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10/15/09
/don't really have anyone to chat with on either system #playstation3
10/14/09
Oh yeah, BC. Where's my BC?! *stomps foot*
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10/15/09
..and it's private chat, so people won't have to listen to people talking about the weather with their friends. Hopefully, it will be possible to switch channels relatively easily.. and to scramble chat between clients who are in the same game. #playstation3
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Here's why:
1) This holiday season will see the last significant retail sales of the PS2, and Sony will finally concede that they've wrung the last bit of profit from manufacturing PS2 hardware.
2) The next logical step to milk further profit from the MASSIVE back catalog of PS2 games is to resell them in download form on PSN, just like Sony does now for a whole bunch of PS1 titles. To spur sales, the pay-for-download PS2 titles on PSN could feature somewhat improved graphics, additional content, and/or Trophy support. (see below)
3) We already KNOW a software-only PS2 emulator exists because that's the engine behind the 'special edition' God of War I and God of War II bundle that is being released for the PS3 later this year. There's no way Sony re-coded those two games in their entirety to run natiive on the PS3. There is definitely a PS2 emulator under the hood, in addition to the re-rendered graphics and Trophy support.
So there you have it :-)
10/14/09
Writing emulation software for 1 game (well, really 2 games but probably a very similar code base) is a hugely different kettle of fish to writing an emulator for all games. Just look at how patchy the software emulation is in the 360, or in the partial BC in some PS3s. Not to mention that emulation from old xbox to new xbox should theoretically be quite easy, because while it is a new machine, the architecture is still basically the same. It's still basically a PC inside the box.
I suspect that we will start seeing ps2 classics on the PSN, but I expect that the emulation for each title will be custom written. Probably more of a kernal re-write using the original game assets, than a emulation, even.
10/14/09
They may find a game here and there they'd have to tweak to pass QC testing if they sold them on PSN, but the PS2 emulator code they're already sitting on is quite mature and capable.
10/15/09
1) Two PS2 chips in the box.
2) One PS2 chip in the box, the other software emulated.
3) No PS2 chips, no BC.
10/15/09
..if it had to be custom-made for every title, then it would be a slow roll-out, no doubt about that.. I suppose.. what it sounds like is that they've maybe developed a base package, and wants developers to improve on that whenever they make use of it to release a title. So that the job slowly becomes easier with each title. That would also make sure that the developers are part of the process - that it wouldn't only be a case of "publisher milking the titles for all it's possibly worth", and so on..
Anyway.. the GOW collection apparently was not using any emulation software, according to the devs. They reused the code instead.. a port.
But I'm really hoping we'll see a ps2-virtualization for all the ps3 versions reasonably soon. Sure would make my d.. decade, or something... #playstation3
10/14/09
So you say "But this is free"
So people say "But XBL is better!"
So another of the XBL features comes to PSN, and people say "But XBL already had that."
"But PSN is free"
When the features are 1:1, then people will say "But XBL has better connections."
Round and round we go.
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..mm. I used to say things like:but the memory on it is tiny anyway! It's just sprites moving! Who cares if it's got three more pixels at the end! Look at it, the effect is just blurring the objects between each frame so they look more smooth in operation!
Yeah, I never had loads of friends, by the way. :D #playstation3
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Which is a consolation to us both, I think. #playstation3
10/15/09
I would also say that an debate point would be that the 360 (except the arcade) comes with a packed in headset mic.
That and one doesn't pay for cross-game chat. #playstation3
10/14/09
I like my games for the story mode and most multiplayer games don't have the campaign in multiplayer anyway. Once that becomes the norm I will be ALL over voice chat.
With sales numbers to the like of COD, HALO and other shooters, I can see why so many are salivating at this feature.
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Your average joe wouldn't care either way.
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Oh wait, sorry, I read your post as sarcasm before I realized that taking your comment as face-value had it making sense.
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I have a "motorstorm bundle 80gb" ps3. It can play ps2 games. But Burnout, Manhunt, Bully and Frequency have been gathering dust for so long, its pretty sad. Want to play ps2 games, play them on the ps2.
10/14/09
Games are expensive, but PS2 games are much cheaper. Some people just have a few PS3 games they want to play, and still enjoy their PS2 titles and want to play them in their off time.
Is that so wrong? Maybe not wanting to shell out 60 dollars for the new FF when they can play an RPG that they missed out on original on the PS3 for a substantially cheaper price?
You say "whole library" because it's convenient for you because you know anybody who plays it that much, will just have a PS2. But what about cases like that? I'm sure everyone has tons of PS2 games that they never played but would still enjoy. And buying a PS2 simply isn't a cost-effective option.
I don't want to play it *all* the time, but I do want to play it regularly. And the fact it's a limited thing, means that it's simply not cost efficient to buy a PS2.
I don't really get why people are difficult about people who want BC. If you don't want it, fine. But there's no reason they should quiet down on the subject, just because its 'a non-factor for you.
10/14/09
Think about how that sounds for a second.
People have problems with the PS3 because it doesn't play PS2-games.
It's annoying to hear people whine about it. If one really wants to play PS2-games that badly then buy a PS2. They are cheap.
In fact, I bought a new PS2 just this summer. Which I am perfectly happy with having done.
10/15/09
No seriously he's right. It's not coming back unless you want to buy your PS2 games on the PSN someday.
10/17/09
Of course, I have the old 60GB version that has all the fancy hardware whatsits, so for me it doesn't matter. But I highly doubt that they'll remove a major selling point forever, especially when the PS2 itself loses support. #playstation3
10/18/09
Person X: Complains because a feature is missing on a game console that is something they would utilize.
You: Complaining that someone is voicing their opinion to try to get a feature that they want.
Whiner: Someone who complains about nothing.
Who do you think you are? #playstation3
10/18/09
My PS3 doesn't play PS2-games. Do I find it a pitty? Yes. But it hasn't stopped me from playing my PS2-games. Not for a second.
In fact, it let's me play more, since I can bring it with me whenever I go home for my holidays. #playstation3
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But I guess it's nice to see that Sony is taking the initiative for those who either do not have a PC near their system, no wireless headset or are too much of a troglodyte to set up a service on their PC
Though I imagine the allure of simplicity in a console drives the need, too.
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Might as well make the rumors THE announcement at this rate.
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