I played through GoW 1 but not 2. This is a sweet deal for me. Like some others have mentioned, playing the originals on a BC PS3 upscaled to HD isn't the same. Plus they're on the same bluray disk and the trophies are a nice incentive. I'm in and will be heading to gamestop to get my copy in an hour or so.
Can we get a Ico, Shadow of the Colossus collections...or maybe MGS, MGS2 and MGS3...Devil May Cry would be nice...FFX and FFXII
This is worth a $20 purchase @ most. No need to replay a game people already own with pretty visuals. Yes I understand it's in hd & the so called upscaled code that you can use for the ps2 version however, I just can't see myself doing so. It's like saying, would you like a fancy Hamburger when i can get the same exact thing @ carls jr. Lastly, I hope no one replies with a smart ass remark stating, "well no one is forcing you to" as I too, understand that as well. Thus far, with this & bayonetta never cries, I'd stick with the latter; on the 360 that is, ffxiii on ps3 #godofwarcollection
@NeVeRMoRe666: reminds me of that doctor's emails in the first assassin's creed. The guy types pretty much normally except when there's an at where he just goes @. It was just weird considering it just didn't fit in with the rest of his personality that they wrote him as. #godofwarcollection
@mobetta: Because some people haven't had the Carl's Jr. burger, but are sitting down with a menu in front of them at one of the best burger joints in town.
If Team Ico would just give this same treatment to Ico and Shadow of the Colossus, I'd be the happiest girl in school...I'd also be the ugliest girl in school since I'm a dude, but you get the idea. #godofwarcollection
@Bobarian: I'm a little confused by all of the Ico comments. The game has its reputation for a well-deserved reason, but it didn't sell well in the first place. Shadow of the Colossus did better, but not significantly so.
How well would a remake of a game with niche appeal really sell? #godofwarcollection
@spiderweb1986: Greatest hits compilations tend to be profitable because of two reasons. 1) they were originally good games and have a following of sorts. 2) most of the game is already done. You only have to tweak it for the new platform. I for one would love to play a team ico redux. #godofwarcollection
@Bobarian: I don't know how fast they could do that, anyone has any idea of the original resolution that ICO/SOTC was made? GOW textures were already 720p downscaled. #godofwarcollection
@Bobarian: As someone who never had the money for two systems until this generation, I'm all for rereleasing Ico and Shadow of the Colossus. I plan on buying a PS3 soon so this would be ideal for me. #godofwarcollection
@spiderweb1986: Well would it have to? The amount of work for these remakes is noticable, but not overwhelming.
Ico and Shadow of the Colossus are fan favorites, so the Wii Okami is probably a good comparison, which had at least enough sales to justify a new DS game.
Add to that the additional advertisement for "The last Guardian", one of the titles Sony wants to push, that actually might make sense.
Not to mention that it would be another 'good release' for the PS3 to woo the hardcore from the XBox and they could release it at a traditional drought time. E.g. summer. #godofwarcollection
@Hoagie_one: The following is a double-edged sword - how many people are going to be eager to repurchase a game they already own, even if it is upgraded or released at a lower price?
I guess it would come down to how much time and money it'd take Sony to remake the game. #godofwarcollection
@spiderweb1986: When I first thought about this, I also began wondering about the possibilities of this being anything but a complicated matter - a solo edition of Ico&SoC? But then I remembered how Sony always brags about their generous Blu-Ray format capacity, and in that moment saw the perfect vision of a Special edition The Last Guardian featuring also, guess what? #godofwarcollection
@spiderweb1986: Which is exactly why this would work for the team ICO games as ICO is hard to find and they can get the shadow of colossus crowd to buy it to replay SotC and to play ICO for the first time. IMO. #godofwarcollection
@Bobarian: This exact idea also came to my mind when I first heard about the GoW collection...Please let them do it.
@spiderweb1986:
"How well would a remake of a game with niche appeal really sell?"
Well, it has no less appeal to the common gamer than The Last Guardian itself, and besides making some cash with no real risk involved with a "Team Ico Collection", it'd surely help raise interest for The Last Guardian...Which is probably the main reason behind the GoW collection, too.
Besides, while especially Ico may have suffered harshly from lack of interest back in the day (and eBay was your only chance of grabbing a copy...), it's now fetching top dollar on eBay because it has developed to one of the most iconic and most referred-to games of the present.
And don't forget the momentum the upcoming release of TLG would give a remake of Ico and SotC...Think of the people who can't wait to play TLG and still want to catch up on the series, but can't because they either don't have a PS2/60GB PS3, or they can't afford a copy of both games (which would easily cost you a hundred bucks combined).
@spiderweb1986: Good point, I know that the only times I repurchase a game is for old titles that give me a sense of nostalgia. Buying a remake of a game from the previous generation isn't something I'm likely to do. #godofwarcollection
@ClaudioIphigenia: I'm exactly in the same position. As shameful it might be to admit publicly, I didn't have that kind of money when PS2 came out, I was just a poor (literally) Polish student.
When I started working, I didn't buy PS2 because it was, well, quite old already. I am now waiting for PS3 and big-ass LCDs to knock their price down a notch and I will be happily jumping on PS3 wagon.
And yes, I would like to replay PS2 best games and yes, I would pay for them. #godofwarcollection
I like how up-front they are being with the fact that this is just a re-release of the PS2 games with slightly better graphics. They aren't adding 5% new content and then trying to sell it as a whole new experience for full price. They are charging exactly what it would cost to buy the two games on the PS2.
The first God of War is still sitting in my pile of shame, so I'll probably pick this up and play it instead. #godofwarcollection
@anabbeynormality: So you get 2 awesome PS2 games on your PS3 for 40 bucks.
Imagine those who have a Playstation 3 that is not backwards compatible and they have not played neither God of War game but have been meaning to for a long time. This is such a great opportunity for them to play it right now.
Not only that, you can also unlock the GoW3 demo, as well as trophies. Granted it's not much but it's a helluva lot better than just getting 2 PS2 games on a blu ray disc with no extra content.
So you may already have GoW for PS2. That's fine. But don't make it seem as if it's a complete waste of money when it's quite an awesome deal for others. #godofwarcollection
@Krimmson: I said nothing of the sort. Did you read my post? I said that they're not trying to rip off customers by charging more than what the original game costs and that I'd probably buy it. #godofwarcollection
@anabbeynormality: My apologies, but when I see a post that reads like, "They aren't adding 5% new content and then trying to sell it as a whole new experience for full price. They are charging exactly what it would cost to buy the two games on the PS2," then I can't help but think the author of said post is complaining of its price.
Although after looking at the second paragraph I do see where I have misread the statement.
@Krimmson: It's cool. I was in a hurry, so it might have been unclear. When companies port games to newer systems and charge the full price of what a brand new game would be in that system, it drives me nuts. Usually they try to justify this by adding a tiny bit of content. For example, if Square Enix did this, they'd probably add 45 minutes of gameplay and charge $60 for each game. I think $40 for both is a bargain.
@mrclam: Actually, the Ps2 was technically capable of displaying at up to 1280x1024, but was capped at 480p for all Ps2 games, due to the difficulty at processing at higher resolutions, and the lack of TV's that went higher at the time.
So, yeah, the Ps2 and the Wii have identical resolution capabilities. #godofwarcollection
@mrclam: Sigh. First of all, I didn't say "what "480p is", because that statement includes grossly incorrect punctuation.
What I did say was "What did you think 480i and 480p stood for?"
That was because I was talking about the general vertical resolution used.
Regardless of that, there's not a signifigcant difference between 640 x 480 (which actually shows up as a lower resolution on most screens), and 518 x 480, the resolution used.
And, it doesn't change the general fact that the Wii can only display at resolutions that the PS2 was capable of. #godofwarcollection
@searanox: they did it in 15 weeks. I'm sure that SERIOUSLY interests publishers/developers. That's a VERY short/cheap dev process to rake in extra money for game they already released.
I fully expect the same exact thing for Ico and Shadow of the Colossus. I hope there are others, too. #godofwarcollection
@mangs: they did it in 15 weeks. I'm sure that SERIOUSLY interests publishers/developers.
If that's all the time it took, I'm guessing that they already had higher-resolution materials available to them from the development process - I don't think anyone would be able to remake all of the art assets for two games in such a short time. Increasing texture resolution when you have access to the source isn't that big of a deal, and neither is rerendering the cutscenes.
The upgrade is definitely appreciated, but this doesn't seem as groundbreaking as some of you are making it out to be. #godofwarcollection
@spiderweb1986: Well it is not about being 'groundbreaking' in the technical sense but in the economic sense. And even then it is at best ... 'an interesting attempt'.
The GoW collection is a test of the economic viability of these ports. If either the collection or GoW doesn't sell well, this is it. If the former does well, we will probably see a few more PS2 re-releases,
Just consider it an improved example to the Bionic Commando approach of creating buzz by re-releasing an update to the previous game.
BC showed how not to do that though - both releases were simply to far apart to actually create any hype on release of BC and they were not tied together in any way.
If this ends up as Sony's version to "include beta key of highly wanted game in ignored game", then it is a big win for gamers. #godofwarcollection
@spiderweb1986: they didn't upgrade any textures or anything. They just ported the rendering code and used texture filtering to smooth out rough looking textures. But that's not the impressive part. PORTING TWO PS2 GAMES TO PS3 IN FOUR MONTHS IS AMAZINGLY FAST.
@develin: If this ends up as Sony's version to "include beta key of highly wanted game in ignored game", then it is a big win for gamers.
I'd be fine with that. It's worked for Nintendo (the GameCube bonus discs) and Microsoft (Banjo-Kazooie), although neither have done it recently. It's just a shame that the only place we're still seeing that kind of promotion is Steam.
Four months is a short period of time, but they didn't need to do much work in the process. Porting some code and writing some filters, for a team of designers, isn't a very demanding project.
Like searanox said, I'm not seeing how this is the groundbreaking achievement the game's release materials and Sony's fanboys are trumpeting it as.
@spiderweb1986: Once you've ported code from one platform to another (game consoles or otherwise), THEN you can comment on how easy it is. I've done exactly this a few times and porting is a HUGE pain the ass because you're given a code base written by a bunch of people that you've never met and that you can't ask questions. If everyone could port games this fast, there would be ten PS2 collections on PS3, not one.
@spiderweb1986: no, it was made by bluepoint games with the supervision of the lead programmer for God of War 1 and 2, but I don't think he actually wrote any code. He just provided guidance for the code he oversaw. But a project like God of War has TONS of coders, so I doubt he's seen that much of the code.
Man... I went to Best Buy, Toys R Us, and some Mom and Pop store but they didn't have the collection =/ Amazon's not getting it until the 19th. Guess I'll do Amazon, atleast I won't have to pay tax. Wasted so much gas today :( #godofwarcollection
@ph15h: same here.....the guy at best buy said he was going to call somewhere to see if they have it, and i never saw him again. Toys R Us is a freaking joke where i live....oh! a tasteless joke so you don't confuse it with a funny one. #godofwarcollection
@ph15h: You can join an association of game developers and help influence them to set regulations that's what you can do... just a thought... #godofwarcollection
@sentroshi: They hardly ever show up online as an in-store pick up option on the day of release at Best Buy, but I saw some on sale for ridiculous prices online so I felt they must've been in stores. :( #godofwarcollection
@BurntFM: You've been abandoned by a "sales associate" at Best Buy too? One went to go look for an in-store pickup they've misplaced and didn't return for the 12 minutes I waited until another person asked if I needed help... she still had my printout.
The Toys R Us employees here don't really care much for games unless it's Nintendo or a console sale. #godofwarcollection
@ph15h: I preordered this at gamestop, called them today and of course it wasn't in. They said tomorrow noon-ish. Of course I'm calling ahead again just incase its not in. I really can't wait to play these games since I didn't on the ps2. #godofwarcollection
@-MasterDex-: That's not anything official. That's Sony marketing-speak. There's no ATSC spec for "Full HD" (there's also no ATSC spec for 1080p, but that's beside the point).
They also don't capitalize the "F". They just say it's running in "full HD", which linguistically just means it's never not running in HD.
I think all you can take from this is that it's running at least at 720p. It may even be doing 720p some of the time and 1080p at other times (like, say, for the cinemas).
@badasscat: You are technically correct BUT it is taken as a given in the retail marketing world that HD or HD Ready = 720p and Full HD or full HD = 1080p. #godofwarcollection
Oh my...
I'd only really played CoO, but it blew me away how a genre I basically lost interest in when it went 3D had become so fun and fluid. I think it's time to do some catching up! #godofwarcollection
Awesome. I expect kotaku to do some side by side screen-shot comparisons between GOW1 and 2 running on a PS2, being run a BC PS3, and against the remastered PS3 version. #godofwarcollection
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Can we get a Ico, Shadow of the Colossus collections...or maybe MGS, MGS2 and MGS3...Devil May Cry would be nice...FFX and FFXII
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How well would a remake of a game with niche appeal really sell? #godofwarcollection
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Ico and Shadow of the Colossus are fan favorites, so the Wii Okami is probably a good comparison, which had at least enough sales to justify a new DS game.
Add to that the additional advertisement for "The last Guardian", one of the titles Sony wants to push, that actually might make sense.
Not to mention that it would be another 'good release' for the PS3 to woo the hardcore from the XBox and they could release it at a traditional drought time. E.g. summer. #godofwarcollection
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I guess it would come down to how much time and money it'd take Sony to remake the game. #godofwarcollection
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@spiderweb1986:
"How well would a remake of a game with niche appeal really sell?"
Well, it has no less appeal to the common gamer than The Last Guardian itself, and besides making some cash with no real risk involved with a "Team Ico Collection", it'd surely help raise interest for The Last Guardian...Which is probably the main reason behind the GoW collection, too.
Besides, while especially Ico may have suffered harshly from lack of interest back in the day (and eBay was your only chance of grabbing a copy...), it's now fetching top dollar on eBay because it has developed to one of the most iconic and most referred-to games of the present.
And don't forget the momentum the upcoming release of TLG would give a remake of Ico and SotC...Think of the people who can't wait to play TLG and still want to catch up on the series, but can't because they either don't have a PS2/60GB PS3, or they can't afford a copy of both games (which would easily cost you a hundred bucks combined).
I don't see the problem at all. #godofwarcollection
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When I started working, I didn't buy PS2 because it was, well, quite old already. I am now waiting for PS3 and big-ass LCDs to knock their price down a notch and I will be happily jumping on PS3 wagon.
And yes, I would like to replay PS2 best games and yes, I would pay for them. #godofwarcollection
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The first God of War is still sitting in my pile of shame, so I'll probably pick this up and play it instead. #godofwarcollection
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Imagine those who have a Playstation 3 that is not backwards compatible and they have not played neither God of War game but have been meaning to for a long time. This is such a great opportunity for them to play it right now.
Not only that, you can also unlock the GoW3 demo, as well as trophies. Granted it's not much but it's a helluva lot better than just getting 2 PS2 games on a blu ray disc with no extra content.
So you may already have GoW for PS2. That's fine. But don't make it seem as if it's a complete waste of money when it's quite an awesome deal for others. #godofwarcollection
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Although after looking at the second paragraph I do see where I have misread the statement.
#speakup
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What did you think 480i and 480p stood for?
(And, the Wii still runs at those resolutions, so...) #godofwarcollection
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480i = 640×480
480p = 720×480
So if yer going to troll about how bad you think the wii is.. at least get your facts right first. #godofwarcollection
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So, yeah, the Ps2 and the Wii have identical resolution capabilities. #godofwarcollection
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480p is 720x480 - which is much higher resolution.
Thus your point was wrong. #godofwarcollection
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What I did say was "What did you think 480i and 480p stood for?"
That was because I was talking about the general vertical resolution used.
Regardless of that, there's not a signifigcant difference between 640 x 480 (which actually shows up as a lower resolution on most screens), and 518 x 480, the resolution used.
And, it doesn't change the general fact that the Wii can only display at resolutions that the PS2 was capable of. #godofwarcollection
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That isn't exactly what I'd consider to be a monumental accomplishment. #godofwarcollection
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I fully expect the same exact thing for Ico and Shadow of the Colossus. I hope there are others, too. #godofwarcollection
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If that's all the time it took, I'm guessing that they already had higher-resolution materials available to them from the development process - I don't think anyone would be able to remake all of the art assets for two games in such a short time. Increasing texture resolution when you have access to the source isn't that big of a deal, and neither is rerendering the cutscenes.
The upgrade is definitely appreciated, but this doesn't seem as groundbreaking as some of you are making it out to be. #godofwarcollection
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The GoW collection is a test of the economic viability of these ports. If either the collection or GoW doesn't sell well, this is it. If the former does well, we will probably see a few more PS2 re-releases,
Just consider it an improved example to the Bionic Commando approach of creating buzz by re-releasing an update to the previous game.
BC showed how not to do that though - both releases were simply to far apart to actually create any hype on release of BC and they were not tied together in any way.
If this ends up as Sony's version to "include beta key of highly wanted game in ignored game", then it is a big win for gamers. #godofwarcollection
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I'd be fine with that. It's worked for Nintendo (the GameCube bonus discs) and Microsoft (Banjo-Kazooie), although neither have done it recently. It's just a shame that the only place we're still seeing that kind of promotion is Steam.
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Four months is a short period of time, but they didn't need to do much work in the process. Porting some code and writing some filters, for a team of designers, isn't a very demanding project.
Like searanox said, I'm not seeing how this is the groundbreaking achievement the game's release materials and Sony's fanboys are trumpeting it as.
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You Got the Touch!
"Climbed the Spiked Column in Hades without taking damage"
How the heck am i suppose to do that you jerks ヽ(`Д´)ノ #godofwarcollection
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@Curse lily: That is why you fail. #godofwarcollection
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@Koztah: That's it, i'm joining the dark side of the Force....you old jelly bean. #godofwarcollection
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The Toys R Us employees here don't really care much for games unless it's Nintendo or a console sale. #godofwarcollection
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Is it 720p or 1080p or what? Why do they not give us the specific resolution? #godofwarcollection
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They also don't capitalize the "F". They just say it's running in "full HD", which linguistically just means it's never not running in HD.
I think all you can take from this is that it's running at least at 720p. It may even be doing 720p some of the time and 1080p at other times (like, say, for the cinemas).
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@DaveKap: After some digging I found that the collection itself supports a 1080 resoultion though it's half 1080 mode @ 960x1080.
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I'd only really played CoO, but it blew me away how a genre I basically lost interest in when it went 3D had become so fun and fluid. I think it's time to do some catching up! #godofwarcollection
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@fuchikoma: You played cobalt(II) oxide? :P
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[kotaku.com] #godofwarcollection
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