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Clark D Rutledge
09/24/09

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I feel cheated when DLC is announced prior to the Game being released.
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NoBullet
09/24/09

@Clark D Rutledge: DLC is being announced AFTER the game has been finished. Its already done.
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heimbachae
09/24/09

In reply to Forza 3 Getting Ferrari DLC
hey, GT, take note of this, it doesn't take YEARS to put a car into the game with damage rendering, oh and this game is still on track to release next month NOT NEXT YEAR.
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Vylen
09/24/09

@heimbachae: but it takes years to put more cars into a game....
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FP_slomo788
09/24/09

@heimbachae: Yea, except it took T10 the same amount of time (4 years) to get a GT5 equivalent. And did you miss the "not free" part?
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heimbachae
09/24/09

@FP_slomo788: and how much $$ is being spent through development at polyphony????

note: GT: Prologue anyone? What was that, but a glorified DLC?
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hodayathink wants WWFRD back!
09/24/09

@heimbachae: Acutally, it was a glorified Demo. Get it right.
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NoBullet
09/24/09

@Vylen: GT's definition of more cars: Count the same car with or without stripes as 2 cars.
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NoBullet
09/24/09

@FP_slomo788: Uh, it didnt say it was "not free". They just said it wasnt mentioned.
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Pessimippopotamus
09/24/09

@FP_slomo788: To be fair, T10 recycles old car models for new games.
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Pepek
09/24/09

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Well, after seeing the GT5 ferrari trailer yesterday... this one was good, but that GT5 one... now that was a work of art, simply beautiful
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NoBullet
09/24/09

@Pepek: Forza 3's actually looks like a tribute to the car maker. GT5 just looked like a car commercial.

Work of art. Get over yourself.
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Pessimippopotamus
09/24/09

@Pepek: And it's rendered specifically for the video only, not the game itself.
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Pepek
09/25/09

@NoBullet: Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't know your opinion was a FACT... take your own advice kid.
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Pepek
09/25/09

@Pessimippopotamus: And? Am I saying something different?

It's funny, someone mentions that he liked one of the trailers for the same car more and a little while later there's a horde of people arguing about something COMPLETELY unrelated.

Once again: I. Don't. Give. A. Shit. 2 trailers, same car, same idea. One is better. FOR ME, it's the GT5 one. By far.
Now, take your little Forza vs. GT war somewhere else.
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Psudonym
09/24/09

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I bet I can crash it...

:)
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mintycrys is HOT for Bayonetta
09/16/09

In reply to Forza 3: So Many Ferraris
When this game hits shelves, It's custom soundtrack all the way.

And by "custom soundtrack", I mean lots of Magical Sound Shower and Night Flight.

This is paradise,

it is very nice.
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Pessimippopotamus
09/16/09

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The Enzo's nose is rendered wrong. I know it's very small detail, but I go crazy over stuff like that.
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crespo
09/16/09

@Pessimippopotamus: it's a field of view effect from the in-game photo mode. the in-game model is spot on compared to real-life.

link to post

"Che" works for T10, community manager, he took the actual pictures we're lookin at.
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John Krewson
09/16/09

@Pessimippopotamus: Jalop! I knew there'd be at least one in here pointing out that misdrawn schnozz.
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Pessimippopotamus
09/17/09

@John Krewson: I don't understand. They're supposed to have grid-scanned this car, no? Why are all the proportions and the details wrong on the nose?
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Pessimippopotamus
09/17/09

@crespo: It's not the field of view. The badge is too big, the distance between the headlight the gap to the leading edge of the bumper is all wrong.

And even on #4, you can see the error on the chicken wire grille effect. The Enzo has it further in the bumper. Also, there's no cutline between the pointy part of the nose and the piece that connects it to the lower portion of the bumper.

It disappoints me because if they used the same technology that they used to scan the Veyron, they wouldn't have this weird error.

I have a terrible inkling that this is just an upgrade of the Forza 2 model.
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Pyrefly
09/16/09

In reply to Forza 3: So Many Ferraris
I don't get how so many people can think these shots are photorealistic. They are really good and T10 has come a long way since Forza 2 but these are just so sterile,flat,shiny and the lighting is way way off for reality. This is going to be a day 1 purchase for me along with GT5 but please people, stop giving these image more credit than they are due.
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Pessimippopotamus
09/16/09

@Pyrefly: In many shots, they do look photorealistic. But in many shots, as you said, they look flat.

Also the panel gaps on the F40 are waaaaaay too narrow to be realistic.
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fuchikoma
09/16/09

@Pyrefly: Yeah, it's always been that way to me. Gran Turismo looks spot-on, at the risk of coming off a little clinical. Forza looks as detailed, but the lighting makes it look more like a magazine ad or something - it's not photorealistic, but it seems a little spiced up.
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sentroshi
09/16/09

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How come screenshots look so real, but when I actually play the game in motion, it doesn't look as real? :'( Or, is Forza an exception?
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artistpavel
09/16/09

@sentroshi: Because those shots were taken by developers on their workstation PCs with maximum Anti-Aliasing and texture filtering.

Consoles produce images at low resolution that gets upscaled so it will never look like that.

Not to mention every PR screenshot goes through Photoshop enhancements.
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sentroshi
09/16/09

@artistpavel: That's horrible :(
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Cogito
09/16/09

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I like me some number 7/number 18. Someone who knows more about cars correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that an F40?
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nrXic
09/16/09

@Cogito: Yes.
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H-Falcon
09/16/09

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Damn... they really got the lighting effects down this time didn't they? Some of the screen shots when you look fast almost look like photo's. Of course once you look better you can see they aren't. But that is still really impressive in my opinion. On top of that we get full cockpit views this time around. Win!
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mfwahwah
09/16/09

@H-Falcon: After seeing GT5 screenshots these don't look photo realistic at all to me. I'm being serious too. I look at them and it's immediately obvious it's just a game. GT5 I have to do double takes.
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Pyrefly
09/16/09

@mfwahwah: Agreed. The graphics have improved drastically from Forza 2 but they are still noticably worse than GT5.
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mossiprose
09/16/09

@Pyrefly: ah yes, but jaggies are not there... thats the one thing this game has over the GT series.. anti aliasing... dont get me wrong, but the last time I checked, realism did not include jaggies on the screen. still buying both games.
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Pyrefly
09/16/09

@mossiprose: Very true. The graphics on GT5P are only really mared by the jaggies, heres to hoping they improve the AA for when GT5 actually releases.
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fahrenheit
09/16/09

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I'm sick of these screenshots. I'm sick of the lies. I'm sick of all the oohhh's and ahhh's.

This is a scandal. A con that needs to be exposed by Kotaku, not given a pedestal.

These screenshots are selling something that simply isn't real. Hardcore Forza fans might know what to expect, but the general masses who are expecting 32x anti-aliasing, perfect lighting, shadows and texturing are in for a shock.

The REAL footage out there shows a very different game to what is being presented here.
Turn 10, your game is U-G-L-Y and your screenshots can only hold off the dogs for so long... You are just setting people up for disappointment. Where are all the direct feed HD clips? We've got a demo about to drop and yet there is tight control over ACTUAL gameplay footage. Well no surprises, you sure do have something to hide...

Don't smile Polyphony...you are guilty too.
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FP_slomo788
09/16/09

@fahrenheit: Well the truth is, when you think about it, most games do this. There's always some post-processing for promo shots. If the masses want to believe this is real and that the 360 can somehow output this then too bad. Nowhere does it say "actual gameplay shot" and the Forza logo at the bottom shows very clearly that it's been retouched.
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nrXic
09/16/09

@fahrenheit: In photomode the only post processing that occurs is extra AA, DOF, and motion blur. The lighting, assets, textures, shadows are the same apparently.

We'll have to wait and see to know for sure, but judging from the screen it looks like an accurate claim from T10.

There has been a direct feed 720p 60fps vid released by T10 and it looks fantastic.

[download.microsoft.com]
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WhatTheFrag
09/16/09

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Maybe it's because I end up working with animators and post-pro FX from time to time but with the exception of 18, you can tell it's not real quite easily.
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GloatingSwine
09/16/09

@WhatTheFrag: It's not really meant to look real, it's meant to look like a glossy car brochure, which are always touched up and very slightly unreal.
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WhatTheFrag
09/16/09

@GloatingSwine: Most TV shows on cars use filters and such to make a car stand out and honestly they don't look like that when you film. I'm aware because I've done jobs like that. It's filters while filming and more filters at the edit table. But I was basing my statement on the environment. It looks too plastic. Plus quite a few people couldn't find the distinction. Plus it would be nice if they actually say that - I mean game devs, I have no probs with pseudo real and the only thing I really care about is the gameplay but they have been going about it looking/feeling more realistic.
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NecronomiconUK
09/16/09

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I really hope the 458 is in there. And if it's not but comes out as DLC over time, hand on heart I will buy that sucker.
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NinjaWilliams
09/16/09

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aye, dnot btoehr me, tehre are no rllaynig or off-raodnig trcaks, stcik wtih Drit 2/gt5! :)
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Kinburn
09/16/09

@NinjaWilliams: I just read your history of comments and they all read like the above. Type slower and you may get every letter in the correct order.
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fuchikoma
09/16/09

@Kinburn: i thnik NnijaWlilimas is a pertty cool guy - eh msahes keybroads and dsoent' afarid of antyhnig.
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Chronixal
09/16/09

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I want to drive a Testarossa, I'll play Outrun dammit!

Joking aside, those screens are pretty beautiful. Only way they could look better is if they included a Aston DB3
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