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11/04/09
this is fantastic news! #superstreetfighteriv
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For those of you who think this game is milking the cash cow, or is only a few aesthetic changes... you definitely need to do some more research. This game is going to be such an incredible value at <$50 that it'll be almost unfair for Capcom.
Redesigning the game balance, adding 8-10 new characters (the ones the FANS want, not randoms), tons of other random additions (stages, music, modes of play) and completely restructuring the online mode? What more do you want out of a fighting game update? They basically listened to exactly what the fans complained about with SF4, spent a year developing these changes, and are giving it to us for cheap.
SSF4 is shaping up to be the most complete 2D fighting game package Capcom has ever made. And you won't even have to pay full price for it. Sounds like a great deal to me!
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@fuchikoma: SF4 WAS as good as it could have been, primarily because until the game was on the market for 6 months, Capcom had no idea how the game could be improved. The concept that SF4 was some sort of... beta project, and we were all guinea pigs suckered into playing it is silly. We bought it, we loved it, we got hundreds of hours out of it, we easily got $60 of worth out of the game. Now Capcom is giving us the new stuff we want, at a reduced price. We paid full price for a full game, and many of us played it for substantially longer than other retail games we paid full price for!
This isn't some small update to an incomplete fighter. This is a monumental update to a well-made game, and its price is going to be justifiable. #superstreetfighteriv
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The retail version of SFIV was very poor on features and they are adding them nearly one by one. There is even a DLC planned for SSFIV already. The fact that a fighting game may amount to a lot of gaming time doesn't mean this policy is ethical. I really think you should ask more for your money, it's not normal that a fighting game, which is actually a really simple genre, needs 3 DLCs and a rebuild to be complete. #superstreetfighteriv
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Personally I'm not outraged because I'm not that passionate about it. It does seem a bit distateful though selling a service pack as a game in this day and age (then, GGX s) I LOVED SF4 for 2-3 weeks after it came out, but hit a tipping point where the tedium of fighting Seth negated the fun of fighting all other characters so badly I didn't even unlock them all. To me it was a capable, fairly well exectuted game with... adequate features, but not the best fighter I've played in the last few years. More like there was enough there to play with some variety - like SF2 before they did any of the revised versions. So to me, the idea of SSFIV just... has no pull.
If I wanted it though, I'd be asking why I can't get it as a patch, since the game is patchable, and is still SFIV. It's not some insurmountable technical feat. It may be a sizeable update, they may have rewritten the netcode from scratch, but it's kind of like buying a DVD, then buying the director's cut, as opposed to making it like going from Windows XP SP2 to SP3, except for a cost, if you know what I mean. The hardcore will love it because it's more of their favorite thing, while those the first version didn't have enough to hook long-term -even if the new one would be enough for them - have probably moved on.
I don't think SFIV was unfinished - a little minimal, but enough. I don't think SSFIV is a big ripoff, but I do think that by selling it as a separate game, they ensure that only the hardest hardcore fans, or people who had no interest in the first one but are swayed now will get it. #superstreetfighteriv
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Street Fighter 2 had no context to it. It's just, "Here's a car. Break it!" #superstreetfighteriv
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I mean, look at the other mini-games in that game. Can you really come up with any legitimate reason for going through and breaking a bunch of panes of glass? Even if they're also owned by Mad Gear... just swipe them and use them to replace windows in Metro City or something.
I prefer to think they just wanted to bust up a car. #superstreetfighteriv
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It can be nostalgic all it wants, but it still had to be a great game or players would have shunned it. I don't see how you thought you had a point with that comment. #superstreetfighteriv
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One thing is not having innovation as the main focus in a game developement, another thing is to reuse the exact same bonus stages of a game nearly two decades old, and not for SFIV, which doesn't have any, but for its re-edition. #superstreetfighteriv
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Capcom considered SFIV to be a risk. They weren't sure if there was still a large enough audience for Street Fighter anymore. Not exactly the best time to completely re-invent the wheel with the series, is it? That aside, I don't even agree with you that it's not innovative- there might not have been as many new techniques introduced in IV as in III (Ultras, FADC in IV, parries, super selection, easier cancels in III), but enough to make it fresh. There's enough new content in IV to make your claim that there's 'nothing new at all' seem like you don't know what you're talking about.
Street Fighter players want it to feel like they're playing Street Fighter. You go too far away from tradition, and you lose the SF faithful- and they're the ones who will always show up to buy the next SF game.
The bonus stages in Super is just a tip of the hat to the fans. It's fun for the fans. #superstreetfighteriv
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And I think you guys are abusing a bit the "fans like it" argument. I'm not a fan, I liked SFII, but now I want new stuff. A remake of SFII bonus stages feels like time has not passed. And even if you are fans, you should ask a little bit more from Capcom or they will go even further next time. #superstreetfighteriv
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Ken: SHOR YU KEENNNNN #superstreetfighteriv
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Please don't tell me that it's going to be a paid DLC. :-\ #superstreetfighteriv
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10/21/09
If you want to use a review, make a list of the games you thought were great, in one way or another. Then check the ratings of those games on different review sites. If a site tends to rank the games you like slightly better than another, I say trust what that site has to offer about an upcoming or released game. If they didn't like your all-time favs, don't.
In my case, I loved games like ToV, InFamous, Uncharted 2, Demon's Souls, MGS4, and SO4. Famitsu liked ToV, and to an extent the new Star Ocean game, but was luke warm to the rest of the line-up. So do I believe their review about Bayonetta? Not a chance. I'll wait for another source to come out with a saying.
To this I would like to add I appreciate sites like Kotaku, that will wait to play through the retail version(and that means start to finish) before they post a review. This, whether I agree or disagree with the result, is much appreciated as they gave the game a chance before they gave their appraisal. No one will convince me that all 4 reviewers at Famitsu finish the game before they give their score and publish it. #bayonetta
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