And there is still people that say sports games are going downhill because they are released every year, they are glorified roster updates etc, etc, etc ...
Like it or not until 4.5 million people agree with you and stop buying these titles yearly, EA will continue to make a killing off their sports titles.
As a CEO of a company (in this case EA) would you put a stop to yearly releases if they were selling these type of numbers??
@jedi420: Whilst I think FIFA 10 is a fantastic game, and I spend a lot of time playing sports games, it remains true that popularity does not necessarily imply quality.
@dd528: True enough, it's just that I've heard a lot of people calling for a new business model other than the yearly release for sports titles... However when you see the sale figures for them, it's just not realistic to expect EA or any other company to change.
I'm sure between FIFA, Madden, Tiger Woods, NHL, and NBA Live, there is a silly amount of profit being made.
So for quality purposes, it's okay to wish that things might change from the current distribution method, but until EA discovers a new way to make even more money off these titles things will stay the same.
I'm not surprised it sold so well. It's a fantastic game and I'm glad to be one of the people who bought the game and is contributing to that 4.5 Million.
Wow, I really do need to go and buy this I guess. I was going to last venture to GameStop buy that slick sales rep told me about the buy 2 get 1 sale! After that I picked up Red Faction, Ninja Gaiden 2 Sigma, and Call of Juarez.
@excel_excel: Sadly, I agree.. Pro just tried to cram way to many movement-animations.. I put it on the floor, Pro Evo 5 (ps2) on top of it, and a giant boulder on top of that.
I'm hoping some of Pro 5 will rub off on that abomination
@D-K, Anarchist: Yeah. Pro Evo 5 was the pinnacle and it seemed every one since then just is just getting worse, wheras every version of in the last few years Fifa has improved.
@excel_excel: Wow someone on the internet speaking sense about Pro Ev and FIFA.
You have my respect, I concur that PES5 was the pinnacle and it has been downhill from there.
I turned my back on Konami when seabass was quoted before the release of PES2009 saying that "Our fans are looking for fast paced arcade action, and not a full on realistic simulator like our competitors product"..........Sorry Seabass but I used to buy PES BECAUSE it was the most "realistic" "simulation" of football.
I don't know where Konami got this idea, but whoever gave it to them deserves shooting.
@excel_excel: Yeah I read it over on Joystiq, but I'm 99% positive the quote was posted on here as well.
I literally couldn't believe what I was reading and had to check the full press release at the time, but he said it alright, and my PES love died that day.
@Azures: The "fans" are more vicious than the players, if Europe is any indication. Rioting is not an acceptable course of action over a meaningless game.
Really, there is no excuse for the death and property damage these events cause.
@SacGamer: We take some pride in our game. Maybe too much. but you have to realize, its like the whole Ford/GM thing in Austrailia. some people are born to a team or sport, and so anything less then perfection can piss them off.
@SacGamer: See it is EASY for you to make up preconvuluted arguments because you have no exposure to the real circumstances. Ill send you on a one way ticket to England for a Arsenal/Man U final and watch how pissed off/ fucking excited everyone can get.
Your basing your arguments off of having NO prior exposure to this, and I have had so I can say this is one of those "in the moment, too far" things that no one bother rationalizing or being logical about.
@Fluorine: Cough cough losing it 4-3 to the sharks when the game was in the bag cough cough.
I wanted to jump over the glass and beat the shit out of the first oiler I saw.
Its one thing to concede and admit that the other team did do a better job capitalizing but its something completely different when your hometeams TALENT is chokeing and losing.
@aniteshj: Like I said, stupid. There is no justification for that behavior. If a sport can cause you to do those terrible things, you are not a smart/good human being.
@SacGamer: Wow, that's... harsh. He never said he DID that, because he'd probably be in prison right now. He simply said that his frustration with their performance made him feel like doing it.
People get worked up about sports. People get just as worked up about video games. Hell, they even get just as worked up about the machines videogames are played on, not even the games themselves. And now, thanks to you, I see people also get worked up about talking about people talking about videogames.
@SacGamer: Don't get me wrong: I am in complete agreement with your stance on violence.
In my mind there is no rational excuse for violence, other than war, and in general the justifications for most wars are pretty weak in the stark light of day. Let us say, instead, defending yourself from an agressor in wartime.
Are sports events something people should feel unsafe at? Because I sure wouldn't feel safe.
I feel the same way about mosh pits at concerts. Bunch of stupid fools. It sucks that I can't see my favorite artists up close unless I want broken bones or possibly death. That's not fun. And that's the whole reason I bought my ticket, fun.
I hate that whenever a football game is posted on a site shared by American viewers they have a go because we call it "football" and they don't like it.
If you think about it, which of the two games primarily uses feet to control the ball?
I feel better for saying this now. I just had to get it off my chest. I think I will be able to sleep sound tonight.
I love the soccer pitch at EAC, everytime I see people down there playing football, Im reminded of how passionate the people working here are. Very inspiring stuff.
The game needs a hand of god mode to complete the realism.
If you don't know what I mean, look up Maradona from Argentina and Thierry Henry from France's national team. Maradona's being the original hand of god.
@bean: i never said it was fair. to be honest, I thought that was a really stupid non-call by the arbiter/ref. The Irish deserved at least a draw, they played really strong.
The only sports game I ever tried to like was Madden (it's popular, it must be good right!) But I found I didn't do much of anything and what I did I couldn't understand.
I never knew so much dedication went into these games. Honestly I'm willing to give Fifa 10 a shot after reading this.
I dumbly assumed it was just a bunch of jocks that happened to be forced to make a game that knocked these EA Sports titles out.
@jello44: As I said, I was dumb for assuming that.
Had I given that thought any consideration I'd have known I was an idiot.
But the level of comitment articulated in this article is far and above anything I could have guessed at. Live matches being streamed? Feedback from over 1000 hardcore fans? I'd have never thought and thus is what makes me think, maybe, this would be fun to pick up.
That's my one reservation, how accessible is Fifa for someone like myself that knows next to nothing about the sport. How much involvement in the game do I actually have? How much time is spend playing the sport and how much is spent planning or doing none game related things? I suppose I should pick this up and find out when it hits (when does it "hit?")
@Friedhamster: Rutter seems to have played a massive part in the series revival, there was a time it was poor. It's very easy to jump straight into, there's matchday, cups, a 'manager mode' if you want to take your team through seasons/sign players etc. And very good sliding difficulties that you can adjust as you feel confident. You can spend as little time on planning as you want, or as much.
@TearsandScreams: But when you get down to actually playing how much is in my hands? That's what I'm worried about.
In Madden I felt as though all I did was pick a play and watch. I didn't seem to do anything at all and if I did it was all over so fast I had no idea what I'd done during the play.
I know football plays far differently than U.S. Football, but in the game, what do I do? Everything? Control my player? Can I switch to others? Will the goal tender do work on his own or do I need to quickly switch to him to stop a ball?
These must seem like such stupid questions, but I truly have no idea.
@Friedhamster: You control all players except the goalkeeper. If the game is moving too fast, you can slow the game down in the menu, there are a lot of sliding scales etc. The game will auto switch players for you to the one nearest the ball, however this can be disabled in the options menu, so you have to select players yourself if you wish. You also control players when you're not in possession to hassle the opposition into making a mistake or tackling them (hopefully cleanly). If you're not willing to take too much of a gamble on a genre you might not enjoy, last year's iteration is by no means a bad game, and in the tradition of football games can be picked up very cheap now this year's is out. As regards to the goalkeeper, the only control you have is rushing him off his line, saves etc are all out of your hand.
@Friedhamster: I don't have FIFA 10, but in 09, which I do have, you have a lot of control over what you do and do not do. There's a fully-manual mode that turns off all of the in-game assists, too. You can either switch to always be the player with the ball or on point for defense (in single-player, of course), or you can go into the "Be a Pro" mode that has you control only one player throughout his "career." I've only ever controlled the goalie during penalty kicks, myself - not sure if you can take more control than that, but I don't think you can.
With soccer being so much more free-form than American football, I think you'll probably find it more immersive if you have an open mind towards the sport.
@fiveone: I had an open mind about Madden. It was a very closed and 'do this, now' and 'do that, then' game. I'll definitely need to give FIFA 10 a try.
Well, my short little statement was more of a you shouldn't assume because it makes an ass out of u and me. Anyway..
I'm glad that the article has peaked your interest in the game. And you are at least willing to try it out before giving out an opinion and aren't one of the "same game each year" crowd. It's out now btw, Amazon had it for about 40 bucks the other day. I think Best Buy has a deal on it as well. (If you are in the states that is).
As others have said, you don't need as much knowledge to play it as Madden, it certainly does help though.
Most of my criticisms with the game come from the menus, the off-pitch stuff, and the be a pro mode. There were also a few memory giltches where things (accomplishments for example) would register as done but the rewards from them wouldn't be available.
They could just fix that crap and keep the in-game mostly the same and I'd be happy enough to buy FIFA 11.
Soccer videogames are about 100X more interesting than the actual sport is. I'd say it's not true to the real thing, because the real thing is a boring, diving, mess.
@Bubbleman!: I actually single-teared when i totally netted a 43 meter shot with adriano..
projection, angle, direction, speed, power, swirve... it all came together in a culmination of poetic grace, subtle beauty and carried with it a grand humbling effect.
We were high at the time, but it was really, seriously, that great a shot.
@D-K, stubbed his toe..*swears*: I don't know who are what an "adriano" is but that's cool man. That sounded more action-packed than any soccer ive ever seen on tv.
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12/01/09
Like it or not until 4.5 million people agree with you and stop buying these titles yearly, EA will continue to make a killing off their sports titles.
As a CEO of a company (in this case EA) would you put a stop to yearly releases if they were selling these type of numbers??
12/02/09
12/02/09
I'm sure between FIFA, Madden, Tiger Woods, NHL, and NBA Live, there is a silly amount of profit being made.
So for quality purposes, it's okay to wish that things might change from the current distribution method, but until EA discovers a new way to make even more money off these titles things will stay the same.
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12/01/09
I'm hoping some of Pro 5 will rub off on that abomination
12/01/09
AND GET THAT BOULDER OFF PRO EVO 5!
12/01/09
You have my respect, I concur that PES5 was the pinnacle and it has been downhill from there.
I turned my back on Konami when seabass was quoted before the release of PES2009 saying that "Our fans are looking for fast paced arcade action, and not a full on realistic simulator like our competitors product"..........Sorry Seabass but I used to buy PES BECAUSE it was the most "realistic" "simulation" of football.
I don't know where Konami got this idea, but whoever gave it to them deserves shooting.
12/01/09
12/01/09
I literally couldn't believe what I was reading and had to check the full press release at the time, but he said it alright, and my PES love died that day.
11/27/09
Soccer ain't beautiful. It's vicious.
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11/27/09
Really, there is no excuse for the death and property damage these events cause.
11/27/09
I would know.
Fucking Edmonton Oilers.
11/27/09
There is no valid defense for that behavior. None. You'd have to be a sociopath to think that sort of behavior is acceptable.
Really. I don't see how any sane human being could justify people losing their lives or valuable property over a sport...
Rioting is not an act of pride. It is an act of evil.
11/28/09
Your basing your arguments off of having NO prior exposure to this, and I have had so I can say this is one of those "in the moment, too far" things that no one bother rationalizing or being logical about.
11/28/09
The one thing we knew how to do was muff a decent lead and win it in shootout, and now we don't even have that.
11/28/09
I wanted to jump over the glass and beat the shit out of the first oiler I saw.
Its one thing to concede and admit that the other team did do a better job capitalizing but its something completely different when your hometeams TALENT is chokeing and losing.
11/28/09
11/28/09
People get worked up about sports. People get just as worked up about video games. Hell, they even get just as worked up about the machines videogames are played on, not even the games themselves. And now, thanks to you, I see people also get worked up about talking about people talking about videogames.
11/28/09
In my mind there is no rational excuse for violence, other than war, and in general the justifications for most wars are pretty weak in the stark light of day. Let us say, instead, defending yourself from an agressor in wartime.
11/28/09
[sportsillustrated.cnn.com]
Are sports events something people should feel unsafe at? Because I sure wouldn't feel safe.
I feel the same way about mosh pits at concerts. Bunch of stupid fools. It sucks that I can't see my favorite artists up close unless I want broken bones or possibly death. That's not fun. And that's the whole reason I bought my ticket, fun.
11/27/09
I would love to play on that pitch.
Good Stuff.
11/27/09
11/27/09
If you think about it, which of the two games primarily uses feet to control the ball?
I feel better for saying this now. I just had to get it off my chest. I think I will be able to sleep sound tonight.
11/27/09
11/27/09
We call it Soccer Football :D There won't be any misunderstandings, nosiree.
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11/27/09
Welllll
Soccer comes from the slang for "association football". So technically, they're both correct.
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11/27/09
If you don't know what I mean, look up Maradona from Argentina and Thierry Henry from France's national team. Maradona's being the original hand of god.
11/28/09
:(
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11/27/09
I never knew so much dedication went into these games. Honestly I'm willing to give Fifa 10 a shot after reading this.
I dumbly assumed it was just a bunch of jocks that happened to be forced to make a game that knocked these EA Sports titles out.
#speakout
11/27/09
Yup, because as you very well know. Only jocks watch/play sports.
Oh wait...
11/27/09
Had I given that thought any consideration I'd have known I was an idiot.
But the level of comitment articulated in this article is far and above anything I could have guessed at. Live matches being streamed? Feedback from over 1000 hardcore fans? I'd have never thought and thus is what makes me think, maybe, this would be fun to pick up.
That's my one reservation, how accessible is Fifa for someone like myself that knows next to nothing about the sport. How much involvement in the game do I actually have? How much time is spend playing the sport and how much is spent planning or doing none game related things? I suppose I should pick this up and find out when it hits (when does it "hit?")
Oh, wait, it is out. Now? Huh. Well then.
11/27/09
11/27/09
In Madden I felt as though all I did was pick a play and watch. I didn't seem to do anything at all and if I did it was all over so fast I had no idea what I'd done during the play.
I know football plays far differently than U.S. Football, but in the game, what do I do? Everything? Control my player? Can I switch to others? Will the goal tender do work on his own or do I need to quickly switch to him to stop a ball?
These must seem like such stupid questions, but I truly have no idea.
11/27/09
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11/27/09
With soccer being so much more free-form than American football, I think you'll probably find it more immersive if you have an open mind towards the sport.
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11/27/09
Well, my short little statement was more of a you shouldn't assume because it makes an ass out of u and me. Anyway..
I'm glad that the article has peaked your interest in the game. And you are at least willing to try it out before giving out an opinion and aren't one of the "same game each year" crowd. It's out now btw, Amazon had it for about 40 bucks the other day. I think Best Buy has a deal on it as well. (If you are in the states that is).
As others have said, you don't need as much knowledge to play it as Madden, it certainly does help though.
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11/27/09
They could just fix that crap and keep the in-game mostly the same and I'd be happy enough to buy FIFA 11.
11/27/09
Also, i want the referee-strictness slider back.
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11/27/09
projection, angle, direction, speed, power, swirve... it all came together in a culmination of poetic grace, subtle beauty and carried with it a grand humbling effect.
We were high at the time, but it was really, seriously, that great a shot.
11/27/09
Like I said, the games are always really fun.
11/27/09
Seriously.. the man leaves trenches in the field as he shoots. It's fantastic.