The problem is that I don't see Natal or SUMC (Sony Unnamed Motion Control) be less than $150 each. That would bring the PS3 price to $450 and Xbox 360 price to $350-$450 compared to Wii's $199 (you know it's happening). I don't see casuals to embrace the HD consoles' motion controls at those prices.
@gencid: I doubt the SUMC will cost a great deal either. We already know it uses the Playstation Eye which you can pick up for £25, so with a waggle controller and the equivalent software package of wii sport. We are probably looking at the price of a game.
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Sony's will release before Natal, Natal will be cheaper.
Both have me hyped up.
My question is, will we need a new dev kit for Natal or will it work with the equipment and xna?
@xmywreckingballx: Is this sarcasm or not? I haven't played the Table Tennis yet. I know the swordsplay game is not as good as I thought. I still do powerful slashes with just a flick of the wrist.
@TheWP listens to Yukkuris; Takes it easy: WSR Table Tennis is fun, but like the sword play, it's not too much like the real thing. This is mostly because it's can't sense where your body is. Hence, if you change the angle of the sword just using your wrist, it rotates around the Wii's body: angle is all that really matters.
It's the same for table tennis. In real ping pong, you can do a straight forehand swing that will hit the ball at the same angle throughout the entire swing (same as in real tennis), but in WSR, you have to swing earlier to hit left, middle to hit straight, and late to hit right with a forehand. It's not at all intuitive for real ping pong players. My mom tried it out, and though she could probably destroy me in any ping pong setting IRL, she had no idea how to get the ball to do what she wanted in game despite constant explanations.
If a Wii tennis game or fencing game (or other motion controls) could get the positioning down so that you can swing it more like a real held object (eg taking into account arm and wrist being separate), it could be pretty fun and a lot more "natural" to play.
I was being very serious. I love the game. I like how the different angles through which you swing change the approach of the ball. Slash upward, and it curves. Slash downward, and it seems to suspend, float more in the air. It's a lot of fun... for me. None of my friends I played were into trying to manipulate the ball's trajectory. I am mostly a fan of playing racket ball in RL. So games like tennis and ping pong are fun for me to play as video games. Anyway, hope natal does well. There are different gaming concepts they can implement that a Wii/PS3 can't. But it goes both ways I think. The Wii and PS3 will have more capability in other areas of game development.
Meh, I could care less about next-gen Grand Slam Tennis. I love my 360, but I feel like the Wii has made the concept of tennis with a standard controller obsolete. If I were to get Grand Slam Tennis, it would be the Wii version.
@tok1879: Awww, muffin. Are you starting to feel left out because developers and publishers are starting to make games targeting where the money is? Poor baby. You might as well stop gaming right now.
@Ferkner: Combined, 360 and PS3 have about the same size install base as the Wii so its about the same number of gamers missing out on a new game, albeit one that isn't hotly anticipated.
And Wii fanboys can chime in how us with real video game consoles are getting what we deserve, but let's keep in mind EA isn't doing it for your sake either, but for a) money, and b) the casual gaming audience. So don't be fooled into thinking this is some good thing for you guys either. Unless you dislike hardcore titles on the Wii or any future format.
@NoHoldsBarred: I agree with your post specially "Unless you dislike hardcore titles on the Wii or any future format" part, till i read and i quote "And Wii fanboys can chime in how us with real video game consoles are getting what we deserve".
If you call a ps3 real game console, then you are avoiding the fact that even sony did merchandise the PS3 as PC competitor and a blue ray player, last and least as a game console, that issue and the fact that the ps3 do not support pirate games, put the ps3 in the last place of race, a place it will keep till the end of this gen.
At least nintendo knowns exactly what they are aiming at, the blue ocean filosofy.
And if nintendo is not a video game console, then the best sold driving game of this gen is not mario kart, the best sold sport game is not wii sport, the best sold platformer is not mario galaxy, it is true the wii is not a video game machine is a people choice machine unlike the PS3 PC-Blue ray player and video game at the last minute wanna be machine.
@Manu_otaku: Yeah PS3 I could see the argument for. Although as I said earlier, Wii Sports is not so much "sold" as you are "forced to buy it", especially in North America where all Wiis ship with it.
Mario Galaxy I'd have to give you, but what's the competition for it? Ratchet and Clank? Who even makes platformers anymore? lol.
It is still kinda more a toy than video game console. Barely in the same league of what is capable on the current gen consoles.
Ah the update makes me think they're waiting for the motion controllers to come out before releasing the game. This coincides with the delay of the previously unannounced EA Sports active for the PS3 and 360.
Strange choise of words then, "indefinetly". Should have gone with something like "delayed for a as of yet unknown amount of time". Or was this said on Twitter?
I wasn't even aware this was getting a PS3/360 version. I don't see the attraction without Motion Plus. I guess it would be a more casual tennis game, but IIRC, Top Spin and Virtua Tennis aren't terribly difficult and complicated games either.
I have a feeling they're doing a little extra thinking regarding whether or not to actually revive this when their done with their EA Sports Active expansion.
I'm still not getting this MotionPlus thing: why should I do the exact real tennis motions to play tennis in a room in front of a TV, instead of simply getting a racket and go playing real tennis on a real court?
That's no more videogames: wideogames are something I can play with lying on my couch.
@Hickok: It's not as simple as getting a racket. You also need access to a court and one to three other comparatively skilled people willing to play with you. Also, tennis is much harder than most think, and I suspect most people playing the game would not be able to properly serve let alone be able to run the court for a full set without collapsing in a pool of vomit.
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...man i suck at this game.
09/15/09
@kainzero: like that?
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Then again, when you consider that they charge $100 for a wireless adapter...
09/15/09
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Sony's will release before Natal, Natal will be cheaper.
Both have me hyped up.
My question is, will we need a new dev kit for Natal or will it work with the equipment and xna?
09/15/09
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I only kid, couldn't resist. 10,500 fine? She keeps that much in her little piggy bank.
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If Serena wasn't a money maker for Tennis and women tennis in general she would have been suspended without blinking.
09/15/09
Its laughable to criticize someone when you're enabling them to be paid millions of dollars for hitting a ball back and forth.
09/15/09
1) Fight Night: Full Motion (killer app for Natal)
2) Fencing - great for the controller
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More importantly, why haven't they jumped on the TNA license for normal pads?
09/15/09
I'm a fencer, and I would love that.
EPEE IS THE ONLY TRUE WEAPON!
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It's the same for table tennis. In real ping pong, you can do a straight forehand swing that will hit the ball at the same angle throughout the entire swing (same as in real tennis), but in WSR, you have to swing earlier to hit left, middle to hit straight, and late to hit right with a forehand. It's not at all intuitive for real ping pong players. My mom tried it out, and though she could probably destroy me in any ping pong setting IRL, she had no idea how to get the ball to do what she wanted in game despite constant explanations.
If a Wii tennis game or fencing game (or other motion controls) could get the positioning down so that you can swing it more like a real held object (eg taking into account arm and wrist being separate), it could be pretty fun and a lot more "natural" to play.
09/15/09
I was being very serious. I love the game. I like how the different angles through which you swing change the approach of the ball. Slash upward, and it curves. Slash downward, and it seems to suspend, float more in the air. It's a lot of fun... for me. None of my friends I played were into trying to manipulate the ball's trajectory. I am mostly a fan of playing racket ball in RL. So games like tennis and ping pong are fun for me to play as video games. Anyway, hope natal does well. There are different gaming concepts they can implement that a Wii/PS3 can't. But it goes both ways I think. The Wii and PS3 will have more capability in other areas of game development.
08/05/09
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And Wii fanboys can chime in how us with real video game consoles are getting what we deserve, but let's keep in mind EA isn't doing it for your sake either, but for a) money, and b) the casual gaming audience. So don't be fooled into thinking this is some good thing for you guys either. Unless you dislike hardcore titles on the Wii or any future format.
08/05/09
it's called the Wii.
it will have Muramasa on it.
you have FPS#43.
enjoy.
08/05/09
If you call a ps3 real game console, then you are avoiding the fact that even sony did merchandise the PS3 as PC competitor and a blue ray player, last and least as a game console, that issue and the fact that the ps3 do not support pirate games, put the ps3 in the last place of race, a place it will keep till the end of this gen.
At least nintendo knowns exactly what they are aiming at, the blue ocean filosofy.
And if nintendo is not a video game console, then the best sold driving game of this gen is not mario kart, the best sold sport game is not wii sport, the best sold platformer is not mario galaxy, it is true the wii is not a video game machine is a people choice machine unlike the PS3 PC-Blue ray player and video game at the last minute wanna be machine.
08/06/09
Mario Galaxy I'd have to give you, but what's the competition for it? Ratchet and Clank? Who even makes platformers anymore? lol.
It is still kinda more a toy than video game console. Barely in the same league of what is capable on the current gen consoles.
08/04/09
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I have a feeling they're doing a little extra thinking regarding whether or not to actually revive this when their done with their EA Sports Active expansion.
05/22/09
That's no more videogames: wideogames are something I can play with lying on my couch.
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05/22/09
Seriously though he's a great all around guy and he was right most of the time.
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05/22/09
Get the hell out of...Tatum O'Neal, how many Grand Sla..
Can I introduce you to Kratos? oh you've already met Chuck Norris then.
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