Cutting words, but you have to put things into perspective with this sort of thing. Bill Roper went on to form Flagship Studios, who created Hellgate London, and we all know how well that game went.
Wow, time to lay off the Blizzard kool-aid, Fahey. Really unnecessary to even go there, much less the tone used. Barely related to the topic at hand, and look at all the comments... but that was probably intentional. Hellgate's failure has zero to do with his experience with the Diablo series. /facepalm
Blizz makes great games, but yikes. They aren't always right, y'know.. I agree with Roper, so far what they've shown of D3 just isn't quite like the rest of the series. And contrary to what some people are quick to say, there is nothing wrong with disliking where a series is headed. Diablo is supposed to be dark, hard to see everything in dungeons, grimy, ugly, evil. The first game had the player going to hell itself...
He said: "One of the things I always enjoyed about that separation between Blizzard and Blizzard North was that the Diablo games had a very distinct art style. They had different art directors, they had different people working on it, they had a different sensibility about them. Diablo was I think grittier and darker and a little more leaning towards the photo realistic.
This is very interesting to me, maybe if Blizzard has the same people working on multiple games, that could be the problem some gamers are interpreting as intentionally trying to make games look similar. So Blizzard might not even be trying to do this, but it may just be a byproduct of having certain people work on multiple projects.
"But it makes complete sense to me where they went because they basically took the Diablo universe and then approached it from the Blizzard Ivine stance for the visuals. That's the way they approach things. It wasn't that I looked at it and went, oh my God that looks terrible. I was like, that looks like Blizzard. The guys in Irvine. That's what it looks like to me. Their interpretation of it."
I'd bet you could count the number of commenters who read this bit on one hand... He hasn't even bashed what D3 looks like, just said that he preferred another art style. And he's right. It does resemble in some ways what Blizzard has done with Wow and other games.
I hope there's either some change forthcoming, things we haven't seen or at least one act that resembles some darker areas of the first two games, maybe D1's first dungeon, but if not it's no dealbreaker. Sorry if this is huge/messy, but I can't preview it..
I see his point, however, I think Blizzard is trying to streamline their art. It's almost a kind of branding. You see the game, and you know it's a Blizzard title.
@ThisCharmingMan: Uh... so a developer can only have one art style for all their games?
That's retarded. Blizzard used to be fairly diverse. Warcraft looked different from StarCraft which looked different from Diablo. Homogenizing all their art direction is beyond the worst idea imaginable.
@Piata: I didn't say that Blizzard is COMPELLED to use the same art for every game...however, I think it's a bit naive to state that Diablo isn't adopting more of a WOW style than a goth fantasy one. It's not the diverse color palette, but the more cartoony models that placed such an idea in my head. Just my two cents though.
@ShaggE: And all the ones who like pretty colours aren't trying to just label those people and defend there pointless view? Look at the facts, the art director was fired, the company has already told us the game gets darker later (I wonder why), the new style caused a stir among some of the fans (not all cos the others are fans too) and the original designer disagrees with the new style.
There's nothing WRONG with the new style it just doesn't perfectly fit with what some of the fans and the original producer think Diablo should be. In the end it's just like how wind waker changed graphics and it was just a gimmick. it wasn't true to the series in the end. I'm not saying D3 isn't true cos it's only a minor difference but I think it should stay gothic as it is a gothic game.
@xxXX_Insanities_Birth_XXxx: I was just joking. :p I have no opinion on Diablo 3's new art style, or the factions warring about it. As long as it's fun, I'm happy.
I wonder if Activision has anything to do with how Diablo3 is being developed. Bliz will deny it up and down that Activision has nothing to do with WoW but anyone who has played Blizzard games can notice a shift in development practices - per say.
@uppitycracker: People like their conspiracy theories even though a specific condition of the merger was that Blizzard development was not to be adjusted in any way, shape or form, and would still be a wholly independent subsidiary.
Now if only Korean developers would come to the US to make Spore live up to its expectations, recreate Red Alert 3 so it resembles a game from this decade, bring back the Homeworld series, and put Uwe Boll on trial for crimes against humanity.
03/19/09
Wow, time to lay off the Blizzard kool-aid, Fahey. Really unnecessary to even go there, much less the tone used. Barely related to the topic at hand, and look at all the comments... but that was probably intentional. Hellgate's failure has zero to do with his experience with the Diablo series. /facepalm
Blizz makes great games, but yikes. They aren't always right, y'know.. I agree with Roper, so far what they've shown of D3 just isn't quite like the rest of the series. And contrary to what some people are quick to say, there is nothing wrong with disliking where a series is headed. Diablo is supposed to be dark, hard to see everything in dungeons, grimy, ugly, evil. The first game had the player going to hell itself...
He said: "One of the things I always enjoyed about that separation between Blizzard and Blizzard North was that the Diablo games had a very distinct art style. They had different art directors, they had different people working on it, they had a different sensibility about them. Diablo was I think grittier and darker and a little more leaning towards the photo realistic.
This is very interesting to me, maybe if Blizzard has the same people working on multiple games, that could be the problem some gamers are interpreting as intentionally trying to make games look similar. So Blizzard might not even be trying to do this, but it may just be a byproduct of having certain people work on multiple projects.
"But it makes complete sense to me where they went because they basically took the Diablo universe and then approached it from the Blizzard Ivine stance for the visuals. That's the way they approach things. It wasn't that I looked at it and went, oh my God that looks terrible. I was like, that looks like Blizzard. The guys in Irvine. That's what it looks like to me. Their interpretation of it."
I'd bet you could count the number of commenters who read this bit on one hand... He hasn't even bashed what D3 looks like, just said that he preferred another art style. And he's right. It does resemble in some ways what Blizzard has done with Wow and other games.
I hope there's either some change forthcoming, things we haven't seen or at least one act that resembles some darker areas of the first two games, maybe D1's first dungeon, but if not it's no dealbreaker. Sorry if this is huge/messy, but I can't preview it..
03/18/09
*cringes*
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That's retarded. Blizzard used to be fairly diverse. Warcraft looked different from StarCraft which looked different from Diablo. Homogenizing all their art direction is beyond the worst idea imaginable.
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03/18/09
Since he is a devoted christian and what not.
(played at my school computer lab)
Seeing Diablo 3 doesn't have the same vibe the other 2 had. My dad would confuse it with WoW.
03/18/09
*LE GASP!*
03/18/09
The Diablo boards on GameFAQs should be a fun read for awhile.
03/18/09
There's nothing WRONG with the new style it just doesn't perfectly fit with what some of the fans and the original producer think Diablo should be. In the end it's just like how wind waker changed graphics and it was just a gimmick. it wasn't true to the series in the end. I'm not saying D3 isn't true cos it's only a minor difference but I think it should stay gothic as it is a gothic game.
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Well, the lie is always more entertaining than the truth. I agree with you though Blizzard was unaffected like they said.
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Also the guy who gave you Diablo 1 and 2, so give the man some respect.
You wouldnt be hard on for Diablo 3 if it was not for this man.
And with that I agree with him. As do thousands of others who saw the game for the first time.
01/26/09
Now if only Korean developers would come to the US to make Spore live up to its expectations, recreate Red Alert 3 so it resembles a game from this decade, bring back the Homeworld series, and put Uwe Boll on trial for crimes against humanity.
One can only hope.