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Jesus SE, screw up less please. Kthxbai. #finalfantasyxiv
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@Jennacide: Psh, this is a gladiator #finalfantasyxiv
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Pugilist does look awesome though, and through my complaints, I am indeed going to end up playing this... I'm such a SE whore. #finalfantasyxiv
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They're a Warrior if anything, but not a Paladin. #finalfantasyxiv
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didnt think i'd actually have to point that out, my bad.
but yeh, was just going on the looks for the initial "thats what popped into my head" #finalfantasyxiv
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I was a bit confused at first too when they said "Gladiator and Pugilist", but the picture was of a "Pugilist and Gladiator". #finalfantasyxiv
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Those characters look pretty sweet.
I always wanted to try the XI, but I could never get the free trial to work and I didn't want to commit to buying the game straight up.
Hopefully this gets a trial I can use which, if its some good shit, I will then go onto making it a full purchase. #finalfantasyxiv
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[www.dreampiece.com] #finalfantasyxiv
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Thanks! #finalfantasyxiv
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Why can't I get a mage wearing some kind of Vegas styled tux? #finalfantasyxiv
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Also, FFXIV is being ported to the PS3. Meaning this game is built with Windows in mind. #finalfantasyxiv
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And if you've -really- played from NA PC launch on, then you should notice the massive improvements that 11 has had. BTW, I know people who played from day 1 of beta in Japan. and have all jobs to 75. So by your logic, they trump you, right? #finalfantasyxiv
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And hey, if it isn't enjoyable, I might even stop playing XIV. I do have that choice! #finalfantasyxiv
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@Baeshin - you obviously have never played another MMO if you think the FFXI expansions were an 'obscene' amount of content - in fact they didn't release a single completed expansion, how many years did it take PUP and BLU to get AF2, I think the answer is two? As far as their customer service goes you'd be in the minority there - and customer service isn't just the drone you get on the phone (and their phone reps are a crapshot but that's true for a lot of phone reps) - it's community support and communication - a field in which SE greatly lacked. Quick run down on your points 1) Story - Pretty good, I give that to SE. 2) Content - sparse and repetitive, the fact that people still farm sky and the kings is enough to speak to that, they've only recently begun to even try to remedy that. Games like WoW (hate to use it but it's true) release the same or more content in a major patch than SE releases in an expansion. 3) Game play - is slow and clunky, and most of the game is simply a grind-fest, when you're not LFG. Also pretty much every fight in the game, endgame or otherwise, is a simple tank and spank (a term most FFXI players don't even know because it's all they do). Google how to fight Lady Vashj and watch some videos. The amount of coordination and teamwork required for most other endgame MMO content is vastly superior to FFXI. 4) Community, while not fraught with 12 year olds like XBL or some groups in WoW, it is full of elitist pricks - unfortunately the game's ultracool and job system which I adore - forces apart the community due to the small loot tables. Regardless opinion is opinion. My point again was simply, if you've played lots of MMOs and SE's offline games - don't be heartbroken if you're greatly disappointed. #finalfantasyxiv
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FF14 Gladiator = FF11 Paladin
FF14 Marauder = FF11 Warrior
FF14 Lancer = FF11 Dragoon
FF14 Archer = FF11 Ranger
As far as I can tell. Pugilist is a nice twist on the monk name I think.
www.merriam-webster.com defines
Pugilist as : fighter; especially : a professional boxer #finalfantasyxiv
11/11/09
Its neat to see how people are interpreting the new roles. For a while there I thought they were sticking with FFTactics/Ivalice type names which were pretty self explanatory.
I am still not used to the Armory idea, or even the possibility of mix-matching on the fly without visiting the MH. I wonder if these are even just the core classes and new names are developed when you intertwine them. Can't wait! #finalfantasyxiv
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Pugilist makes a hell of a lot more sense as a name for a fighter than "Monk". Do you want to call white mages nuns? #finalfantasyxiv
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Don't get me wrong though, I wish they would just make a proper Monk instead. #finalfantasyxiv
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i love that movie.
+1 #finalfantasyxiv
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I don't exactly understand how it's hard to go "That guy is a pugilist." You seem to be implying it's REALLY REALLY hard to remember new names so I can't imagine you can handle games with their own stories, or their own battle systems, their own items, their own characters, their own worlds.
If you can't add one new group of those things to your mind, then I don't suggest playing any more games than what you own, because that sounds like a serious memory problem and you should avoid it. #finalfantasyxiv
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I'm alright with things being renamed, but there are such things as "better than it was before" and "worse than it was before." Fistfighter or even Boxer would have been better options, had they really not wanted to use Monk as the class name. It's -okay- not to feel forced to use Pugilist just because the word is the most archaic of the choices.
The thing is, here's what I don't get about it. Square seems to feel the need to rename everything, so it can have its "own identity," and yet...why did they basically just make all the same races from FFXI for FFXIV, but with different names, if they really wanted shit to be different? And if they wanted stuff to be similar enough to be familiar, why not carry over more class names? I'm in a quandary on that, my friend. #finalfantasyxiv
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There are these "Jobs" in the game based on previous Final Fantasy titles, silly I know. Some of these "Jobs" were there when it was released 7 years ago with "Monk" and "Warrior" being among those core Jobs. So you could say that people have been playing "Monk" and... yup "Warrior" for... 7 YEARS. Long time right?
There is a slight possibility that some previous FFXI players (There are a lot of them) might say something along the lines of "Monk and War renamed. Sigh." Especially when the job they have been playing for 7 years is renamed a freakin "Pugilist"...!
Thank you though, your insulting nature has inspired me to write a long an eloquent letter to SquareEnix, suggesting "Merkin" as the new name for Whitemages. #finalfantasyxiv
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Um, a name change is not a big deal, and you were acting like it would be hell to remember some new names, which it would not be. #finalfantasyxiv
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They kept things the same but named differently because they didn't want to get bogged down by the old world. This makes it easier for newer players who aren't familiar with Vanadiel to pick up the game. FFXI veterans will still know them by their old labels; a Taru BLM is still a Tarutaru Blackmage even if they're now officially Lalafell Thaumaturge. #finalfantasyxiv
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However, as you pointed out so clearly FFXIV is basically FFXI: Redux. The Classes, the Races, the Beasts, the concept of Beastmen and many other longstanding principles of FFXI have been simply... redone.
You can changed the name of a Mithran Monk to a Miqo'te Puglist, but honestly is that really adding any new dimension here? Hardly. #finalfantasyxiv
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Still, if the Armory System is any good, I guess I can't complain too much. #finalfantasyxiv
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I suppose it just comes down to how well they implement it. #finalfantasyxiv
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So yeah, if they stick with the 'alternative' FF classes (Priest/Wizard for WM/BM?) that won't be so bad. At least not as bad as taking entirely new class names for everything. #finalfantasyxiv
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Still, "Lancer" just sounds to me like a generic spear user. The writeup on the website doesn't mention any of their dragon powers or anything. #finalfantasyxiv
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Besides, I associate Dragoon with any Lance user (and with the ability Jump) in FF games. Certainly the originals didn't have a Dragon sidekick or whatnot. #finalfantasyxiv
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I just don't want to see the classes feeling generic. They don't feel Final Fantasy to me yet. At all. #finalfantasyxiv
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I suppose it is hard to differentiate a class from its direct forebear without changing the name - or you'll get people whining "Monks should be like this (what they are in FFXI)!". A new name shows a new direction.
But yeah, as I said in my first reply, I would prefer it if they game stuck to its strengths and went all-out FF. #finalfantasyxiv
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I guess you never played FF11 so I'll clue you in on a very, very basic rule of thumb for Squaresoft MMOs: jobs with pets/summons/etc receive swift kicks in the nuts daily. It took 3 years for DRG, 6 for SMN to almost become useful. They've yet to release the Beastmaster Job to the beta-testing public. #finalfantasyxiv
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Lost interest. #finalfantasyxiv
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Oh, and as someone who's been playing a while, RDM is NOT a class I'd recommend starting with. Too many spells/equips/skills to train per level, that would easily discourage a newcomer.
Also, you can pick your server now.
Like I said, meet me in in and I'll be happy to help you have a better experience! :)
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