one of those - used it to plug it into my monitor. Someone was saying the quality is shittier than the component though. Thoughts?

And you know, if my little VGA cable does do 1080p, I suddenly feel so much less bad about not having HDMI on my old first-generation-sounds-like-it's-going-...360 console.

What is the resolution I choose for that, do you know? Never could figure that one out...
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supo
07/29/09

@The Forgetful Brain: Well, at one point it was washed out, but there was an update long ago that added a setting to correct it. Also, the reason it looked like that to begin with was most likely MS cheaping out on some of the hardware.

At one time the 360 didn't support 1080p at all, but another update fixed that, and that restriction was completely artificial.

The usual resolutions would probably be 1366x768 (seems to be the typical native resolution for 720 LCD HDTVs, but otherwise it might be 1280x720, or 1024x768 if you use a projector or a "720p" plasma TV. I say "720p" in quotes because a lot of plasma tvs are actually 1024x768, and the pixels are rectangular to give the illusion of the 16:9 aspect ratio.. big ripoff IMO.
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(Zombie) The Forgetful Brain
07/29/09

@supo: Thank you - I really appreciate this. I've been scratching my head over this for ages.
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supo
07/29/09

@The Forgetful Brain: Anytime :)
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BarfHappy
07/30/09

@supo:

The TV has to respond "OK i displayed the frame, switch the glasses eye" through an HDMI signal.
If the TV and console are not perfectly synched your brain will have a rough time

I doubt the guys at MS will want to use the VESA data transport to do the same thing, they ll just concentrate at HDMI.

Just giving my 2cents of pure speculation
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thatcreepyguy
07/30/09

@supo:

I think the resolution 16:9 720p LCDs is actually 1366x768. You are correct about 720p Plasmas.
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supo
07/30/09

@thatcreepyguy: Yeah I mentioned that 1366x768 is usually the native res of 720p LCD tvs.
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supo
07/30/09

@BarfHappy: I believe that all it needs to do is draw at 120hz, which VGA can handle.
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Orionsaint
07/29/09

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I have a 360 without an HDMI port. I also have a 1080p HDTV set. I'm using component cables and have the 360 enabled to 1080p display and my TV even says 1080p display when the 360 comes on. So I'm running 1080p without HDMI. So why wouldn't this 3D Avatar thingie work for me?
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IvanDashSmith
07/29/09

@Orionsaint: There is probably some purely digital information being sent over.
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deanbmmv
07/29/09

@Orionsaint: Component doesn't do 1080p....
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Contra666
07/29/09

@deanbmmv:

Component DOES do 1080p.

VGA, Component and HDMI all support 1080p (as long as your console has been updated since the end of 2006).
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deanbmmv
07/29/09

@Contra666: I was always under the impression that Component lacked the bandwidth to do 1080p. but apparently thats not the case. Either way component is an anolog signal, which is why it can't do 3D. HDMI spec has a few bells and whistles that lets it do 3D. still need a 120hz TV though.
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Orionsaint
07/30/09

@deanbmmv:

I have 1080p through component. My TV is even telling me it's 1080p. I also have my PC connected to my TV and that's DVI to HDMI and that's also 1080p
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Boom-Chicka-Ah: Here to Create a Star Commenter Empire
07/29/09

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i have the wii and i am not getting this game for it
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07/29/09

@Boom-Chicka-Ah-Here to Create a Star Commenter...: the movie would be so worth it though
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ToastyUterus
07/29/09

In reply to Your 360 Needs HDMI for Avatar's 3D Effects
ok, i was wondering what this was all reallly refering too but i forgot the origiinal xbox's didnt have hdmi slots.go to walmart, buy new xbox, return old xbox in its place bam, insta hdmi slot, and i do realize the consoles have the console ID code that walmart keeps track of, but im sure all you incredibly smart people can find a workaround
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tsbaron
07/29/09

@ToastyUterus:
That's called retail fraud, and it's a crime that nobody would want to be arrested for.
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Hey_Blinkon
07/29/09

@ToastyUterus: Yeah, Bad idea dude.
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denki
07/29/09

In reply to Your 360 Needs HDMI for Avatar's 3D Effects
Seeing as how "3D" games are, 99.999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% of the time 3D graphics rendered on a 2D plane in such a manner as to give the illusion of depth, I guess if you don't have a HDMI cable you'll just be playing a 2D game? So then, will it be a side-scroller? Or a top-down RPG?

Industry = Dickheads
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IvanDashSmith
07/29/09

In reply to Your 360 Needs HDMI for Avatar's 3D Effects
If Microsoft would allow me to buy a HDD transfer cable all by itself, I would buy a new 360 with HDMI and transfer my data over to a bigger hard drive.
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EnigmaNemesis
07/29/09

@IvanDashSmith:

If you buy a new 360 with HDMI, you just need to call or fax MSFT and they will send you one in the mail for free.
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Sylar will take the power from Crecente's hair
07/29/09

@EnigmaNemesis: Yeah if you buy the elite you go onto xbox.com and fill out a form for a free data transfer kit.

Although anyone who buys the 60gb hdd is still S.O.L.
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adgeman
07/29/09

@EnigmaNemesis: They're charging for them now. I just had another 360 bust on me so I bought an Elite. When I called MSFT they asked how I would like to pay. I expressed my displeasure that I was having to pay to be able to transfer content from a machine that was bust to a new one and they suddenly decided I didn't need to pay.
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Abel
07/29/09

@Sylar will take the power from Crecente's hair: That is not true anymore (I do know it was at one point), the data transfer kit supports the 60GB now. I got one cheap when Circuit City was closing and transfered to it from my 20GB using the kit MS sent me. I did not have to pay for this kit at the time, but this was 3-4 months ago now?
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SuprShin
07/29/09

@IvanDashSmith: If you buy the stand alone 120gb HDD it comes with one either that or Ebay!
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IvanDashSmith
07/30/09

@SuprShin: Well I know that, but why would I buy an HDMI supported 360 console AND a stand alone HDD?
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Curse lily
07/29/09

In reply to Your 360 Needs HDMI for Avatar's 3D Effects
Well too bad i couldn't afford the "p" in the 1080p so i went with the "i" instead.
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(Zombie) Jölan
07/29/09

@Curse_Lily: well i guess you're p'ed off, huh?
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Boom-Chicka-Ah: Here to Create a Star Commenter Empire
07/29/09

@Curse_Lily: ugh i know i hate that
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Curse lily
07/29/09

@(Zombie) Jolan: Show off (¬_¬)
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Archaotic
07/29/09

In reply to Your 360 Needs HDMI for Avatar's 3D Effects
My 360's one of those crappy old ones with only component. The worst thing is, the last time my 360 RROD'd was AFTER they started replacing the systems with HDMI consoles.

...yeah, they didn't switch mine out. Jerks. :[
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yeah write
07/29/09

@Archaotic: Yeah, they didn't replace my second one with an HDMI console. I just sent back my third RROD (I know, I'm cursed), so maybe third time is a charm and I'll get an HDMI console with a quieter Jasper chip...

A guy can dream.
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Archaotic
07/29/09

@yeah write: When this one goes, I'm going to tell them they either replace it with an HDMI-compatible console or I won't buy games for the system anymore. I need HDMI, the TV I have (now that I'm not living with the roommate with the 42" plasma screen) doesn't allow for progressive scan input through component.
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liquid_kore
07/29/09

@Archaotic: Is the warranty expired? The xbox customer service employees don't seem to really know what they are talking about so its quite easy to fool them. Send it back claiming its broken and then hope you get an hdmi. ;)
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Archaotic
07/29/09

@liquid_kore: Warranty expires at the end of this year, I think.
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