I used Ghost as my personal meat shield while playing that oil rig level on veteran difficulty. When the bad guys popped smoke and started charging us at the top of the oil rig, I just hid behind Ghost. He must've taken about a thousand rounds, but he kept getting right back up. Thanks, Mr. Meat Shield! So you can imagine my surprise later in the game when **** spoilers **** only one bullet from Shepherd managed to do him in. What a craptastic end to a level that was! *** end spoilers *** #modernwarfare2
@Pretty Sneaky Sis: I actually dug Ghost. I stuck around fiddling with things after completing The Pit, and overheard some people talking about the guy with the mask and sunglasses who went through. I immediately thought, 'that's sorta dumb.' Then when I got thrown into missions with him it was always a treat. It's random, but that one line made the character for me. I will go on record as saying that I would buy Call of Duty: Ghost... Ghost... Aww hell, this game is never coming out if that subtitle is any indication.
@Anemone: Dude yeah. I liked Ghost a lot, and I got attached to him. But because the game does shy away from in-depth character development in favor of furthering your missions and getting things done... Well, you don't hear enough from him. I'd probably be on board for a Ghost game. Albeit I would still think of it as foreign because he wasn't given enough attention.
Look, okay, I realize MW2 or MW1 weren't supposed to have "Good stories" or whatever, but man, how can people even care about these characters? They, really, don't DO anything. They're just there. There's barely any story to them at all. Is it because his mask is cool or something? Did he say a funny one liner? because that's about all I can figure out of people. These stories.. I just don't get it. They're like action movies, but, BUT they're action movies where EVERYTHING is removed from them, EXCEPT the action. Imagine, if you will, if someone took Terminator 2, and just had the chase scenes, the explosions, and all that, and left out the actual story parts, the talky parts, all those important parts, and that's what MW2 and MW1 were like. I mean, it's impossible to like or get attached to anyone in that game, because the writing is so poor, and IW seems to be allergic to trying to inject more story into it, outside of having "Cool action scenes". #modernwarfare2
I'm sorry that you're the sort of of person who mashed the A button down as fast as he could to skip cutscenes and debriefings. I'm sorry you completely glossed over all the back and forth between your team while you were playing. I'm sorry the power of being in first person the entire time, throughout everything you were doing, aka the Freeman effect, didn't work on you.
For a lot of us, however, the characters connected pretty hard. Likely because they had been through the same hell we went through (going along with the whole Freeman effect) every step of the way, and their reactions to our actions were much the same as our own (I for one really did yell loudly when I was doing my balls to the wall run of a rooftop with Sgt Foley with a pair of green flares so we didn't get bombed by our own guys). #modernwarfare2
@potatojenkins: Projection. Often times people can form stronger connections to characters whose back story and exposition are left to their own imagination. #modernwarfare2
@Adhominem: We're talking about Activision here.. The Ghost games will be spin-offs that will come out in the summer. Like the Guitar Hero spin-offs :P #modernwarfare2
@Fieldy: Don't forget Hunter 2-1, they all survived. I'm guessing Foley, Dunn and Ramirez will be back for MW3. Foley is superb, he was badass. Like when he tells Dunn to shut it after he starts flipping out after the EMP!
I just hope we are back in Soap's shoes for MW3 and he and Price take down Makarov. I'm begging IW not to kill off Soap, Price, Foley, Dunn or Ramirez (or even Nikolai for that matter) but knowing them and how much they seemed to like killing off Jackson and Gaz from MW1 and Ghost and Roach from MW2 they will probably kill them all. :( #modernwarfare2
I knew the twist about Shepherd, but didn't know it was going to play out that way. In terms of giving you a reason to hate someone, I think IW has explored about as many different ways to pull it off as possible. #modernwarfare2
@Fieldy: I felt the exact same way. The Army Rangers missions were excellent, and their depictions of a war-torn America bordered on shocking (in a good way?), but the Task Force 141 missions were basically "that's all well and good, but it's time to kick some ass." #modernwarfare2
- the US missions focused on the regular warfare kind of deal, like older COD titles
- the TF 141 missions had more of a Hollywood-like action movie feel to them.
I swear the shower scene during the Gulag mission was ripped straight off of the movie The Rock.
@relatively_speaking: Even without official confirmation it was obvious. But I didn't mean my comment to sound negative. The Rock is one of my favorite action movies of all time, right there with Die Hard :D
@AceofCase: lol Red Dawn. I heard so much praise about how that movie was hilarious that when I finally watched it I thought it was the most boring piece of shit ever. It almost put me to sleep.
That being said, I did get a good laugh when I reached a certain level and saw it was called "Wolverines!" lol #modernwarfare2
I thought Gaz and Ghost sounded the same. . . could they be the same character? Because if they are, and he gets his own comic/game, I'm interested. #modernwarfare2
@TrjnRabbit:
Nah, I looked it up on the Call of Duty Wiki. Gaz was shot in the head and died in MW1, Ghost is a new character just voiced by the same guy. #modernwarfare2
@Communist Pope: I'm thinking it will be something along the lines of Halo:ODST. Should be an expansion pack but it won't be. Activision probably looked at ODST and said "We can do the same thing and make even more!" DLC as a new game for $39.99. except Activision will probably make it $59.99.
@Seth Roberson: If they make an expansion with a 3-5 hour campaign (about half of MW2's average length), 5 new maps, and some new spec ops missions, I'd pay $39.99 for it. #modernwarfare2
@Communist Pope: They need to do a DLC that addresses the lack of a Zombies-type gameplay. Maybe this could be their ticket somehow. I dunno, it would need 4 characters though, not just one. #modernwarfare2
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War Hero: Ghost's Tour #modernwarfare2
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@GreyFoxV1: ): This kind of uninformed comment makes me sad inside. #modernwarfare2
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I'm sorry that you're the sort of of person who mashed the A button down as fast as he could to skip cutscenes and debriefings. I'm sorry you completely glossed over all the back and forth between your team while you were playing. I'm sorry the power of being in first person the entire time, throughout everything you were doing, aka the Freeman effect, didn't work on you.
For a lot of us, however, the characters connected pretty hard. Likely because they had been through the same hell we went through (going along with the whole Freeman effect) every step of the way, and their reactions to our actions were much the same as our own (I for one really did yell loudly when I was doing my balls to the wall run of a rooftop with Sgt Foley with a pair of green flares so we didn't get bombed by our own guys). #modernwarfare2
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That's a big title..
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2011: Call of Duty: Ghost.
2012: Call of Duty: Ghost 2
2013: Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3
2014: Call of Duty: Ghost 3
2015: Call of Duty: World at War 2
2016: Call of Duty: Iraqi Freedom
2017: Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 4
2018: Call of Duty: Iraqi Freedom 2
2019: Call of Duty: Somalia
2020: Call of Duty: Medieval Warfare #modernwarfare2
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Oh, wait. #modernwarfare2
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*SPOILER*
His and the PC's death scene was more shocking to me then the airport scene. Second time my favorite character died in MW. #modernwarfare2
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@Rem: No shit! That scene really came as a shock. Although my reaction when I was back in Soap's shoes pretty much amounted to "HELL FUCKING YEAH!!!".
It was still pretty surprising that basically the whole fucking cast of the game died except for the two survivors of the first game.
Althouhg it makes you wonder if they created the playable character of Roach solely for that one scene lol
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@Fieldy: Don't forget Hunter 2-1, they all survived. I'm guessing Foley, Dunn and Ramirez will be back for MW3. Foley is superb, he was badass. Like when he tells Dunn to shut it after he starts flipping out after the EMP!
I just hope we are back in Soap's shoes for MW3 and he and Price take down Makarov. I'm begging IW not to kill off Soap, Price, Foley, Dunn or Ramirez (or even Nikolai for that matter) but knowing them and how much they seemed to like killing off Jackson and Gaz from MW1 and Ghost and Roach from MW2 they will probably kill them all. :( #modernwarfare2
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EVEN MORE SPOILERS
I knew the twist about Shepherd, but didn't know it was going to play out that way. In terms of giving you a reason to hate someone, I think IW has explored about as many different ways to pull it off as possible. #modernwarfare2
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But frankly, I can't say I care much about them.
Just like in the original MW, for me it's all about the S.A.S. badasses! I really consider them to be the main characters of the MW story.
I enjoyed the US invasion missions ( especially the one after the EMP) but I always eagerly awaited going back to Roach and TaskForce 141.
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Another way to look at it:
- the US missions focused on the regular warfare kind of deal, like older COD titles
- the TF 141 missions had more of a Hollywood-like action movie feel to them.
I swear the shower scene during the Gulag mission was ripped straight off of the movie The Rock.
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@AceofCase: lol Red Dawn. I heard so much praise about how that movie was hilarious that when I finally watched it I thought it was the most boring piece of shit ever. It almost put me to sleep.
That being said, I did get a good laugh when I reached a certain level and saw it was called "Wolverines!" lol #modernwarfare2
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Nah, I looked it up on the Call of Duty Wiki. Gaz was shot in the head and died in MW1, Ghost is a new character just voiced by the same guy. #modernwarfare2
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I know, Gaz dies and then the guy voices a new character named Ghost who hides his face. lol
It's practically begging for a conspiracy theory-type 'urban legend' of sort.
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Don't ruin the illusion!
Hell, I'm willing to go with a freakish cyborg being brought back to life to help his friend deal if it means that there's more Gaz. #modernwarfare2
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It's called Army of Two. #modernwarfare2
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No...
Ghost Warfighter!
Nah...
Ghostbuster!
Hmm... #modernwarfare2
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People need their "fix". I can see the boycotts now. "Almost full price for an expansion! Boycott!" and then they all head to the store or Steam.
If they can wring 10 more bucks out of every copy, they will. I predict $49.99 for a 3 hour campaign. 4 new maps and that's it. #modernwarfare2
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