Oh man, I have a crazy story about one of these emergeBEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP
THIS IS A TEST OF THE EMERGENCY ALERT SYSTEM
BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP
THIS IS A TEST OF THE EMERGENCY ALERT SYSTEM
BEEEEEEEEEP BEEEEEEP
THIS IS A TEST OF THE EMERGENCY ALERT SYSTEM
BEEEP BEEEP BEEEEEEEEEP
THIS IS A TEST OF THE EMERGENCY ALERT SYSTEM
BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP
THIS IS A TEST OF THE EMERGENCY ALERT SYSTEM
BEEEEEEEEEP BEEEEEEP
THIS IS A TEST OF THE EMERGENCY ALERT SYSTEM
BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEPnd so that's how I ended up in a jacuzzi with nine naked supreme court justices and Tim Schafer's dog.
Can someone explain to me how you are going to see one of those messages if your TV is off? :P
Edit: I'd be really fucking pissed if I were in the middle of a match or game and it got interrupted so that they could test their new toy. If I hadn't read it here, I'd also be pretty freaked out for the first few moments, thinking it is a serious alarm. =/
@SacGamer: I don't really think he will care, and he'd probably rather not know that is about to be vaporized and that there is not a damned thing he can do about it. :P
*bing*
TORNADO WARNING
"Sweet! I got another achievement!"
*house is blown down* :p
Seriously though, this is a great idea... I guess you'd have to have your billing info on file so they know your location though, since guessing by IP address isn't always accurate?
My only issue with the emergency warnings is getting ones that mean nothing to me. Such as watching a station out of my city (in most cases out of my country even) because then it just becomes an annoyance.
I'm curious how they'd avoid sending this to the wrong people.
I'd be pissed, and I'm sure a few others would be, if i kept getting a tornado warning for somewhere outside of my own country.
Interestingly I was just thinking about this considering how little i watch of live television or especially radio (read: not at all).
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It would definitely be interesting to hear someone online receive an emergency warning and proceed to continue to play.
Player1: "Uh, dude... that sounds like an emergency broadcast..."
Player2: "No, it's... uh, you know... just a tornado. C'mon, let's win this match and-"
Player1: "No man! You have to quit!
Well, there is a reason the United States is slipping out of the top 10 in internet speeds... the same reason we slip out of the top 10 in anything, companies wanting to pass laws that keep the status quo and prevent innovation.
Thanks AT&T for still being the lumbering beast that had to be killed in the 80s.
@Tuor_of_Gondolin: the issue at hand is congress defining a standard for what is broadband. They are taking into account what is needed and will output an edict declaring "in the US to be called broadband a connection must be X upload and Y download". The providers are trying to provide evidence so the legal definition is much lower and they can keep providing crappy service relative to other countries and not spend bank actually renovating their networks.
Nothing is obfuscated, this is just the means to how the end is described.
@Tuor_of_Gondolin: Unfortunately, until we get a law passed that actually ensures network neutrality, these sorts of clarifications will be necessary. Otherwise, traffic on ports other than 80 will be treated like shit -- packets dropped at the first bit of congestion.
Don't fool yourself; if most telecoms could get away with only providing web browsing and nothing else, they'd do it in a heartbeat. The more a service actually uses bandwidth, the less they like it, and that extends directly to the people using it.
yeah and it would be AT&T that said this. hey arent they the EXACT SAME company that the government broke up as a monoply in the early 80's and have remerged back into AT&T (with the exception being Qwest out here in the Pacific Northwest?)? makes you wonder, hmmm?
way to go once again Bush administration for letting this bully back on the block.
but all of that being said basic email and websurfing overall are prolly more important to the general public than gaming but gaming should be right behind these "basics" as it still is (and will only get bigger) a major reason a LOT of people get high speed internet and a lot of people work in the gaming industry (like myself) and use it for work related functions, which just so happen to be gaming and testing.
That Kenneth L Doroshow had a great response and i feel the same way Greed is what is keeping America way behind the upload and download speeds in North Korea that are far superior at least 10 times faster than anything in America, America is greed... plain and simple and that is what is holding us back
@Kyle Horne: That, or the logistical issues in getting all of the required lines and repeaters out to hillbilly subsistence dwellers in the middle of nowhere. That's what this is about, getting non-dialup service to people who don't live in what anyone would consider to be a population center. If you're being sarcastic, my apologies.
@Anemone: Upgrading and installing a high capacity fiber optics network is more economical than maintaining the vast copper line networks. Kyle Horne is right its all about greed. American business is all about greed and nothing else.
@-itis: Let's back it up a bit. Why do they want to define broadband? I mean... there must be a reason for it. That's right. It's the national broadband plan. The thing that's allocating the money. [arstechnica.com] That silly thingie. I'll save you some time to get to the guts of what it's trying to do.
"The Commission must send to Congress its National Broadband Plan—a set of recommendations for making sure that everybody in the United States has access to broadband."
Here is the thing... your greedy, world destroying, puppy raping businesses already have access to broadband. It's not about how we will manage to get an STM-256x line installed in every walmart, but how to get serviceable internet on par with the rest of the world to people who aren't currently able to access the service. So, without dragging on, they're basically trying to figure out what's the lowest amount of service we can give some family living in a trailer in the Ozarks and still mange to say "we gave them broadband access."
Yes it is about greed in part since they are trying to do it as cheaply as possible, but that's not the point of what's going on. Seven Billion dollars may seem like a lot, but when it comes down to it that's a great deal of work in upgrading or replacing the infrastructure, and the US is a large country with exceptionally low population density throughout basically the middle 2/3 of the country. That $7bn isn't going to stretch very far once all is said and done if you're trying to lay an OC3 to every person in Montana.
I like games as much as the next Kotaku reader, but even I'll admit that AT&T has a point. C'mon people, its really hard to argue that games should be given the same attention as basic internet needs like e-mail and messaging and basic web use. Those things are far more important to the general public and to the economy than whether or not we can play Team Fortress online.
@jcb231: the flipside of this argument is equally true: e-mail, instant messaging, and basic web surfing are not activities that require broadband speed. it is disingenuous at best for AT&T to imply that such services are the hallmarks of actual broadband, when just ten years ago, we were all doing those things over 56k modem.
no, what the FCC really should be looking at is the US's competitiveness compared to other online nations. South Korea (ZERG RUSH KEKEKE) and a good portion of Japan are now beating the pants off of any US broadband provider. if the US wishes to maintain economic competitiveness in *anything* internet related, the FCC must not listen to the empty braying of companies like AT&T, Verizon, Comcast and the like, who all would prefer to take federal dollars without having to actually develop their own infrastructures. at lease Verizon is making some sort of effort with FiOS, but it's not enough.
@jcb231: We're talking broadband though. Do you really need Broadband for email and messaging? Basic web use maybe, video conferencing definitely but I made it through college with dialup. When it comes down to it, isn't most internet use, (especially broadband use,) more a source of entertainment then NEED? If I somehow offended God and was smited with dial up again, gaming and video would be the two things that would be missed the most.
I think people are missing the part where ISPs would have to overhaul their infrastructure to better support gaming. For instance the way things are setup now, you get really shitty ping times. This would have to be improved, another area that needs improvement is upload speeds. ISPs love to advertise large downloads and skimp out on the upload. For instance my download is advertised as 30Mbps, but the upload is only 1-2Mbps, and I have the top tier that has been upgraded like three times.
Xbox Live constitutes the majority of my internet usage at home. I plan on buying Modern Warfare 2 this holiday, and it's not because I'm interested in playing the story mode.
Lately, using Netflix through 360 has become regular in my house. How would AT&T define this? Gaming? I'm sure they aren't happy with me watching movies so cheaply instead of charging me for On Demand movies.
11/20/09
Something like this would blow Phillip K. Dick's mind.
11/20/09
THIS IS A TEST OF THE EMERGENCY ALERT SYSTEM
BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP
THIS IS A TEST OF THE EMERGENCY ALERT SYSTEM
BEEEEEEEEEP BEEEEEEP
THIS IS A TEST OF THE EMERGENCY ALERT SYSTEM
BEEEP BEEEP BEEEEEEEEEP
THIS IS A TEST OF THE EMERGENCY ALERT SYSTEM
BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP
THIS IS A TEST OF THE EMERGENCY ALERT SYSTEM
BEEEEEEEEEP BEEEEEEP
THIS IS A TEST OF THE EMERGENCY ALERT SYSTEM
BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEPnd so that's how I ended up in a jacuzzi with nine naked supreme court justices and Tim Schafer's dog.
11/19/09
Edit: I'd be really fucking pissed if I were in the middle of a match or game and it got interrupted so that they could test their new toy. If I hadn't read it here, I'd also be pretty freaked out for the first few moments, thinking it is a serious alarm. =/
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Fuck Tornados, like hard!
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I don't want my family to know the last thing I did in life was get trounced by a 13 year old girl.
11/19/09
TORNADO WARNING
"Sweet! I got another achievement!"
*house is blown down* :p
Seriously though, this is a great idea... I guess you'd have to have your billing info on file so they know your location though, since guessing by IP address isn't always accurate?
11/19/09
I'm curious how they'd avoid sending this to the wrong people.
I'd be pissed, and I'm sure a few others would be, if i kept getting a tornado warning for somewhere outside of my own country.
Interestingly I was just thinking about this considering how little i watch of live television or especially radio (read: not at all).
11/19/09
The problem with people receiving the warnings when they don't apply is that they learn to ignore them.
Being annoying is nowhere near as much of a problem as being ineffective.
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Thanks government.
11/19/09
Player1: "Uh, dude... that sounds like an emergency broadcast..."
Player2: "No, it's... uh, you know... just a tornado. C'mon, let's win this match and-"
Player1: "No man! You have to quit!
09/14/09
Thanks AT&T for still being the lumbering beast that had to be killed in the 80s.
09/15/09
09/14/09
You define broadband by download speed, upload speed, and latency, amongst other things.
Both parties are obfuscating matters by addressing this issue in terms of services.
09/14/09
Nothing is obfuscated, this is just the means to how the end is described.
09/14/09
I wish, then, that the article would provide what sort of UL/DL speeds AT&T considers to be "broadband". But maybe AT&T didn't go into that.
09/14/09
Don't fool yourself; if most telecoms could get away with only providing web browsing and nothing else, they'd do it in a heartbeat. The more a service actually uses bandwidth, the less they like it, and that extends directly to the people using it.
And gaming eats up a lot of bandwidth.
09/14/09
way to go once again Bush administration for letting this bully back on the block.
but all of that being said basic email and websurfing overall are prolly more important to the general public than gaming but gaming should be right behind these "basics" as it still is (and will only get bigger) a major reason a LOT of people get high speed internet and a lot of people work in the gaming industry (like myself) and use it for work related functions, which just so happen to be gaming and testing.
09/14/09
Americans love monopolies now. I blame the board game.
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"The Commission must send to Congress its National Broadband Plan—a set of recommendations for making sure that everybody in the United States has access to broadband."
Here is the thing... your greedy, world destroying, puppy raping businesses already have access to broadband. It's not about how we will manage to get an STM-256x line installed in every walmart, but how to get serviceable internet on par with the rest of the world to people who aren't currently able to access the service. So, without dragging on, they're basically trying to figure out what's the lowest amount of service we can give some family living in a trailer in the Ozarks and still mange to say "we gave them broadband access."
Yes it is about greed in part since they are trying to do it as cheaply as possible, but that's not the point of what's going on. Seven Billion dollars may seem like a lot, but when it comes down to it that's a great deal of work in upgrading or replacing the infrastructure, and the US is a large country with exceptionally low population density throughout basically the middle 2/3 of the country. That $7bn isn't going to stretch very far once all is said and done if you're trying to lay an OC3 to every person in Montana.
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09/14/09
no, what the FCC really should be looking at is the US's competitiveness compared to other online nations. South Korea (ZERG RUSH KEKEKE) and a good portion of Japan are now beating the pants off of any US broadband provider. if the US wishes to maintain economic competitiveness in *anything* internet related, the FCC must not listen to the empty braying of companies like AT&T, Verizon, Comcast and the like, who all would prefer to take federal dollars without having to actually develop their own infrastructures. at lease Verizon is making some sort of effort with FiOS, but it's not enough.
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Lately, using Netflix through 360 has become regular in my house. How would AT&T define this? Gaming? I'm sure they aren't happy with me watching movies so cheaply instead of charging me for On Demand movies.