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01:43 AM
12/09/09
The problem is that GTA became a big success after GTA3, when it went to 3D. Most people started playing GTA there, and a lot never played the first 2 games. A top down view game is not what most people expect when they think of a GTA game.
Now, the game is great and making it top-down was the only way for it to work on the DS. And I praise Rockstar for going that way. But marketing-wise, it was a bad decision.
12/09/09
It's like every sentence she says is a stab wound in my gaming soul. She's lying through her teeth and she doesn't even realize it herself. Sorry Nintendo, you're fun but you're not core anymore.
Oh yeah and, hilariously, the game DID get extra marketing when it came out for the PSP, and it still failed. That's a double fail for ya Cammie. :(
12/09/09
I had a blast playing it, as did a number of people (evidenced by this thread). Take into account its metacritic score (the highest rated DS game, currently) and I think you'll find you're in the minority.
No, the reasons it sold poorly have nothing to do with it being "unfun," but more that people have come to expect a certain something from GTA and Chinatown Wars offered something a little different.
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Is it REALLY bad marketing? Or is it that the game is just a niche title not destined for big sales? After all, the PSP version didn't do too well either as far as I know.
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The number of people who would be old enough and interested enough to buy a GTA game on a handheld pales in comparison to the console market. I think the game didn't sell because the audience for it on that platform is small.
12/09/09
@GohanGVO: Are you sure? I kind of remember a trailer thing going. Then again, you may be right. My memory of that E3 isn't that great.
@spiderweb1986: Yeah, I thought about that too. I don't see very many GTA fans owning a DS.
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She's absolutely right, throwing up ads short term, just doesn't work anymore.
We're talking about a new generation of gamers that get only a third of their information from television.
There are various community outlets that need to be catered too, not the least of which is the internet.
*sigh*
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Then again I'm the sort of gamer who never bought a game based on an advertisement unless the advertisement was alerting me that the game was finally released in my region.
12/09/09
She's saying Rockstar should still be advertising GTA:CW for DS right now.
12/09/09
Yah, I totally get that.
My comment was based on the marketing strategies of companies in general, rather than this specific case.
In regards to Cammie's statement:
Personally, I'm a fan of long-tail marketing.
Considering today's economy, it's smarter to market yourself incrementally and virally, as opposed to the traditional method, which involves lots of exposure over a relatively shorter period.
As the words, "I'll wait till my friends buy it" and "I'll wait for the reviews" become more commonplace, it's smart to still have a marketing presence, long after your product has shipped.
At least, that's my opinion.
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#speakup
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#speakup
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Literally translated it would mean hitting airplane. It is slang for masturbation.
(Pok)(Gai)
Go die in a street. Well something like that.
There's some more words you can learn. My mom isn't so happy about me knowing how to insult people in Cantonese but not able to hold a proper conversation.
11/25/09
Might be useful to add:
(Gan)/(Tiu) nei lo mo
Rape/Fuck your mother.
(Ham)(Ka)(Chan)
Damn your entire family.
I actually taught my roommate and a Korean friend those.
11/25/09
Would be a shame to go to Beijing, say that and get blank stares instead of a punch in the throat.
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Or something
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BTW, that's a nice looking cookie.
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