Now we have to combine real PSP and go figures in our heads like we've had to do with DS. At least they didn't FURTHER split the DS into DSi, DSiLL, and DS light...
It makes me sad that the GO is doing so well... I think it's just technophiles... There's nothing really better about it. Quite the opposite. Price is worse, features are worse... I even keep my phat in my pocket, so the smaller size isn't really a benefit (well, maybe in Japan it is) #thejapanesehardwarechart
Clogs are not only stylish but they serve a necessary function in dutch culture... Ask any model if their shoes are for looks or comfort... also when you live underwater, you want all the floatation devices you can find...
barbed wire and salt diapers...interesting... if you dont mind, i will use this insult the next time i describe playing 9 holes of wii golf with 4 people who have never played before... #thejapanesehardwarechart
Hehe. I have no dog in this fight as far as winners and losers, but I really love it when 2 competitors are neck and neck. A blowout doesn't really help us, the gamer, no matter who wins. What helps us is when competitors are threatened by each other and are thus pushed to make their offerings more competitive and feature rich. If the PS3 is able to gain ground on the Wii in Japan, or the 360 in the states (I think the PSP/DS battle is too far gone to matter at this point), I think it will bode well for the gamers on all 3 platforms. #thejapanesehardwarechart
@subnet6: Indeed. I doubt either Live or PSN would be as good without the competition and I'm sure as soon as one side or the other has definitively 'won' then they'll be arrogant jackasses.
historic examples see.
Atari 2600/5600 era
Nintendo NES/SNES era
Playstation PS/PS2 era
Possibly Nintendo Wii era #thejapanesehardwarechart
And don't forget the Gameboy era. And yeah, I think we've seen this from Nintendo already this gen, which is why it's good for everyone if their competition gets a good surge now and then. #thejapanesehardwarechart
I really don't like these figures, not because I don't like the system/company but because I hate the business model it is trying to propagate.(download main titles) #pspgo
@MajorNewbie: In theory, yes. However, this is reality. Members of the games industry have gone on record bragging that they would raise the price of games even higher if they could. What makes you believe that they would bring the price down just because the game isn't a physical product anymore? They'll still command somewhere in the realm of $50-$60 per title and we, as consumers, would lose out. You can't resell, lend, or rent data files, after all. #pspgo
@MajorNewbie: Do you really think that once something finally becomes digital distribution only, and does not have to price match B&M middlemen that game prices will suddenly fall? I argue that is nothing more than wishful thinking. It MIGHT actually help the PC, since there is so much competition already, but it will be doom on closed platforms like consoles. DOOM. #pspgo
See this is why we need insane people. Cause they have their heads in the right place and know what's good and what's bad. And in this case Japan knows that physical media is good. All this DD future bull is coming from the west, where iPods and iPhones are somehow popular when in Japan they know what physical media means and how it will remain to live on until everyone says screw you. Its not that the Japanese market is dying. Oh no. Its just that the Japanese market knows how DD is going to be the demise of all media and the developers are afraid to cater to their logical sane opinion but are pussies enough to please the west. Oh wait. PSP Go not selling well? Its okay Japanese stupid DD way to go. #pspgo
@mitch_93: you physical media fetishists are really something else. How could you possibly prefer carrying around a bunch of disks and having to swap between them when it's not necessary or beneficial?
Nobody expects the Go to replace the other PSP SKUs, it's an alternative product for new customers. You are misinterpreting the data to fit your luddite bias. #pspgo
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One - I usually don't carry more than what's in the drive. I don't need to because I know what I want to play.
Two - I can sell/return/trade my games when I'm completely done with them and am sure I won't want to play them again.
An exclusive switch to downloadable media is an ultimatum, really. The companies think they're saying "This is how it's going to be." but the reality of it is "Do it the industry's way or pirate."
With discs, everyone benefits - the industry, the shops, the user. With exclusive digital distribution, the industry wins for a while, the less technically inclined lose out, and pirates win in the end. #pspgo
@Koztah: Your pretty rare, most of us don't know what we are going to play and it's nice to have our entire library with us. Also helps when we run into someone else with a psp too.
Digital downloads on handhelds is a good thing. #pspgo
@sereal: Digital downloads on handhelds is a good thing, but not to the exclusion of all else. Currently we have options - disc-based media, downloads, whatever suits our fancy. But if those choices were gone... that wouldn't be a good thing at all. #pspgo
@-MasterDex-: It's bad for a handheld device's launch day - adding those stipulations renders such a judgment meaningless, as those are some of the big reasons why it didn't do well.
ie, 'Apart from being poisonous, how is cyanide bad for you?' #pspgo
@Pombar: These are figures for one day. The DSi sold 170,779 units in it's first two days. Now, there's no arguing that's a good launch but that's the DSi, the clear leader of the market and considering the massively wide appeal of the handheld, it's not surprising.
The PSP on the other hand is not the market leader. It is, however, the first handheld to even come close to competing with Nintendo. it's also aimed at a different market.
adding those stipulations renders such a judgment meaningless
I don't see how. The PSP is not the DS. As I said, they have different target markets so their sales cannot be directly correlated with each other. In such a case, the reason behind the difference in sales must be considered. That said, you can see that the sales of the PSPGo are good, considering the facts.
Your mockery of my point at the end doesn't work either. Considering sales figures and making a judgement on how decent they are is not the same as determining how bad cyanide is for the body.
These launch day sales figures are probably pretty much in line with what Sony expected in Japan so in that respect, they're decent sales. #pspgo
@-MasterDex-: It wasn't an analogy - it was an example of how adding stipulations like that can remove all meaning from the judgment. You could argue the Gizmondo was a success if you added enough, for instance.
Comparing it to previous PSP launches might be more fruitful than this.
@-MasterDex-: It's a poor figure, by comparison. I'm not saying selling 28,000 PSP GOs is bad. I'm saying if you look at launch day figures of the previous models and ds models, it isn't that good.
Especially considering that this is Japan. If there's one country I'd bank on being ready for an all DLC system it would be Japan.
@NeoAkira: By comparison, it is a poor figure but that's my point, you can't directly compare and judge the sales of the PSP and DS since their target markets are different.
As I said, all things considered, the PSP Go did well on it's first day in Japan. Perhaps, any correlation in sales should be left until the day 1 DSiLL sales figures are announced since they can be compared better. #pspgo
This is true. Once the DSiLL figures come out we'll be able to tell whether it was just the market that lead to the PSP GO's figures or whether it was the system itself. #pspgo
I think in Japan, the Go concept is more liked than the UMD devices due to space and etc....even though you can do the same on the regular PSP's too. #pspgo
@djricekcn: I dunno about that. I've got the sense that most Japanese developers aren't too keen on the digital marketplace going from the number of Japanese games on PSN and XBL. It feels like the bulk of the companies there in still in that testing the waters phase for some reason. #pspgo
@Archaotic: Not always the case that the DS wins. It may not be months on end but there have been periods in recent that Sony's handheld topped the market. Launch days numbers though DS LL will win. #pspgo
Should just combine all the DS's into one in my opinion. Aside from like what is it one or two exceptions they all play the same games. #thejapanesehardwarechart
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It makes me sad that the GO is doing so well... I think it's just technophiles... There's nothing really better about it. Quite the opposite. Price is worse, features are worse... I even keep my phat in my pocket, so the smaller size isn't really a benefit (well, maybe in Japan it is) #thejapanesehardwarechart
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Stubbern clog-wearing assholes. #thejapanesehardwarechart
11/06/09
Let's see..
Clog-wearing tulip-fucking windmill operators?
Kiddin'. Nothing wrong with the dutch, but I think more effort needs to be put into insults. #thejapanesehardwarechart
11/06/09
You obviously don't know any dutch! Buncha balding idiots...
[/half-joke] #thejapanesehardwarechart
11/06/09
Nevertheless, I shall make it my duty to make my next insult worthwile.
I bid you, good day. #thejapanesehardwarechart
11/06/09
*kicks spray-it-on-hair canister under desk*
*whistles*
*trips on clog*
Fuuuuuu.. who makes wooden shoes anyway.. it's retarded.. Where's the comfort... it's like barbed-wire & salt diapers..
MADNESS!!
Silly dutch.. #thejapanesehardwarechart
11/06/09
only jerk dutchmen and dwarfs whistle anymore...
Clogs are not only stylish but they serve a necessary function in dutch culture... Ask any model if their shoes are for looks or comfort... also when you live underwater, you want all the floatation devices you can find...
barbed wire and salt diapers...interesting... if you dont mind, i will use this insult the next time i describe playing 9 holes of wii golf with 4 people who have never played before... #thejapanesehardwarechart
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Having a price drop and games does wonders for a platform.
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Hehe. I have no dog in this fight as far as winners and losers, but I really love it when 2 competitors are neck and neck. A blowout doesn't really help us, the gamer, no matter who wins. What helps us is when competitors are threatened by each other and are thus pushed to make their offerings more competitive and feature rich. If the PS3 is able to gain ground on the Wii in Japan, or the 360 in the states (I think the PSP/DS battle is too far gone to matter at this point), I think it will bode well for the gamers on all 3 platforms. #thejapanesehardwarechart
11/06/09
historic examples see.
Atari 2600/5600 era
Nintendo NES/SNES era
Playstation PS/PS2 era
Possibly Nintendo Wii era #thejapanesehardwarechart
11/06/09
I lack the words to describe that guy. Haha #thejapanesehardwarechart
11/06/09
And don't forget the Gameboy era. And yeah, I think we've seen this from Nintendo already this gen, which is why it's good for everyone if their competition gets a good surge now and then. #thejapanesehardwarechart
11/02/09
no sir, i don't like it. #pspgo
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The death of physical media is the first step towards much cheaper gaming for all. #pspgo
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...You can't? Since when? #pspgo
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Nobody expects the Go to replace the other PSP SKUs, it's an alternative product for new customers. You are misinterpreting the data to fit your luddite bias. #pspgo
11/02/09
One - I usually don't carry more than what's in the drive. I don't need to because I know what I want to play.
Two - I can sell/return/trade my games when I'm completely done with them and am sure I won't want to play them again.
An exclusive switch to downloadable media is an ultimatum, really. The companies think they're saying "This is how it's going to be." but the reality of it is "Do it the industry's way or pirate."
With discs, everyone benefits - the industry, the shops, the user. With exclusive digital distribution, the industry wins for a while, the less technically inclined lose out, and pirates win in the end. #pspgo
11/03/09
Digital downloads on handhelds is a good thing. #pspgo
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UK-GT, Three transfer games.
US-Semi upgradeable RockBand, more like a demo. #pspgo
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Anyone know how the PSPGo did in the States? I was looking out for a report on it but didn't see one.
11/02/09
It's kind of like when the PS3 came out at $600, and suddenly PS2s were flying off the shelves. #pspgo
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[www.1up.com] #pspgo
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These are horrible for launch day figures. #pspgo
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ie, 'Apart from being poisonous, how is cyanide bad for you?' #pspgo
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The PSP on the other hand is not the market leader. It is, however, the first handheld to even come close to competing with Nintendo. it's also aimed at a different market.
adding those stipulations renders such a judgment meaningless
I don't see how. The PSP is not the DS. As I said, they have different target markets so their sales cannot be directly correlated with each other. In such a case, the reason behind the difference in sales must be considered. That said, you can see that the sales of the PSPGo are good, considering the facts.
Your mockery of my point at the end doesn't work either. Considering sales figures and making a judgement on how decent they are is not the same as determining how bad cyanide is for the body.
These launch day sales figures are probably pretty much in line with what Sony expected in Japan so in that respect, they're decent sales. #pspgo
11/02/09
Comparing it to previous PSP launches might be more fruitful than this.
And no mockery intended! I wouldn't dare. #pspgo
11/02/09
Especially considering that this is Japan. If there's one country I'd bank on being ready for an all DLC system it would be Japan.
11/02/09
As I said, all things considered, the PSP Go did well on it's first day in Japan. Perhaps, any correlation in sales should be left until the day 1 DSiLL sales figures are announced since they can be compared better. #pspgo
11/03/09
This is true. Once the DSiLL figures come out we'll be able to tell whether it was just the market that lead to the PSP GO's figures or whether it was the system itself. #pspgo
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