And here I thought he was going to bring the game out for the current gen consoles... Sucks that I now know I will not only miss out on 2, but for the moment it seems all his games are going to be on the lame company's systems. HD, a real processor and power of a current gen console that he refuses to tap into. Imagine if he did all he could possibly get out of the 360... Or a NMH where you could challenge friends on live who play other assassins in a true Open world environment.
You're a talented fellow, I hope NMH2 is more successful then the first. I've only played 20 minutes of the first and although it had it's faults, it was funner then hell.
All you Wii owners support this man, because if you don't. Suda, baby...PS360 extends their meaty sweaty arms to you.
@ChandlerLachesis: This sucks. I was under the impression that you were going to attempt to make a viable post instead of idiotic troll spew. It's a shame, cause the hammer is getting harder to clean.
@DLZ: No it just means you suck for being an elitist graphics whore. For what the game is, the graphical style suits it well. Anything else and it just wouldn't be a Suda 51 game. NMH 99% of your entire video game library. #wii
Dear Suda -- thank you for not pulling a Namco on us Nintendo enthusiasts [fanboys]. It feels good for a third party developer to not be stabbing those who brought the most support in the back. Wii fanboys appriciate the pre-emptive support and willingness to follow through.
@Microshock: I used to be one of those. Until The only thing I had to defend after SSBB was Wii Music, Wii Fit and the prospect of a possible new Zelda down the line in 2011 or something (this was before this E3).
I just couldn't take it anymore. For me as an old Nintendo fanboy THIS exact moment is the worst time to be a Nintendo enthusiast. Worse than during the N64 and GC days. This right now, not in 2006, 2007 or the first half of 2008.
Especially when all the good third party games are released only on PS360 and those that do are year old ports (COD4) or stripped down lamer ports (COD3, COD WaW, Star Wars FU, FIFAs, Maddens, Tomb Raider, to name a few).
@M-Pyre: Well, Grasshopper has done quite a few games for Nintendo hardware. Killer7 was a GameCube exclusive until Capcom ordered a PS2 port. Then there was No More Heroes 1&2, a DS port of Flower, Sun, and Rain, the RPG Contact, and dev work on Fatal Frame IV. Suda and the others at Grasshopper are definitely not shy when it comes to making games for them.
And to be fair, No More Heroes actually ended up selling spectacularly compared to other Grasshopper titles. It didn't do so hot in Japan, but ended up wracking up several hundred-thousand sales overseas. Compared with Killer7, which tanked horribly despite being on two platforms, including the ultrapopular PS2, NMH was a blockbuster for them.
Is Namco the best company to mention here? For the longest time, when Nakamura and Yamauchi headed the respective firms, the companies did not work well together. In fact, Nakamura went as far as partnering with Sony during the early 90's and released almost all of their libraries on the PS1.
It wasn't until Yamauchi and Nakamura retired when the companies were at peace.
Ironically Nintendo owns about 5% of Namco now (through the Bandai merger). That means nothing of course since Sony owns 10% of SE and... well, you know the rest.
@Alex_Mexico: The blinders you wear are -huge-. If the only game you saw to 'defend' after SSBB was Wii Fit or Music, then you simply weren't looking hard enough.
And calling this the worst time to be a Nintendo enthusiast? When Nintendo released more of it's 1st party games in the first 3 years of the system's life then they did during the N64 and GC years? Sad.
As for third party, your memory must be amazingly short to have forgotten that third parties haven't overwhelmingly supported a Nintendo home system in years. It's why you buy a Nintendo system for Nintendo games, because third parties are a mixed bag and counting on them to save the day will at the end of it, leave you starving. Same lesson Sony's had to learn and why they are not in a massive build up of 1st and 2nd party studios.
@SG79: The bad blood between Namco and Nintendo is because Namco was a direct result of the 10NES saga and Tengen. Nakamura directly spit into the eye of Yamauchi and Yamauchi reacted to the insult by pretty much unleashing hell.
That's what he meant? That's disappointing. Considering how the Wii's treated me, I'm gonna steer far away from Nintendo's next console, if I even bother with next generation at all.
@Archaotic: I get staying away from whatever trainwreck follows the Wii, but why would you flat out pass up on an entire generation of gaming? Are you just in a bad mood or something today? Cause that just doesn't sound like a rational statement from someone as hardcore into gaming as you.
@raffleking: Just tired of it, I guess. I don't really feel like buying an entirely new set of consoles when next generation can only get WORSE than this one.
@Archaotic: Considering any next gen is at least three to four years away, and that like it or not this generation has seen some of the most important advancements in video gaming as a serious entertainment medium and not just toys for hobbyists, I'm still completely puzzled by this. Are you still upset over no FF Versus info? Cause I am too man, but you're still not making sense!
@raffleking: I'm not interested in watching the industry grow more mincing, vicious, corporate, and anti-consumer. It's going to happen, just like it happened to film, music, television, and every other form of media. It's already happening.
@Archaotic: Yeah but when that happens there is always the independent movement that arises to counteract it. Which is already somewhat happening. Also, the industry has become MUCH more consumer-friendly this generation. Console exclusives are way less prevalent this go around than they were in previous generations. Prices, although some may feel are "high", have at least been stabilized around an industry-wide price. Previous gen game prices varied way more, especially in the cartridge era. Yeah there's the corporate motherfuckery that exists in any entertainment industry, but that's always going to be there and you can't act like that's something new...it's been happening since people realized they could make money off of video games.
@Archaotic: It'll bounce back when the casual gamers get tired of it.. Then the need for the visuals to be top-notch dissapears and we'll all go back to gameplaygraphics.
@raffleking: I guess I'm just tired of all of it. I really don't think the next generation is going to add anything but an increased focus on casualized, mass-market gaming. In that case, why buy a console at all if it's only focused towards the mainstream rabble who don't care about what they buy unless it's advertised to them during RAW? Every genre I like is being killed or transformed into some sort of hideous patchwork gestalt of its former self. Why bother?
And honestly, I'm just tired of how expensive of a hobby it is. I've said numerous times that this is my last generation. So far, nothing seems to be able to change my mind on that.
@Foxstar is in love with Kotaku's two Brians.: I have eight games for my Wii. I have 40 for each of the other two consoles. I can't help but find that a little depressing, especially being someone who's supported Nintendo since the '80s.
@moose39: Yes, also make it so that you swing the thing to strike.. not press some fucking button..
God, i was so dissapointed by that.. Lend my brother's wii, bought the game, hooked it up.. and saw i had to press A to strike.. I died a little inside that day..
@D-K, Oh sheeple..: You'd rather strain your wrist with the amount of swinging around that full motion control combat would have required?
No More Heroes had the perfect balance of button and motion controls, in my opinion. Sword strikes with the A Button, finishers with a swing, using B and a motion to pull off throws, and of course, jacking the Wii Remote off in order to regain battery power. It was an excellent control scheme from start to finish.
@D-K, Oh sheeple..: I'm not sure about that. Considering the best Nintendo could do with a wiimote WITHOUT motion plus was Twilight Princess, I'm rather happy Suda went the route he did. On that note, I also feel I should bring up Red Steel...
I mean, an ultra violent, ultra stylized Red Steel is still, at the core, Red Steel.
And one more tack onto the attempt of Nintendo to use full motion -- anyone remember a little E3 Demo by the name of Project H.A.M.M.E.R.? I'm certain there's a reason that was scrapped.
@Lezard: The finishers were just a wrist flick and somewhat unresponsive. I practice martial arts so i'd fully embrace motion controlled NMH.
Though i realise i'm part of a small sub-group within the gaming community, i'm thinking a real Gong Fu or fighting game would cater to a very willing niche croud.
That or a motion controlled Dynasty Warriors game... yeah.. awesome.
@zixaphir: I just failed to inform myself of the features and controls, therefore i went in expecting to be swooshing around and unintentionally decimating half my posessions by doing so..
It just left me a bit underwhelmed which turned me off an otherwise great game
@moose39: Let's see. Please make a cult game on a system with the smallest install base out of the three home consoles and also one with the highest development costs on a new control method that has the current install base of 0%.
@zixaphir: I know, but in the sense of a game being described as a clone to a genre defining title, platform is, more often than not, irrelevant.
No need for explaining yourself btw, difference of opinion opens up dialogue, dialogue leads to understanding, which leads to the sharing of knowledge.
Huh, well, I actually thought that this could've been what he had meant when he first mentioned this but I always assumed that was the optimistic interpretation and, like most others, thought this meant he was moving the series to the 360 or PS3.
Its nice to see a good game that has a "good" (I'm very optimistic but you can never be too sure) sequel on the way with out any ideas of a trilogy. This trilogy thing really needs to stop. In the gaming and movie industry.
@excel_excel: Shit me not, 50 bosses? That's amazing. All they have to do is take away all the boring bull shit money gathering and it will blow the first one out of the water.
@TJH518: I don't mind there being part-time job minigames as long as you don't have to do them over and over to get enough cash for another match. I know this time around the side jobs are 8-bit styled, which is clearly more awesome than the original, but they would lose their awesomeness if I had to flip pixel steaks for 2 hours to build up ranked match buy-in cash.
@excel_excel: As much as i'd like to believe it you can't prove that. Most likely some bosses will be killed off by other characters* ahemhem*Letz Shake*cough* or fight like 10 at once.
@jive238: They did mention that you could get it bosses to fight each other or have a three way battle with you and two other bosses (maybe more) all fighting it out together.
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You're a talented fellow, I hope NMH2 is more successful then the first. I've only played 20 minutes of the first and although it had it's faults, it was funner then hell.
All you Wii owners support this man, because if you don't. Suda, baby...PS360 extends their meaty sweaty arms to you.
And I have pie...that's all the coaxing you need.
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Promoted for truth...
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When I saw the screens before the first one came out it showed all the little figures in Travis' room. I assumed you would find or buy them.
Call me a dweeb or a poindexter if you will but that assumption made the giant No More Heroes magnet attached to my money grow threefold.
Game was still amazing, but I have never gotten over the disappointment...
Please Suda.... *wimper* collectibles.....
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How troll-tastic of you.
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Rewarding talent with poor sales is just heartbreaking, and I wouldn't blame him for choosing not to release a game on a Nintendo platform.
I'm only talking about what's "fair" here though. I don't know if NMH would actually sell more on another system or not.
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@KingFrog: Perhaps he's a Nintendo fan. =P
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I just couldn't take it anymore. For me as an old Nintendo fanboy THIS exact moment is the worst time to be a Nintendo enthusiast. Worse than during the N64 and GC days. This right now, not in 2006, 2007 or the first half of 2008.
Especially when all the good third party games are released only on PS360 and those that do are year old ports (COD4) or stripped down lamer ports (COD3, COD WaW, Star Wars FU, FIFAs, Maddens, Tomb Raider, to name a few).
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And to be fair, No More Heroes actually ended up selling spectacularly compared to other Grasshopper titles. It didn't do so hot in Japan, but ended up wracking up several hundred-thousand sales overseas. Compared with Killer7, which tanked horribly despite being on two platforms, including the ultrapopular PS2, NMH was a blockbuster for them.
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Is Namco the best company to mention here? For the longest time, when Nakamura and Yamauchi headed the respective firms, the companies did not work well together. In fact, Nakamura went as far as partnering with Sony during the early 90's and released almost all of their libraries on the PS1.
It wasn't until Yamauchi and Nakamura retired when the companies were at peace.
Ironically Nintendo owns about 5% of Namco now (through the Bandai merger). That means nothing of course since Sony owns 10% of SE and... well, you know the rest.
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And calling this the worst time to be a Nintendo enthusiast? When Nintendo released more of it's 1st party games in the first 3 years of the system's life then they did during the N64 and GC years? Sad.
As for third party, your memory must be amazingly short to have forgotten that third parties haven't overwhelmingly supported a Nintendo home system in years. It's why you buy a Nintendo system for Nintendo games, because third parties are a mixed bag and counting on them to save the day will at the end of it, leave you starving. Same lesson Sony's had to learn and why they are not in a massive build up of 1st and 2nd party studios.
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Or not..
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And honestly, I'm just tired of how expensive of a hobby it is. I've said numerous times that this is my last generation. So far, nothing seems to be able to change my mind on that.
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God, i was so dissapointed by that.. Lend my brother's wii, bought the game, hooked it up.. and saw i had to press A to strike.. I died a little inside that day..
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No More Heroes had the perfect balance of button and motion controls, in my opinion. Sword strikes with the A Button, finishers with a swing, using B and a motion to pull off throws, and of course, jacking the Wii Remote off in order to regain battery power. It was an excellent control scheme from start to finish.
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I mean, an ultra violent, ultra stylized Red Steel is still, at the core, Red Steel.
And one more tack onto the attempt of Nintendo to use full motion -- anyone remember a little E3 Demo by the name of Project H.A.M.M.E.R.? I'm certain there's a reason that was scrapped.
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Though i realise i'm part of a small sub-group within the gaming community, i'm thinking a real Gong Fu or fighting game would cater to a very willing niche croud.
That or a motion controlled Dynasty Warriors game... yeah.. awesome.
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It just left me a bit underwhelmed which turned me off an otherwise great game
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A+
GOLDSTAR
A little smiley-face sticker
Green felt-tip writing that says "Excellent Work"
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Yeah..
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(I feel kinda like a jerk refuting two of your statements in a row, guy. I'm not hating -- just trying to make myself heard.)
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No need for explaining yourself btw, difference of opinion opens up dialogue, dialogue leads to understanding, which leads to the sharing of knowledge.
Discussion is food for the mind, my friend
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