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Communist Pope
11/24/09

In reply to The BioWare Community Is Legion
I wonder how many of those people were like me and got semi-tricked into creating two accounts. Not realizing that the game created one for you (apparently without your consent, unless I missed it), I set up an account using an email address not associated with my Xbox Live account. When I tried to add my gamertag to the account, I was told it was already in use. Which prompted a reaction of WTF? and mild dread. So on a hunch I logged out, logged back in with my XBL email/password, and sure enough there it was.

Not the end of the world, but still not cool. Especially as the game purchase is registered under my self-created account, so my auto-account doesn't get credit for it. If there is any credit to be had.
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Vecha: One more Month
11/24/09

@Communist Pope:

I've read about that. Shoot an email to support.

I, personally, use the same email for the majority of everything in my life--so I had no such issues.

But I read a few forum topics about the issue..and it was able to be resolved.
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Communist Pope
11/24/09

@Vecha: One more Month: Sweet, thanks for the tip. It was more of an annoyance factor than anything else, but I should have enough free time to look into it over T-Day weekend.
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jwells001
11/24/09

@Communist Pope: You agree to account creation when you sign on and register the game... that is why you log in with an e=mail address. It's best to always log in to your new games with whatever gamertag is already associated with accounts from that distributor I've found.
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Limeade
11/24/09

In reply to The BioWare Community Is Legion
It is the games. The people. The fans. The community. Definitely. The fact that the company has moderation and control of their forums is part of the huge draw, too. So many other game companies run their forums and fansites rampant with crazy -- or neglect them and their fans entirely. BioWare folks are always around, socializing with the people, making posts, listening to nutty fans rant, and moderating when flames break out. They simply want everyone to have fun and enjoy their products. It is an attractive sell.
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hhbx
11/24/09

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Yeah, I was one of those 2 million that logged on.
For about 5 minutes, looked around and shrugged my shoulders and went back to MW2.
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Ignited_Impulse
11/24/09

In reply to The BioWare Community Is Legion
I like Mass Effect as much as the next sci-fi fan but that still doesn't make up for lack of Jade Empire II. I will forever be bitter....
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JohhnyDamage
11/24/09

@Ignited_Impulse: Jade Empire was my favorite game they made hands down.
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Izzeh
11/24/09

@Ignited_Impulse: I remember when I played Jade empire there were references to a lot of other areas that you never actually go to in the game. It made me think that it was going to be far bigger, so I was quite surprised when I got to the end as I thought I was about 1/3rd of the way through.

Could definitely do with a sequel, hopefully a slightly longer one.
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Vecha: One more Month
11/24/09

@Ignited_Impulse:

Let's hope for one on the xbox 720/Ps4!

I won't mind waiting for one if it should come out in the next 5-10 years. I'll still be alive and kicking.

I'd like for them to expand on the Jade Empire Universe. Personally, while I did like it, I found it lacking compared to other Bioware games. Filled more with possibilities than anything else imo.

If they can expand upon it much like how they did with ME/ME2/DA:O with the codex and lore..then I'd be a happy gamer.
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Deto
11/24/09

@JohhnyDamage: Hands down. Its the only Bioware game I never finished.. Don't shoot me!
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syafiqjabar of Mars
11/24/09

@Deto: A shame, because it is also a pretty short Bioware game. Do you at least get to the 'WTF?!' plot twist? I like even more than the KotOR one, since the earlier cutscenes were just there to mislead you.
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Jitawa
11/24/09

In reply to The BioWare Community Is Legion
It should be mentioned that the Bioware Social Network (BSN) is rife with bugs at the moment. The site was still listed as "beta" when the game came out, but they moved to shutdown the regular forums anyway.

The registration numbers are misleading as well, I'm betting the active users is nowhere near that. There's a perk for signing up in the way in-game items, so it "pays" for people to sign up if nothing else.

There's various login issues, posting issues, display issues, problems with characters not updating, etc. It's an ambitious endeavor, no doubt, but forcing everyone into the current buggy social network when they're previous forums were perfectly functional seems to be a sketchy idea in my opinion.

For my part, I fell victim to login issues, and can't get any support from Bioware. Deleting my account would destroy all my collector's edition content though. If this is the future, count me out.
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jwells001
11/24/09

@Jitawa: "Deleting my account would destroy all my collector's edition content though."
Not true. You just have to log into the game with the account you used when you created the BioWare Social site to get any content (i.e. content from the Flash game, or from downloading the Character Creator) associated with those accounts. As for the content that comes with your collector's edition,if you've already associated that content with another account (different from the one you used to get the other pre-release content waiting for you), you can contact customer support and have that content re-entitled to the account you want to use.
It might take a while (it's hugely popular and from what I'm reading, you aren't the only one to set up two accounts), but they will fix it.
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Jitawa
11/24/09

@jwells001: I wish they would, I've been contacting them about this since mid-october, my Bioware Forums account and EA accounts work on their own, but I'm completely locked out of the BSN because I made an account from the Bioware community before my EA account. The original account is inaccessible, and Bioware customer service/technical support have been totally unresponsive (they even took down the "contact us" form from the BSN troubleshooting page).
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gordo789
11/24/09

In reply to The BioWare Community Is Legion
I have some mixed feelings about dragon age. The side quests seem a little too MMORPG to me. The main quest has been good so far, but I'm stuck in the fade or some stupid BS while trying to save the circle of magi or whatever. This part SUCKS! Sucks so bad that I'm not sure when I'll load it up again to slog through it.
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syafiqjabar of Mars
11/24/09

@gordo789: I actually like the Fade, because the new mechanic they introduced there is to me quite refreshing, and make it play a bit like a Metroid or Castlevania game. And the MMORPG quests seem to me are limited to the board quests.
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yargh
11/24/09

@gordo789: Yeah, the fade part did suck. I ended up doing all the areas in the wrong order, so I had to backtrack to each place like 3x.

Wait until you get to Orzammar. I haven't played Dragon Age in a couple weeks because I got so bored of slogging through the ugly brown dungeons in Orzammar.
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jwells001
11/24/09

@gordo789: The Fade is a bit complicated. You have to get the different forms, and go back to places you've already been, to complete it. (i.e. first you are a mouse, that lets you get into small spaces, then once you get a firey form, you can walk through flames, and a spirit form that can access secret doors, so go back to navigate more, then you will get Golem form which lets you knock down the doors. My first run through was crazy frustrating, but the second time it was easy.)
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Cagny
11/24/09

@gordo789: Actually, when I got to ur part, I was floored. I thought, "Woah. This is different. They really care!" Every place in the game is so unique and very well thought out and it only really hit me until I got to the mage tower. Also, another perk of going there is to get a ton of free character stats.
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syafiqjabar of Mars
11/24/09

@yargh: I have to agree with you on the Deep Roads. It's annoying when games make you slog through a very long dungeon; when the rest of the game is more character-centric.
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Piata
11/24/09

In reply to The BioWare Community Is Legion
Dragon Age is the first RPG in years that actually made me want to listen to a random person's problems instead of just clicking "yes, yes, yes, yes" and then reading the abbreviated quest info later. The conversations themselves are cinematic and interesting. Add to it that group members will react differently depending on what you say and do and suddenly the whole context of everything in this game becomes important.

Bioware makes very engrossing games and it's the quality of Dragon Age especially that makes me want to sign up for Bioware's community.
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SalarymanDaishi
11/24/09

In reply to The BioWare Community Is Legion
I'm still a bit surprised at the warm reception of Dragon Age. As much as I loved Baldur's Gate II and Mass Effect, the first couple of hours on Dragon Age have been a bit on the lukewarm side.

Voice acting is all over the place, the visuals and framerate are exceptionally weak, persistent gore can thankfully be turned off (even the first quest of slaying ten rats ended up with heroes who looked like having visited a slaughterhouse splatterfest), and one death cry of a downed foe is pure embarrassing comedy gold as it goes on long after the foe should be dead.

Still, despite a bumpy start I'm sure the game on whole is going to be quite grand and enjoyable.
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Deto
11/24/09

@SalarymanDaishi: Yeah the first couple of hours to the game were kinda lame. The origin stories were rushed, especially elf one where some npcs just ignored you (as in you couldnt' even talk to them?) while you were slaughtering people around them :P

But as you got out to the 'free world' it became alot better and alot more fun :) I was however surprised how restricted everything was, I really never got any kind of feeling of freedom.. Unlike for example in BG or Mass effect, even if the freedom there itself isn't much of use.

Btw you can ask your dog to 'take care of the mess'... hah :D

Are you playing on PC or console? Might want to tweak down some settings if on PC, I had just about once drop of frame rate along the whole game. This is at ¨todays mid range comp¨, aka something you can buy cheapishly.

But I do agree, compared to ME the voice acting was much more boring except for some characters. Even though both of the games are very limited in chats, ME felt much more dynamic.

But in either case. Enjoy the game ;D
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SalarymanDaishi
11/24/09

@Deto: Yeah, I think my mistake was buying it for a console; watched some PC gameplay clips on YouTube and it's a lot smoother experience.

I guess it's primarily a PC game and the console versions were just an afterthought whereas with Mass Effect, it felt kinda the other way around.

Great to hear it picks up, though, and the world and storytelling certainly pack a lot of promise.
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Brazell
11/24/09

In reply to 2 Million LIVE Users Logged Into Facebook
... and simultaneously declared "It sucks."
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MaximumPayne
11/24/09

In reply to The BioWare Community Is Legion
I can't vouch for Dragon Age because i'm not a fan of the fantasy genre but Mass Effect deserves to be played by every Sci-Fi fan out there. KoTOR and Mass Effect have some of the best crafted stories I have seen in video games and they are even better than a lot of the Sci-Fi movies out today.
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PixelPenumbra
11/24/09

@MaximumPayne: Mass Effect's story is weak compared to Dragon Age's.
This is the game where Bioware FINALLY nailed "choices". Where you're sitting there wondering if something you did hours ago or even minutes ago would have led to a different outcome for a specific event...and not just some Good or Evil end to the story.

What I've learned from Dragon Age in the 25 hours I've invested in the game so far is that if you try to save every innocent person you're only going to get a lot of innocent people killed. It is a massive step forward for story in games and any Bioware fan owes it to themself to play it, because if this is a sign of things to come in future Bioware games then Mass Effect 2 and The Old Republic are going to blow minds.
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MaximumPayne
11/24/09

@PixelPenumbra: I think the story would come to down personal taste, because I never felt once the antagonist of Mass Effect was 100% pure evil, he had logic behind his motives and wanted to save the remaining "organics" from extinction, I really felt that Shepard and Saren wanted the same end result but just had different means of obtaining it.

I'm not trying to convince you to like the story if you think its weak, but I think it comes to personal taste and I personally got a lot of entertainment out of it. I'm a fan of BioWare but fantasy isn't my niche, I would be doing myself a disservice if I played the game and painted ill of BioWare in my mind.

I think it's only natural that BioWare would improve upon each new game, regardless of franchise. If they improved the choice mechanic I would be surprised if they didn't improve it even further with Mass Effect 2.

#speakup
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PixelPenumbra
11/24/09

@MaximumPayne: I dont mean the overarching story. I mean the way it plays out. Its a Bioware game. Massive Evil is coming. People in charge dismiss Incoming Massive Evil as not a threat. Lone hero becomes outlaw to fight Massive Evil. Gathers groupies along the way. Thats nothing new. But there was never a point in Mass Effect where I felt like anything I did really mattered. I was just along for the ride and there were some "sacrifice this guy or that chick", be a tough guy or be a softy moments...that didn't really alter all that much except for who ended up in my party. Whether you're a saint or kind of a jerk never seemed to have that much bearing on what happened. It just made people upset with you or happy with you.

Here it is much much much more refined and the choices you make can have devastating consequences to the characters you meet along the way.
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syafiqjabar of Mars
11/24/09

In reply to The BioWare Community Is Legion
You know, I may just make it a point to play all Bioware games. Shattered Steel is on GoG.com. I have a DS already, so the Sonic RPG I only need to buy. TOR maybe my first MMO. The only one that may be a problem is the first Baldur's Gate, which I hope I can find in here in Malaysia.
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SpaceBat
11/24/09

In reply to The BioWare Community Is Legion
DA:O is absolute crack. Too bad it's been overshadowed by the other releases this season. One of the few RPG's where the conversations are as much fun, if not more, than the combat.
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Archaotic
11/24/09

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I made an account up there. I have zero desire to purchase Mass Effect 2, but it's kinda cool the way the little "tracking" system displays your progress in Dragon Age. It'd be nice if it updated faster and more reliably, but it's free and you gotta take what you can get these days.

Kudos should be given for going above and beyond, at least.
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j.
11/24/09

In reply to 2 Million LIVE Users Logged Into Facebook
I had high hopes for facebook on the Xbox. They have been crushed.

You see, there is this little country called the People's Republic of China who decided last summer that facebook was harmful for its citizens and anyone on its territory using an Internet (whatever that is).

They then decided to add facebook to the number of dangerous sites.

Around that time, I received a new mobile phone as a gift that has the power of accessing the Internet and much to my delight, I realised that the powers that be forgot to enforce their hurdles on the mobile GPRS thingy. I started to reply to the people who seem to think that it is better to send a message on facebook than an email. Seriously. Why do people do that?

So, about two weeks ago, somebody at the Great Firewall HQ realised that people using mobile phones were in great danger. When I tried to access any site on my phone, Opera mini told me that my browsing experience would be enhanced by downloading their latest version. Now, it appears that the browser itself is blocking me from accessing facebook and other unpatriotic sites.

I was hoping for Microsoft to help me, but I learned that the facebook application is not available at this time, which is a nice way to say that facebook doesn't work in China.

It feels good to vent out.

But goddamn it. Really. I know it's not Microsoft's fault, I still don't understand why facebook. They already took out youtube and every site that has "blog" in its url, including blogger (mom, that's why I didn't update my blog for two years. If you're reading this, I'm still alive. Please send me some maple syrup and ketchup chips). China is not as bad as most people think it is, but having limited Internet sucks.

OK I'm done. I just wanted to say that it would be at least 2 million plus one if I could access it. Thank you.
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CakeCommander
11/24/09

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I really don't understand how people enjoy social networking (like Facebook), I mean I tried a couple of social networking sites and found that it was boring, I had hundreds of friends, more than half I didn't know with. videos\ music blasting your speakers off when you visit some elses page, mediocre games (most flash games are better (I know these games are also in flash) ) but the point is the whole social networking makes no sense to me, sure you can keep in contact with relatives and friends but why not just call\skpe them, sent an email, or maybe even going and talking to them face to face?

But then again maybe thats just me.
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ShaggE wants to join the Egg Council.
11/24/09

@CakeCommander: It's a good way to find people you haven't seen in a long time. (For instance, via Myspace, I found my father, and discovered that I have a half-brother.)

But I do agree that for everyday things, they are a little much.
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syafiqjabar of Mars
11/24/09

@CakeCommander: What ShaggE said.

All of my Facebook friends are:
a)my college buddies that I haven't seen since graduating

b)all my former school buddies (since I was 7), some of whom I haven't seen in over a decade.

c)Nearly all my cousins. On my father's side it's horribly convoluted, so Facebook help me tell who's who.

Also, it's the best way to store photos online that you want to share with your friends.
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RuneX21
11/24/09

@CakeCommander:

Its really quite easy, As someone who lives on the other side of the planet from my relatives(literally, family in florida, Im in tokyo), it allows me to keep in touch with family and friends easily and is better than mail because its all in one place.

Additionally, im not at my pc in the same time frames as they are, so skyping really isnt an option 99% of the time. I could email them one by one, but why not have everything including important dates and events in one location? Its all about convienence and has made staying in touch very simple.
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