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11/14/09
11/14/09
Plus the co-op modes adds up, gives the game a better perceived value. Honestly, if one had never played Halo 3 multiplayer, the value would be on par.
But I agree, it is funny how people see value. Myself, for instance, won't think twice about buying a game I think will be mediocre in retail if it's in the $15 range, I consider that a risk free purchase.
On XBLA, however, I carefully consider my purchases, especially if it's 1200 points. #halo3odst
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With XBLA/PSN, I expect the games to be more time wasters than anything, even though this is increasingly untrue. Also consider that on XBLA, $15 isn't actually $15, you're usually left with residue points, which is just extra money tied up.
It's a big gray area, this moving concept of what makes something 'worth' it. #halo3odst
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11/13/09
Also, others have already pointed out that MW2 is on three different platforms while ODST is exclusive to one.
Furthermore, three million sold copies is a solid number. Every GOTY contender this year aside from MW2 won't be sniffing that until the end of next year.
Yes, I'm a Halo fanboy. Wanna fight aboudit?
11/14/09
But I thought this game was a ripoff. It definitely should have been priced lower.
But hey, MS sold 3 million copies at a high price and they knew they could all along. Selling 5 million copies at $30 rather than $60 would have still brought in less revenue. #halo3odst
11/13/09
Sure, it's not Mario or Nintendo numbers but it's up there. #halo3odst
11/13/09
Not really fair to compare them yet. #halo3odst
11/13/09
I'm not saying MW2 doesn't deserve it or anything (believe me, I had the game 5 days before street date), but people act as if Halo's numbers aren't impressive to begin with.
I still yet have to buy the game <.< #halo3odst
11/13/09
It just got so big because instead of having a $1000 computer, parents could just buy their kids a $300 xbox to play, and that released the floodgates to what is ,by any gamer that has been around the block, a mediocre arcade style shooter.
IMO, Modern Warfare evolved it to the next level. Similar to how Counter-strike came out as a mod and had a different style than the arcadey shooters like Quake, silently caught on and still is one of the most played online shooters.
11/13/09
11/13/09
Halo 2 was definitely special. It paved for console multiplayer, whether you loved it or not.
Halo 3 may not have been gold, but it's perfectly polished silver. It's a blast to play with friends. And that's why it's so popular.
I agree, it is mediocre, but fun with friends. Something a lot of games lack.
Comparing console multiplayer to PC multiplayer is just wrong. It is universally known that PC is indefinitely superior multiplayer wise.
By the way, now you can get a decent gaming rig for $500-$600 ;o
Also, Counter Strike *greater than* all :D.
11/13/09
I'd argue that Counter-strike was the first mainstream FPS. If you went to any internet cafe/pc center you'd see at least half the computers running it.
Computers have definitely dropped a ton in price. I remember when my dad bought me a new computer for the family and it was a $2100 450 Mhz Pentium 3 IBM. For that much money you could get a sick set up going these days.
And I guess I agree with your point about the multiplayer since it allowed 4 player split screen, a rarity. #halo3odst
11/13/09
The funny thing about PC gaming is that its own fanbase is what's destroying it.
Anyway that's mighty impressive, I bought ODST today and I'm loving it. #halo3odst
11/13/09
Counter-Strike 1.0 was released in 2000 (after many betas that started in '99), Halo was released less than a year later. It took a while for consoles to catch up on online play, but Halo's LAN play was popular nonetheless. #halo3odst
11/13/09
I'm playing through MW2 right now and as far as it taking it to the "next level" is absurd. It does some things very, very well but I see no innovations.
Halo and MW are two very different shooters; many preference one over the other, but they are both extremely good games. Halo 3 was released two years ago and has a thriving community, as does MW.
11/13/09
CS was released as retail 3/1999. Halo was released 9/2001.
By mainstream i was referring to multiplayer. And at the time the console rival was Goldeneye. #halo3odst
11/13/09
Also, Halo's LAN play supported up to 16 players. #halo3odst
11/14/09
11/14/09
Better graphics perhaps since you know the 360's processing and video card are outdated. #halo3odst
11/14/09
I never compared the sales, I was just stating that Halo sold amazingly on one platform and people don't seem to realize that.
Note to Vonhert: Learn reading comprehension. #halo3odst
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11/14/09
You find me a console FPS with more support and consistent (note the consistent) playerbase than Team Fortress 2 and I'll get you a cookie.
Funny thing about console gamers: They think their shitty machine with crappy controls can really outperform a PC. #halo3odst
11/14/09
I'd be surprised if any sane person believes that. My 5 year old computer out performs my 360 at 1080p resolution. #halo3odst
11/13/09
Hey! Listen! #halo3odst
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11/06/09
Halo fan =/= someone obsessed with Halo
I know quite a few bros who like Halo. #halo3odst
11/06/09
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11/06/09
Shame on you kotaku. #halo3odst
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10/21/09
Wow, talk about meta-gaming. #halowaypoint
10/20/09
Yesterday it sounded like this thing was going to be a dashboard version of the Bungie website, plus more interactivity.
Now they are saying that they are not tracking stats in it?
Why the heck not?
This seemed like a much better idea when I thought they were wrapping all of the stats up and delivering them straight to the console. Now it is a lot more "meh". #halowaypoint
10/20/09
if it ain't broken, don't fix it right? #halowaypoint
10/20/09
Like I said earlier, I love the stat website that CoD, Battlefield, Halo, etc have. Halo's in particular is really fantastic (even though I don't play Halo at all). It just seems like something that always belonged in-game. Not something that forced me to move over to my PC to view. #halowaypoint
10/20/09
I just can't see anybody turning their system on and going "Boy, I wonder what new Halo news is on the Waypoint!", then boot that up instead of playing an actual game. That's what sites like Bungie.net and Kotaku are for. Ah well. Clearly it's not my cup of tea, but I just don't like being marketed to. #halowaypoint
10/20/09
10/20/09
I'm just not a fan of thinly-veiled advertising. #halowaypoint
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10/20/09
Also it's not something you get majorly excited in, it's just something to get involved in if you're already into the game. #halowaypoint
10/20/09
Maybe Reach will be more fitting of "full Halo title" status, but I have to think people will bore of ODST relatively quickly and move on to other games by early next year at the latest, if Money Whorefare 2 doesn't kill it off entirely. #halowaypoint
10/20/09
(Incidentally, gamers like Archaotic are probably the best thing in the world for the industry. Thoughts like his/hers keep pushing us to better ourselves as an industry." #halowaypoint
10/20/09
I wouldn't be surprised if FPS jumping idiots jump right to the newest FPS right away but still, halo has it's fans and will stay that way.
edit/ actually I partly take that remark back. Nothing wrong with being an FPS whore so long as you appreciate other stuff too.
10/20/09
Don't have the right Achievement for that Waypoint award? Feel free to buy Halo Wars, so you have the time to get all of 'em!
Most telling was that image with the "beyond the games" box, where they almost freely admit that they're advertising Halo toys. Jesus Christ, it's like Action Man and Max Steel- ploys to sell action figures. #halowaypoint
10/20/09
Good business means nothing if the overall quality of product continues its downslide, year after year, y'know? #halowaypoint
10/20/09
10/20/09
Games are a lot more expensive to make than a movie or a CD, after all. If the industry gets too corporate, new and fun ideas will die entirely. #halowaypoint
10/20/09
I always use the example of "double-pistols".
Back in the day, when I was still playing Golden Eye on the N64, all my friends told me the game was amazing because you could use double-pistols.
When I finally got the game I was amazed that no one had told me that the game itself was friggin' awesome.
It's sad. And scary. And often makes me want to work in the indy scene.
(But, of course, I've got bills to pay.) #halowaypoint
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10/20/09
Read: Do great things and you'll usually end up broke. #halowaypoint
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It's a lot harder, and a LOT more expensive, to make an indie game that can compete with the big boys. #halowaypoint
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If he does, it's certainly not Halo or anything Xbox-related... #halowaypoint
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I'm sorry if I unjustly portrayed you as a partisan! #halowaypoint
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10/30/09
It hasn't been "whipped together in less than a year". #halowaypoint