@Rachel Fogg: Same here. I've avoided every article here, basically all the trailers. I'm on a complete XIII blackout until March! It can't come soon enough!
@Golgari: well compare the user base for PS3 with the mass of people who want FF13....i just estimate PS3 smaller than FF13, so it'll sell like crazy, for at least 2 weeks.
@ibunkun: you saw Wii Install base in Japan? Wii install base almost 3x larger then PS3 install base, thats almost 9 million!!! Install base and in its first week of Final Fantasy Wii game sold around 35000 copies while PSP version of piece of crap soccer sold like 85000.
how you expect big sales with Final Fantasy XIII in Japan if they have 3.5-5.9 million install base on PS3 not to mention that with Wii install base Final Fantasy Wii sold for 35000 copies in its first week. Makes no sense.
@dd528: Absolutely true, but does average-stupid-consumer recognize a difference? I don't think so. Yes, you are hardcore gamer and you know what the REAL Final Fantasy sequel is. but average cosumer don't care while he can buy Wii and play other game with franchise name of it like Final Fantasy.
So i think Final Fantasy will sell only preorder and who want it already preordered it.
@Golgari: i am not talking how good a game will sell, for what is FF game are a given...i mean, history shows that every FF game for sony selled like hot cakes. what i wanted to bring up was the cross selling effects of games. take Gundam for example , Gundam is the money making franchise (like hello kitty,neon genesis evangelion and cute girl anime/manga girls ) i think, you can sell everything with it. a gundam game sells also consoles,wether portable or home based (remember gundam musou and the PSP games). so if anyone without a PS system (2,3 or P/Go) wants it buys the machine. just to wanted it to transfer to FF13. a small PS3 user base means, that everyone who really wants FF13 will buy a PS3. i really cant comment on wii, though i know too they have a huge userbase. can't say why FF CC crystal bearers sold so little. maybe to less marketing or media presence? dont know the sales figures of the past titles for GC,DS either.
PSP Go sales in Japan:
Week 1: 29k
Week 2: 14k
Week 3 (now): 6.4k
Wow, what a massive drop in sales. Even if the Wii hasn't been as hot as it has been, it still averages about 25k a week, which I'd say is pretty good for a system over three years old, and with almost 9M in the region.
To be honest, I didn't think the PSP Go would do well... but I didn't forsee THIS huge of a drop in sales. At this rate, it's likely to drop below 360's sales next week...
@N●Gage Croal: That is Sony's fault entirely though, I really believe that the demand is there for digital downloads but Sony are just so unprepared for what that entails.
I was interested in getting a PSP Go since my PSP1000 is starting to show its age, but who in their right mind would want to rely on the PSN for games. I mean, I don't know what it's like in the US, but there still isn't any of the PSP MGS games on the European store and judging from that, who knows if Peacewalker will see a PSN release...
@Uhyve: I wonder how much of an investment they have in the PSPGo? When you think about it, it could have easily been a pretty cheap transitional product, and they may not have been expecting it to take over anyway, but rather to slowly get its place in the market and pick up steam once the PSN library improved.
But with that said, I'd definitely go with a 3000 instead if I were you. I'm totally satisfied with my 2000, and since it plays all the same games as the Go, I don't see the point of buying the system with a smaller selection. Might as go with the cheaper product that has a larger selection, right?
All this doesn't matter, if Sony cannot continue dominance worldwide. 360 will still get more exclusive games, simply because it's more commercially viable to develop for a console with larger userbase.
@rich8606: Exclusive games don't come about because the console has a larger base.. those exclusives come from Microsoft paying out the arse to get them, so they can pay twice as much talking about how they have the exclusive.
@rich8606: To be quite frank, I haven't seen many Xbox 360 exclusives in quite a while. When it comes to the exclusives, the PS3 has been dominating as of late.
@rich8606: Exclusives come from companies (i.e. Sony, Microsoft, Nintendo) funding the developer. Otherwise, no one would do it because they could make a profit on every system at this point. Each console has a large enough install base for a profit, now . . .
@rich8606: The vast bulk of (full-priced, retail) games now are multi-platform though. Enough that I think both consoles remain viable prospects on the basis of that fact alone.
That bodes well for Sony. They really made strides in the past 12 months thanks to games and slim/price cut. Nintendo isn't doing bad as well. New Super Mario Bros Wii is awesome.
I think it says a lot that even in Japan's seemingly over eager to adopt new revisions and the latest technology that the PSP Go has not overtaken regular old PSP as the DSi has done to the DS Lite. I want a Go bad, but this makes me wonder about how committed Sony will be to the platform should it continue to struggle, particularly in light of the "games don't need to be digital" comment.
I can also see why Nintendo is concerned seeing as Sony is taking over the pie, and it has precious little to reclaim its dominance with its weak software schedule and dubious peripheral hardware in line. I don't see anything in Nintendo's future that'll keep that Wii slice from shrinking by the week.
@Kobun: I was the same as you but I couldn't resist the temptation. Honestly though, I love the Go if for nothing more then its extreme portability. If you have money to burn its not the horrible purchase that everyone is trying to make it out to be.
@grantanamo: I keep hoping for some big Black Friday or through the end of the year discounts. I'd need it to come down to $150 to justify getting it. Too much fear over the longevity of the unit, its future, and possible announcement of a PSP Go 2000 within the next few months scare me off the current MSRP.
Then again, FF13 hits shelves two weeks after NSMB Wii. It's going to be interesting to see how one Nintendo game fares against both the West (MW2, AC2, L4D2) and the East (FF13).
@GohanGVO: The games are so different that I don't know if it's fair to compare their sales. For example, New Super Mario Bros. for the DS sold more than FFVII and FFVIII combined. Granted portable games often sell more and that's no indication the Wii one will sell that much but if it does I don't think it's a fair comparison, especially considering how many more Wiis are in homes.
@Zunnoab: True. I have no doubt that the sales curve of NSMB Wii will differ from traditionally front-loaded titles like MW2, and it will take longer than a few months to determine the true impact of NSMB Wii.
At the very least, though, I do think it will be interesting to see how a 2D console Mario game -- a title that most anyone on the planet can approach and play -- performs at retail.
Ugh. Right after I spent 1200 bucks on my tv they all started getting their prices slashed and the 120HZ models started getting cheaper and now they're going 3D. I could have paid hundreds less on a model that's BETTER than the one I have right now. God. Damn. It.
3D is one of those features that I'm not all that keen on bootstrapping to the existing generation, because it relies upon the user base to go out en masse and upgrade their TVs to take advantage of the tech.
You already have a disconnect between people who'll buy a console for one game and those who won't; people who'll buy a TV for one game? Count me out of that one.
I'd rather see 'em integrate the technology into the next generation, especially if they're serious about a ten-year lifecycle. If they aggressively propagate the 3D tech in the next five years or so, you might see a phenomenon similar to HD, where the adoption rate grew geometrically from the start of the generation to the midpoint.
Adding the capability to existing PS3's is really just going to wind up being a "Hey, cool, I guess it can do that...on a couple of games" gimmick, unless you focus on integrating 3D into popular games in the first place - God of War III, maybe MLB The Show, get some major third party support...but even then, it's far from a certain thing.
@jallen: @Ohverture: Agreed, after playing Avatar in 3D, the standard (2D?) version just seemed terrible.
I can see Gears of War being amazing in 3D!
It really does enhance the experience.
3D is the next big tech in TV's, so in about a year's time, you'll notice lots of new release TV's will all support it.
The next step after that is 3D without the need for glasses (they're working on it!), and probably THEN the next resolution bump.
But yeah it seems this time for sure 3D is going to make a big impact. Next year a stupid amount of movies will all be supporting 3D, and the first 3D channel, Sky 3D, just launched in the UK, so purchasing a 3D TV in the next year may not be such a bad purchase :)
Well, which, again, I'm not saying that having new TVs come out with that tech now is a bad thing.
Just that you're almost better off making it a centerpiece of your console strategy in the next generation. Avatar is no Wii Fit, in that it isn't going to sell oodles and boodles of copies with a contraption that you can then be pretty sure that a significant majority of console owners have access to.
It falls back into the classic peripheral trap with "hey, check out this really cool thing you can do...if you go spend hundreds of dollars! Or thousands!"
And outside of the early adopters/geeks, how many will do that?
A couple months ago, Eurogamer's Digital Foundry ran a very relevant article on how Sony has a very peculiar leg up on the competition in regards to 3d.
My own ten cents, 3d is pretty awesome. Mix it with head tracking and you've got the first steps to something grand. (too bad it can't get all Natal on it, though)
Well copying the Wii's motion control didn't sell more PS3's so maybe if we try another gimmick, that'll work! Now play GT5 in 3D, and watch all your friends blow chunks as they try to follow the action on the blurry, striped screen without the glasses.
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That's going to be one big ass dot...
Go PS3! Fly with Pegasus wings!
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Dude I'm telling you this now...avoid the internet for a while. Spoilers will await you.
I'm literally abandoning many gaming forums when XIII drops...I kinda have to.
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#speakup
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Be vigilant my friend...alot of us are going to have to scroll past, avoid videos etc when that game hits.
#speak up
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After Wii sales of Final Fantasy i don't think so that it will push the hardware.
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how you expect big sales with Final Fantasy XIII in Japan if they have 3.5-5.9 million install base on PS3 not to mention that with Wii install base Final Fantasy Wii sold for 35000 copies in its first week. Makes no sense.
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So i think Final Fantasy will sell only preorder and who want it already preordered it.
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Week 1: 29k
Week 2: 14k
Week 3 (now): 6.4k
Wow, what a massive drop in sales. Even if the Wii hasn't been as hot as it has been, it still averages about 25k a week, which I'd say is pretty good for a system over three years old, and with almost 9M in the region.
To be honest, I didn't think the PSP Go would do well... but I didn't forsee THIS huge of a drop in sales. At this rate, it's likely to drop below 360's sales next week...
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I was interested in getting a PSP Go since my PSP1000 is starting to show its age, but who in their right mind would want to rely on the PSN for games. I mean, I don't know what it's like in the US, but there still isn't any of the PSP MGS games on the European store and judging from that, who knows if Peacewalker will see a PSN release...
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But with that said, I'd definitely go with a 3000 instead if I were you. I'm totally satisfied with my 2000, and since it plays all the same games as the Go, I don't see the point of buying the system with a smaller selection. Might as go with the cheaper product that has a larger selection, right?
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Michael I demand that you rename the pie chart "She's my Cherry Pie" when FFXIII is released.
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#speakup
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I can also see why Nintendo is concerned seeing as Sony is taking over the pie, and it has precious little to reclaim its dominance with its weak software schedule and dubious peripheral hardware in line. I don't see anything in Nintendo's future that'll keep that Wii slice from shrinking by the week.
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#speakup
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Then again, FF13 hits shelves two weeks after NSMB Wii. It's going to be interesting to see how one Nintendo game fares against both the West (MW2, AC2, L4D2) and the East (FF13).
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At the very least, though, I do think it will be interesting to see how a 2D console Mario game -- a title that most anyone on the planet can approach and play -- performs at retail.
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You already have a disconnect between people who'll buy a console for one game and those who won't; people who'll buy a TV for one game? Count me out of that one.
I'd rather see 'em integrate the technology into the next generation, especially if they're serious about a ten-year lifecycle. If they aggressively propagate the 3D tech in the next five years or so, you might see a phenomenon similar to HD, where the adoption rate grew geometrically from the start of the generation to the midpoint.
Adding the capability to existing PS3's is really just going to wind up being a "Hey, cool, I guess it can do that...on a couple of games" gimmick, unless you focus on integrating 3D into popular games in the first place - God of War III, maybe MLB The Show, get some major third party support...but even then, it's far from a certain thing.
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I can see Gears of War being amazing in 3D!
It really does enhance the experience.
3D is the next big tech in TV's, so in about a year's time, you'll notice lots of new release TV's will all support it.
The next step after that is 3D without the need for glasses (they're working on it!), and probably THEN the next resolution bump.
But yeah it seems this time for sure 3D is going to make a big impact. Next year a stupid amount of movies will all be supporting 3D, and the first 3D channel, Sky 3D, just launched in the UK, so purchasing a 3D TV in the next year may not be such a bad purchase :)
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#speakup
Well, which, again, I'm not saying that having new TVs come out with that tech now is a bad thing.
Just that you're almost better off making it a centerpiece of your console strategy in the next generation. Avatar is no Wii Fit, in that it isn't going to sell oodles and boodles of copies with a contraption that you can then be pretty sure that a significant majority of console owners have access to.
It falls back into the classic peripheral trap with "hey, check out this really cool thing you can do...if you go spend hundreds of dollars! Or thousands!"
And outside of the early adopters/geeks, how many will do that?
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[www.eurogamer.net]
My own ten cents, 3d is pretty awesome. Mix it with head tracking and you've got the first steps to something grand. (too bad it can't get all Natal on it, though)
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"It's video games, man.... IN 3D!!"