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BryanH
05/26/09

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Love you Del Toro, loved Pan's Laybrinth and Hellboy, and can't wait for the Hobbit.

But on this, you are wrong.
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Thorax
05/26/09

@BryanH: You have to make a logical statement before you can be accused of being wrong.

For instance, if I said that Bill Clinton was actually four dogs in a man suit, and you told me I was wrong, you would actually be feeding into my insane statement.
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Kyattsuai
05/26/09

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This could be true - my fondest gaming memories come from playing Resistance against a toddler in my spaceship while drinking a jar of beer.
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Chalkdust
05/26/09

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I don't see how anything he said really even involves the 360, or other consoles. Why do comparisons always have to be made? Oh, right.
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☆Giroro G66☆
05/26/09

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Did I mention that citizen Kane is a terrible movie?
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Thorax
05/26/09

@Giroro G66: The whole point is that Citizen Kane was the film that legitimized cinema as an art form. Whether or not it is as good as any of the work of the master film makers of today (Uwe Boll, Ben Stiller, Michael Bay) is relatively irrelevant.
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FarmboyinJapan
05/26/09

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Gaming's Citizen Kane -> Super Mario Bros.
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BurgerBat
05/26/09

@FarmboyinJapan: Exactly. A piece that came out relatively early in the medium's existence, that others used as a template or example of the things that are possible within the medium. I love Guillermo Del Toro, but he might be a little out of his element in this comparison.
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FarmboyinJapan
05/26/09

@BurgerBat:

Well spoken.

You could take it even futher, as David Sheff did in his 'Game Over' book, that we are all a bunch of Charles Foster Kanes.....and that on our deathbed, rather than utter the name of a sled, our last words will be 'Mario.'
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slim934
05/26/09

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Is that Henry Ford?

Is so.....damn.

Is it just me or (and this could just be the way he is standing) does he look like a total bad ass in the photo?

I'm not quite sure why that it....but he looks like a total bad ass. It seems that video game characters who are supposed to be bad asses are overly exaggerated to look that way. While if we look at Ford here, he just looks like one of those guys who could subtly snap your neck and then go smoke a cigar.

Does anyone else kinda pick up the subtle bad ass vibe form this pic?
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Thorax
05/26/09

@slim934: You must of skipped history class, because you would know that shortly after this picture was taken he attempted to amass an army of steampunk bipedal car-tanks.

He was thwarted before he could bring his plan to fruition, and one company even named themselves in his honor: General Motors.
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slim934
05/26/09

@Thorax:

Oh that was FORD who did that!

I always forget my early robotic conquest history.

Thank you thorax.
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Thorax
05/26/09

@slim934: ANY TIME
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MaxDragon7
05/26/09

@slim934: Don't forget that Henry Ford conceals blades near his wrists, similar to Altaïr's blades. Oh, and don't forget that Ford invented the Model T because he got tired of riding on Chuck Norris' back.

True story.
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Thorax
05/26/09

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I love Del Toro so much it's sickening, but what the hell is he even saying? Seriously, I'm lost.
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Emulated
05/26/09

@Thorax: it's an allegory, she is escaping to this imaginary world to escape the harsh reality forced upon her by her mother's marriage
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Thorax
05/26/09

@Emulated wants a star: OMG!
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sascha23
05/26/09

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You heard it here. Del Toro is a PS3 fanboy.

I love that man.
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FP_slomo788
05/26/09

@sascha23: I've been watching all of his movies lately.

Outshines most American directors to be honest, and he's not afraid to show what he wants to show.

I suggest Cronicas. Very disturbing, but so close to the reality.
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Pombar
05/26/09

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In this, the 101st year of our Ford...
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Koda89
05/26/09

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Hmm...interesting read.

Anyways, I'd love to see a Guillermo del Toro directed game. Just because I'd know the art style would be insane, if his movies are something to base it off of.
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MaxDragon7
05/26/09

@Koda89: I like how Del Toro is thinking. Throughout the article, Del Toro shows that he has his mind is set on the 'next-generation'.

While most developers/ thinkers would focus on current and progressive development, and a succession of hardware, he predicts that gaming would take over as the ultimate media source. I had predicted this as well, thinking that gaming would replace motion pictures and digital entertainment.

Guillermo Del Toro is an excellent film producer. I would really be interested if his works were displayed onto a game.
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dxgirly
05/26/09

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I don't think del Toro has ever played an RPG. :\
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zombiefrank82
05/26/09

@dxgirly: That is a doubole edge sword. Some RPG's are great but the majority are pretty mediocre and cliche, come on we all have grown way too accustomed to the amnesiac warrior who has to save the world, kingdom, galaxy, etc. Just swap some plot points and you pretty much have the modern rpg. Also, do not get me started on JRPGs, they have not done much for gaming other than regression yet so many people swear there is something amazing about them. Too each his own but just becaus FFVII killed off a main character, it does not make for an intersting and groundbreaking story, it is just using, at most, basic storytelling machinations to provide "depth".
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Kobun
05/26/09

@zombiefrank82: People have such limited knowledge of games as well, moreso than they often seem to realize. I cringe a bit when I see people referencing stuff like FFVII's death scene as though it was the first time such a thing happened in a game. Likewise, I do believe video games do have the capacity to approach the level of depth found in other media, but, sorry, your beloved SNES RPGs ain't it.
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bobtheduck in Korea
05/27/09

@zombiefrank82: I've been playing Eternal Sonata lately, and I wonder how people could call that cliche, except that it uses the same style as all the tales games visually (maybe a bit more pastel)

Storywise... I can't think of anything. It's Frederic Freaking Chopin! A world that (maybe) exists in his dream, he's aware of it, and he's just going along for the ride... I'm not seeing the cliché in this one.
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Mucudadada
05/26/09

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As a USC Film student I believe the most cinematic games to be:

1. MGS4

2. Indigo Prophecy

3. Flower

Let me clear up what I mean by "cinematic." Basically, I mean games that are on par with Oscar winning films. It's true that movies and games are different mediums, but those three games and others have the amazing ability to make me "feel" while also being entertained. That combination is, in my opinion, what art is all about. As video games mature (it is still a relatively new medium, after all) they will go this direction. Sure, you will have your blockbusters (Gears) and generally crappy games, but high caliber, these cinematic games I'm speaking of, will be recognized on and Oscar-esque level.

Personally, I can't wait for this to happen. I try to look for movies that will make me think and most of the time that does not take very long. Finding a video game to do that right now is hard. So, bring on the future! (AKA Heavy Rain :P)

Just my 2 cents...
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DigitalHero
05/26/09

@Mucudadada:

Heavy Rain is looking awesome indeed. That makes me optimistic about the future of gaming. I enjoyed the videos so much I put HD versions on my PS3 so I can watch them anytime.
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deathxrebirth
05/26/09

@Mucudadada:

I like your list. I would personally add Braid myself. I used to have it on 360 and just loved it. I had to give it up after my 360 died. I hadn't played it since, until the Mac demo came out the other day. I really can't describe it... but from the moment I started it up, I got this overwhelming feeling. So many different emotions from Nostalgia to peacefulness and more.
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uchennaokafor
05/26/09

@Mucudadada: Your post is great, all except for MGS4. I ask you sir, why? The story is epic yes but the dialogue is so poor its shocking. I thought dialogue played a big part in oscar winners. To be able to "feel" you have to b able to connect. This may be either through visual interpretation or on the words spoken by the characters. MGS4, while one of the best games of all time, succeeds in neither of these.
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Mucudadada
05/26/09

@uchennaokafor: It's because of the characters really. Kojima did a fantastic job of making you care about Snake. When he was going through he oven, I really hurt with him. And when he had the gun in his mouth, I cried. The same thing can be said for MGS3 really. So, I guess to answer your question, I put it on the list because I personally connect with Snake.
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Kobun
05/26/09

@Mucudadada: Yet those sequences are hardly interactive. You really might as well be watching a movie at that point. I'm not doing the "LOL MGS ALL MOVIES" troll or anything, but when the memorable/worthwhile moments of a video game come from spooled cutscenes and/or scenes with severely limited input, is it really the game being lifted up to cinema's heights or rather it retreating to the media form which best connects to the receiver? Personally, I'd put MGS with the latter. I myself would sooner replace it and Flower on your list in favor of Shadow of the Colossus, which is arguably the best known example of "cinema worthy" game which maintains its narrative through both its cutscenes and gameplay.
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okenny :) ...building bridges (to hide under)
05/26/09

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Sounds like a gut reaction to me :| He probably played a little GTA4 and had an Epiphany that led to what I call a really weak analogy. Yes, the new generation consoles are convergence devices but the idea of convergence started a while back. Consoles aren't ushering in this "new age" of convergence any more then the Media Center PC did half a decade ago.
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Mister_Bump
05/26/09

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"But we're using it just to shoot people and run over old ladies. We could be doing so much more."

Yeah, because GTA4 didn't have a better written story than that pile of piss you passed off as a Hellboy sequel, did it? Oh wait....
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Thorax
05/26/09

@Mister_Bump: I've yet to play anything as beautiful as Pan's Labyrinth.
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DukeOfPwn
05/26/09

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He's spot-on, except for the fact that GTA IV went a little bit deeper than that, and if he really paid attention to that one, he would realize just how sophisticated stories in games can be.
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deathxrebirth
05/26/09

@DukeOfPwn:

I like your list. I would personally add Braid myself. I used to have it on 360 and just loved it. I had to give it up after my 360 died. I hadn't played it since, until the Mac demo came out the other day. I really can't describe it... but from the moment I started it up, I got this overwhelming feeling. So many different emotions from Nostalgia to peacefulness and more.
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