Hah... I love how everyone acts as if EQ2 is playing catchup to WoW... I stopped playing EQ2 years ago when I went back to college, but the majority of stuff that they keep adding into WoW has been in EQ2 since the start. EQ2 was far ahead of it's time and is to this day the best MMO I have ever played; it requires skill to play, EVERY npc is voiced over, all quests serve a purpose to the greater overarching story, and its also extremely atmospheric.
Please stop hating on a game simply because of the stigma of EQ1 or SOE. EQ2 is better than WoW on pretty much EVERY account, except for user population.
@Jason *Jaxel* Axelrod: I agree. EQ2 is a better game as far as features go. However, it is the loneliest game I've ever played. The community is formed around end content, which means there is very little interaction at lower levels. If they could somehow fix the community problems they have, it'd be perfect!
@Jason *Jaxel* Axelrod: Even though I don't play EQ2 anymore I do have to say it is a very very enjoyable MMO and I don't understand the hate towards it.
Honestly, many things it does better than WoW. The idea of it playing catch up to WoW is kind of silly as they are just really different games (which is kind of shocking to say about MMOs most feel I'm sure).
Only thing that I feel still needs tweaking as of last time I played was that combat still kind of. . . "skatey". Not sure exactly how to describe it, but it's a little stilted and disconnected. If they had the smoothness of gameplay that WoW does (but honesly no MMO has as smooth gameplay as WoW it's they're biggest selling point imo) than EQ2 would easily be the best MMO around and of all time.
@Frogbot: Part of the problem in the early levels is the AA system in place. You earn AAs for finishing quests, killing named mobs for the first time, etc. Grouping in dungeons provides less AA than soloing, so people on their Nth alt would rather gain the AAs quickly and level slower.
I think they need to revitalize the older content to get more interest. The achievements are hopefully a step towards that, but I think some form of unique currency or such as a reward for grouping in dungeons (a la EQ1's LDoN or DoN expansions) would help as well.
If people had a reason to go to a level 20 dungeon to mentor down to lowbies, it would help a ton. Create writ-like tasks that require you to kill while mentored in a dungeon which build a faction and points/currency system towards buying equipment for all levels.
You know, I find myself asking these questions a lot in my comments but here goes anyway:
"So What?" "Who Cares?"
Let's assume the survey is right and 90% of the three women that play Everquest 2 are bi. What does this mean for me? Or you? What does this mean for the average Everquest user? Do these women, because they're bi, just go around handing out their addresses and phone numbers for "social experimentation"? What conclusions can be drawn from knowing bisexual women play Everquest 2? Or even that that personality of women play MMOs in general?
More MMOs should cater to the bisexual crowd? We need gender-neutral avatars and virtual-sex areas? I really just don't understand the point of a survey like that at all.
And assume the survey is wrong and inacurate. Will that stop me from playing World of Warcraft as a female avatar to get more free stuff? No. Will that stop hordes of women from claiming to be bi to get more free stuff? No. Will that convince men that they have absolutely no chance of getting with these women or at least catching them on a webcam? No.
So, basically, the result of this survey is... nothing. We've learned nothing, we've gained nothing, and nothing changes as a result. Hooray!
Get research grant at Uni, stretch it out as long as you can and it's that much longer before you have to go work in the real world where they expect useful results.
Give it a fancy title like "Socioeconomic and psychosexual segregation in virtual multiuser worlds" and give results like the above padded with redundant BS.
Bam, one more year of relative freedom and another entry on your resume.
Are they bisexual in the sphere of an MMO (where you can be anything you want) or are these true bisexuals who can have or had relationships with both genders offline?
Or did they just say it because it would burn them through the survey faster? From what I have read and understood true bisexuals are kinda rare. There are a lot of people at younger ages who sexually experiment, but that's not being bisexual.
Something's not right about this survey. To capture that much of a social-sexual rarity in one place means it's a social phenomenon or the numbers are screwy.
@DarthVegan: People belonging to the emo-subculture usually claim to be bisexual, though I can't believe that all of them would actually sleep with one of their own gender.
Giving someone a kiss is not the same as having sex with them after all.
So yes, it is interesting. It makes you wonder how many of them are genuinely bisexual or not just experimenting/wanting to fit in etc,
@Nevest356: Young women's sexual preference nowadays can change as much as their hair colour. And that's all well and good. For way too many women, being bisexual for most is a) a way get the attention of men b) a way to differentiate themselves from the crowd. Here's a wager- 3.9 of those 4 in 5 actually would pass up a tryst with one of their lady friends for some kak any day of the week.
No seriously, think about it! Get people thinking that there are a ton of bisexual women in Everquest. This potentially draws more stereotypical MMO players to hopefully talk with a woman...and potentially draws actual bisexual women to Everquest...
@anonymousryan: geez you bring back memory of the beginning of my high school years i myself play with maybe half a dozen of 2 before i met my actual girlfriend
09/24/09
Oh."
Are you seriously implying that WoW did something first?
Achievements have been in MMOs well before Blizzard, they just haven't always been called "Achievements".
WoW didn't add achievements until mid to late 2008.
Both City of Heroes/Villians and LOTRO had achievement systems (called Badges and Deeds, respectively) for years before WoW implemented their system.
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Please stop hating on a game simply because of the stigma of EQ1 or SOE. EQ2 is better than WoW on pretty much EVERY account, except for user population.
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09/24/09
Honestly, many things it does better than WoW. The idea of it playing catch up to WoW is kind of silly as they are just really different games (which is kind of shocking to say about MMOs most feel I'm sure).
Only thing that I feel still needs tweaking as of last time I played was that combat still kind of. . . "skatey". Not sure exactly how to describe it, but it's a little stilted and disconnected. If they had the smoothness of gameplay that WoW does (but honesly no MMO has as smooth gameplay as WoW it's they're biggest selling point imo) than EQ2 would easily be the best MMO around and of all time.
09/24/09
I think they need to revitalize the older content to get more interest. The achievements are hopefully a step towards that, but I think some form of unique currency or such as a reward for grouping in dungeons (a la EQ1's LDoN or DoN expansions) would help as well.
If people had a reason to go to a level 20 dungeon to mentor down to lowbies, it would help a ton. Create writ-like tasks that require you to kill while mentored in a dungeon which build a faction and points/currency system towards buying equipment for all levels.
Win/win
09/24/09
12/23/08
"So What?"
"Who Cares?"
Let's assume the survey is right and 90% of the three women that play Everquest 2 are bi. What does this mean for me? Or you? What does this mean for the average Everquest user? Do these women, because they're bi, just go around handing out their addresses and phone numbers for "social experimentation"? What conclusions can be drawn from knowing bisexual women play Everquest 2? Or even that that personality of women play MMOs in general?
More MMOs should cater to the bisexual crowd? We need gender-neutral avatars and virtual-sex areas? I really just don't understand the point of a survey like that at all.
And assume the survey is wrong and inacurate. Will that stop me from playing World of Warcraft as a female avatar to get more free stuff? No. Will that stop hordes of women from claiming to be bi to get more free stuff? No. Will that convince men that they have absolutely no chance of getting with these women or at least catching them on a webcam? No.
So, basically, the result of this survey is... nothing. We've learned nothing, we've gained nothing, and nothing changes as a result. Hooray!
12/23/08
Research grants.
Get research grant at Uni, stretch it out as long as you can and it's that much longer before you have to go work in the real world where they expect useful results.
Give it a fancy title like "Socioeconomic and psychosexual segregation in virtual multiuser worlds" and give results like the above padded with redundant BS.
Bam, one more year of relative freedom and another entry on your resume.
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What does that mean, actually? Does it somehow exist bisexuals in the MMIRPG-worlds that don't exist in the real world?
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Are they bisexual in the sphere of an MMO (where you can be anything you want) or are these true bisexuals who can have or had relationships with both genders offline?
Or did they just say it because it would burn them through the survey faster? From what I have read and understood true bisexuals are kinda rare. There are a lot of people at younger ages who sexually experiment, but that's not being bisexual.
Something's not right about this survey. To capture that much of a social-sexual rarity in one place means it's a social phenomenon or the numbers are screwy.
12/23/08
Giving someone a kiss is not the same as having sex with them after all.
So yes, it is interesting. It makes you wonder how many of them are genuinely bisexual or not just experimenting/wanting to fit in etc,
12/23/08
o_O
12/23/08
"Of the five women I know in real life"
lol says it all
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No seriously, think about it! Get people thinking that there are a ton of bisexual women in Everquest. This potentially draws more stereotypical MMO players to hopefully talk with a woman...and potentially draws actual bisexual women to Everquest...
BRILLIANT!
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12/23/08
Please take that back with you.