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    Guitar Hero CEO: Rhythm Gaming Market Not Saturated

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    Image of Odin Odin
    09/22/09

    In reply to Guitar Hero CEO: Rhythm Gaming Market Not Saturated
    Unfortunately he doesn't seem to realise is that the majority of that 80% are out of reach. The 20% that is their market is maybe one more franchise (considering the main 3, GH, DJH and Rock Band) from being saturdated.
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    Image of kojirodensetsu kojirodensetsu
    09/21/09

    In reply to Guitar Hero CEO: Rhythm Gaming Market Not Saturated
    The problem is that companies (like activision) keep releasing sequels to these games. The ideal thing to do would be to get the mechanics so they're good and not crappy, and then just release a bunch of DLC and keep doing that. When I heard about Guitar Hero 5 I was like "wtf why do we need another one?"
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    Image of Tyr4nt Tyr4nt
    09/21/09

    In reply to Guitar Hero CEO: Rhythm Gaming Market Not Saturated
    Let's analyze that 80% and see what percentage has no interest in music & rhythm games. A lot of people only play shooters or only play RPG's or only play sports games. Car buffs are only gonna want to play games like Forza and Gran Turismo. Sure their are people that are more diverse but those people are in the 20% that already own a music game.

    I've been sick of glorified "Simon Says" for a long time now and haven't bought a music/rhythm game after the first Rock Band and I have no intention of buying another one. Guitar Hero is just one of the many things I hate about Activision but pretty much everything comes back to Bobby Kotick.
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    Image of cwbys21 cwbys21
    09/21/09

    In reply to Guitar Hero CEO: Rhythm Gaming Market Not Saturated
    Got to love all the people who think they know how to run a company better than the people that actually are running a billion dollar company, and doing it quite well. Face it, rhythm games are a fad that will only last so long. Activision is doing the right thing by milking it for every penny they can while it lasts.
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    Image of Bouchart Bouchart
    09/21/09

    @cwbys21: Gotta love the CEO's that think they can run a billion dollar company and run it into the ground. We've seen a lot of those lately so excuse us peons if we are skeptical.
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    Image of Kalapusa Kalapusa
    09/21/09

    @cwbys21: Precisely my problem with Activision. They have no faith in their own brand. They don't see it lasting very long so they milk it rather than find ways to make it last.

    And give me a break on the fad thing. People still sing karaoke, we still play fighting games, we are still playing WWII games. The genres have their peak, then they sit with their lasting audiences. Rock Band will always be fun to me as long as I have a fresh new batch of good music, a few friends to play with, and enough beers.
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    Image of Joseph Melan Joseph Melan
    09/21/09

    In reply to Guitar Hero CEO: Rhythm Gaming Market Not Saturated

    Complete
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    Image of LeepNasty LeepNasty
    09/21/09

    In reply to Guitar Hero CEO: Rhythm Gaming Market Not Saturated
    The way she pronounced "console" removed any credibility she may have possessed. And on that point, I cannot be consoled.
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    Image of zepplinmike zepplinmike
    09/21/09

    In reply to Guitar Hero CEO: Rhythm Gaming Market Not Saturated
    Wait a second.... the bosses at Activision actually know what market saturation is?!?!

    Based on their activities, I was pretty sure they all skipped the business school class on market saturation and brand dilution.

    I'll bet this guy had to look it up in the dictionary before he went on CNBC.
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    Image of Bouchart Bouchart
    09/21/09

    @zepplinmike: Not only do the bosses at Activision know what market saturation, they invented it.
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    09/21/09

    @Bouchart- senior Fellow at the American Smartological Institute: [instantrimshot.com]
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    Image of robpe36 robpe36
    09/21/09

    In reply to Guitar Hero CEO: Rhythm Gaming Market Not Saturated
    This year alone they're releasing Guitar Hero Metallica, Guitar Hero Smash Hits, Guitar Hero On Tour: Modern Hits, Guitar Hero 5, DJ Hero, Band Hero, and Guitar Hero Van Halen. That's seven games this year for one franchise. And three of those are going to have expensive $100+ big bundle boxes on retail store shelves.

    But is it saturated? Nah... =\
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    Image of Jekku Jekku
    09/21/09

    In reply to Guitar Hero CEO: Rhythm Gaming Market Not Saturated
    Many retailers around my area had stacks and stacks of Guitar Hero: World Tour bundles sitting around until the prices were literally cut in half.

    It is saturated but if companies would just lower the prices, then I'm sure these games would sell a lot better.
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    Image of cutmaclass cutmaclass
    09/21/09

    @Jekku: When Circuit City closed there were literally multiple sections of the store that had stacks of hundreds of Guitar Hero guitars and bundles being sold off in clearance.
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    Image of RawSteelUT RawSteelUT
    09/21/09

    @cutmaclass: I remember that. There were huge stacks of pretty much every post-2 Guitar Hero game. The Guitar Hero 2 for 360 bundles were in two stacks, one as tall as me (I'm 5'11")
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    Image of RockyRan RockyRan
    09/21/09

    In reply to Guitar Hero CEO: Rhythm Gaming Market Not Saturated
    Well what do you know? The CEO of a company responsible for saturation of the market pretends like it's not saturated. What a surprise!

    What did anybody expect, for Rosensweig to say "yeah, we're kinda devolving the franchise into a shovelware fad. Oops!"

    This is actually an indication that they ARE saturating the market. If they truly weren't they wouldn't be talking about it.
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    Image of excel_excel excel_excel
    09/21/09

    In reply to Guitar Hero CEO: Rhythm Gaming Market Not Saturated
    you know, theres a reason why the Tonk Hawks games stopped selling so well. And it wasn't because there was lots of other fucking skate boarding games. It was because they so many TONY HAWKS GAMES in such a short time.
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    Image of Demonbird Demonbird
    09/21/09

    In reply to Guitar Hero CEO: Rhythm Gaming Market Not Saturated
    Yet every Walmart, Target, Best Buy, Costco, and Gamestop Have hundreds if not thousands of pounds worth of old music game stock on the floor, or the back room.
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    Image of Curse lily Curse lily
    09/21/09

    @Demonbird: I work at Target and you're absolutely correct.

    Last week there was a pallet of them at the store where i work, we had to sent it to another store just because we were loaded with them.
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    Image of Demonbird Demonbird
    09/21/09

    @Curse lily:
    I worked at a gamestop,and when I left in June we had dozens of guitar bundles, and at least ten of the big boxes. My local best buy had a pile against a wall, two bundles deep, and about fifteen feet high of band kits, then a 5 foot tall, twenty foot long pile of guitar bundles.
    Dating back to guitar hero 2.
    If I had a store, I would only stock guitar hero or rock band on order.
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    Image of Curse lily Curse lily
    09/21/09

    @Demonbird: We kind of do actually, they make a report when a shelf or the stock room is low on that item.

    It was probably a mistake, but we had to split the pallet in to two and send one part to a store in Brooklyn and the other one to Hicksville.
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    Image of TheShape TheShape
    09/21/09

    In reply to Guitar Hero CEO: Rhythm Gaming Market Not Saturated
    Wait, there's a Guitar Hero CEO now?

    Is there a Halo and Call of Duty CEO too? ;)
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    Image of Yossarian Yossarian
    09/21/09

    @TheShape: The name "Guitar Czar" would have been so much cooler.
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    Image of (Human) Gyaruson (Human) Gyaruson
    09/21/09

    @Yossarian:
    +1 awesome points for you, sir.
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    Image of CockroachMan CockroachMan
    09/21/09

    In reply to Guitar Hero CEO: Rhythm Gaming Market Not Saturated
    Nope, the market for RYTHM GAMES is not saturated. The market for PLASTIC INSTRUMENT GAMES WITH NOTES COMING ON RAILS is!

    I wish we could have less Guitar Hero clones and more original and creative Rythm Games like Rhythm Heaven, EBA and Guitaroo Man. I never get tired of those.
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    Image of excel_excel excel_excel
    09/21/09

    @CockroachMan: Well said.
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    Image of SuicidalEarthworm SuicidalEarthworm
    09/21/09

    In reply to Guitar Hero CEO: Rhythm Gaming Market Not Saturated
    Well hell, maybe the other 80 percent don't give a rat ass about music games. I mean after all, we are gamers....we want games in the first place that's why we bought a game console. I do not think people buy a console specifically to play music games and not play games. So that's all you're going to get 20%. Screw music games....I don't like it, I'm never getting these GH and RB games. You just have to realize that most people with a game console wants to play non music games.
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    Image of Yossarian Yossarian
    09/21/09

    @SuicidalEarthworm: Or maybe the other 80% is like me and has pinkies that don't work.

    The games might be fun, but I can't play anything other than easy, due to a severe lack of small digit dexterity. All those buttons scare me.
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