"insert fanboy bandwagon statement somehow connecting the pretend idea that the world's problems are all bush's fault with this post"
I digress. Not enough time or ears for current history to see or hear what the man has really done, but prophets and heroes are "without honor in their hometowns." I salute you, President Bush, even if I'm the only one left doing so.
I would agree that he is a genuinely good guy, and I think that the media has done a lot to get across the exagerated idea of him being stupid. Despite my lack of support for his party and his actions, I personally think it is disgusting how much we ridicule him.
If you dislike him, that's great. Voice your opinion, but do so with a little respect.
@2NinjasTapedTogether: Of couse not I mean this is a really big news story. This "Leno" fella may think its funny but I think its despicable that the leader of our country wastes time like this.
I'm sorry but I didn't really find that funny at all I actually felt offended as a gamer. I like to think that the stigma on games being this childish or nerdy thing is disappearing. I wish games would be accepted as just another form of entertainment the same as books, music and film.
I recently made my own blog and it had an about me section which had a favourite Films, Music and Books and I found it odd that it didn't have a favourite Games bit.
Really? They could have had his hand in a bowl of popcorn watching a movie. Or his hand halfway down his pants, ala Al Bundy, watching sports. The joke could be done with just about anything and, if you're genuinely offended by it, well ... I don't think there's anything I can do to help.
@Guy Snead: I can't say I share your offense, but as far as a debunking of games as purely nerdy/lowlife entertainment sources...it's not something that's going to happen overnight. Look at comics. How long have people been producing thoughtful comics, sometimes blown into the loftier-sounding (but still viewed the same by outsiders) "graphic novels," and yet, how many random people you asked today would regard comics as anything other than fodder for pustule-pocked tweenies to waste their summer days away with? The change in the view of comics is coming, but only gradually, spearheaded by people like Warren Ellis and Neil Gaiman and Art Spiegelman. And even someone like me who will blugeon her way through a defense of comics as a legitimate art medium, in a discussion with someone who believes otherwise, sometimes looks around her in the comic store and recoils from the company there.
It takes time.
With games, it may take longer, because people have a history of accepting static mediums before active ones...probably just because things were static--books, paintings--before they were active. Give it a few decades.
@svetlana: Interestingly enough legitimate movies based on comic books do little to get rid of its nerdy image - so I cringe imagining how far back movies like Resident Evil, Mortal Kombat, and Mario Bros push video games.
At the same time, most people growing up have some knowledge of video games, and at least know someone who plays regularly (note: citation needed). The same can't be said for comic books. The result might be completely different roads to mainstream acceptance for them.
@superapplekid: True, re: more people having familiarity with games than comics. But familiarity, frustratingly, doesn't always carry over to acceptance as readily as one would like. I've always felt a haughty disdain wafting from my academic friends toward the very idea of sitting in front of a screen that's not displaying either the Sundance or Weather channels. And to be fair, knee-jerk cries of "elitist!" from the gaming community when someone starts waxing academic aren't exactly rare either. (See comments on any number of Maggie Greene's old posts for examples.)
Until gaming stops being viewed as a lifestyle, I think, the mainstream connotations of adolescence and shiftlessness aren't going to go away. Of course there are always going to be some die-hards you'll never be able to please (like a former professor of mine who tut-tutted at the The Sims logo on her screen and rashly declared all the game's players to be possessed of inadequate emotional and social faculties that would only degenerate with time), but until it's as textbook to sit down in front of the [insert console name here] at the end of a day as it is to sit down in front of the plain old television, people are going to make snooty remarks about games as wasters of time, destroyers of our children, anathema to creativity etc. (Do people now say these things about TV? Yes, but with the exception of a Janet Jackoson-like nipple ring incident and the resulting flurry of federal activity every couple of years or so, no one really cares.)
@tralfaz23: I would agree with you, with the notable exception of Headlines. I know that Leno has nothing to do with them other than actually reading them, but these things are hilarious...
Yes, Supa S, let's ignore the fact that pretty much every major news outlet reported it as "farewell kiss, you dog!" and blame Kotaku's crack team of Arabic translators for distorting the facts. The dipshittery astounds me.
You think it's funny that someone threw a show at our President? That fact that he threw a show (of all things) or the that he hated Bush and displayed it in a incredibly stupid way.
@outlawauron: Exactly. The only reason this news is "funny" instead of frightening is because of who the President was.
Think about it...somebody with credentials who was deemed suitable to sit in on this conference took it upon himself to stand up and hurl his shoes at a world leader.
Though it's not on the same scale, imagine if Crecente got up and hurled shoes at his laptop at Kotick during an Activision presser.
Or if some angry gamer stood up during a debate and hurled something at Jack Thomson while he was speaking...
Soldier_CLE says DON'T STOP AT THE STAR! REVOKE THE WHOLE DAMN THING, OWEN!!! was starred
Soldier_CLE says DON'T STOP AT THE STAR! REVOKE THE WHOLE DAMN THING, OWEN!!! was unstarred
Soldier_CLE says DON'T STOP AT THE STAR! REVOKE THE WHOLE DAMN THING, OWEN!!! was starred
Soldier_CLE says DON'T STOP AT THE STAR! REVOKE THE WHOLE DAMN THING, OWEN!!! was unstarred
@xgarry225x: You wouldn't be saying this crap if this "president" was Castro, now would you? Of course, Castro isn't responsible for the death of a million, the destruction of a sound economy, the redefinition of torture, etc. Hell, you would've cheered if it was some Chinese politician or some unpopular politician from South Asia.
@GLaDOS: You don't REALLY want me to tell you what destroyed the American Economy, now do you? I'm no fan of Bush either, but I refuse to pin ALL of the blame on him.
It's times like this that I am happy to be an Independent.
Soldier_CLE says DON'T STOP AT THE STAR! REVOKE THE WHOLE DAMN THING, OWEN!!! was starred
Soldier_CLE says DON'T STOP AT THE STAR! REVOKE THE WHOLE DAMN THING, OWEN!!! was unstarred
Well he throws a shoe at Bush and some people think he is a hero. Imagine if he tried that with Saddam he would have already been tortured to death and dumped in a mass grave somewhere.
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The US economy is so bad, that not even the leader of the free world was willing to spring for a Pro.
12/24/08
I digress. Not enough time or ears for current history to see or hear what the man has really done, but prophets and heroes are "without honor in their hometowns." I salute you, President Bush, even if I'm the only one left doing so.
12/24/08
I would agree that he is a genuinely good guy, and I think that the media has done a lot to get across the exagerated idea of him being stupid. Despite my lack of support for his party and his actions, I personally think it is disgusting how much we ridicule him.
If you dislike him, that's great. Voice your opinion, but do so with a little respect.
12/24/08
I don't hate the guy, but I'm glad we're moving on as a country.
12/24/08
I mean, it's on the Tonight Show, when Leno's doing his jokes. It's hardly the time for serious news, no matter how real they might be.
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DOes sony give you daily blowjobs or did you drill a hole into you PS3 so you can fuck it every night?
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Right?
Right?
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I recently made my own blog and it had an about me section which had a favourite Films, Music and Books and I found it odd that it didn't have a favourite Games bit.
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Really? They could have had his hand in a bowl of popcorn watching a movie. Or his hand halfway down his pants, ala Al Bundy, watching sports. The joke could be done with just about anything and, if you're genuinely offended by it, well ... I don't think there's anything I can do to help.
12/24/08
It takes time.
With games, it may take longer, because people have a history of accepting static mediums before active ones...probably just because things were static--books, paintings--before they were active. Give it a few decades.
12/25/08
At the same time, most people growing up have some knowledge of video games, and at least know someone who plays regularly (note: citation needed). The same can't be said for comic books. The result might be completely different roads to mainstream acceptance for them.
12/26/08
Until gaming stops being viewed as a lifestyle, I think, the mainstream connotations of adolescence and shiftlessness aren't going to go away. Of course there are always going to be some die-hards you'll never be able to please (like a former professor of mine who tut-tutted at the The Sims logo on her screen and rashly declared all the game's players to be possessed of inadequate emotional and social faculties that would only degenerate with time), but until it's as textbook to sit down in front of the [insert console name here] at the end of a day as it is to sit down in front of the plain old television, people are going to make snooty remarks about games as wasters of time, destroyers of our children, anathema to creativity etc. (Do people now say these things about TV? Yes, but with the exception of a Janet Jackoson-like nipple ring incident and the resulting flurry of federal activity every couple of years or so, no one really cares.)
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Think about it...somebody with credentials who was deemed suitable to sit in on this conference took it upon himself to stand up and hurl his shoes at a world leader.
Though it's not on the same scale, imagine if Crecente got up and hurled shoes at his laptop at Kotick during an Activision presser.
Or if some angry gamer stood up during a debate and hurled something at Jack Thomson while he was speaking...
12/15/08
And besides... That dirty maggot put his shoes on OUR colors!!!
Down that infidel! Burning coals aren't enough in my opinion!!!
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God I hat that song.
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who cares if it was bush, the guys deserves prison.
you would say the same thing if it was a president you liked.
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And that man would've never been seen or heard from again.
12/15/08
It's times like this that I am happy to be an Independent.
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:)