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    Image of brass2themax brass2themax
    09/09/09

    In reply to Electronic Arts Tests Journalists' Greed With Cash
    Kotaku, you could have donated the money to charity. Or auctioned the check off as a collectable item (after writing VOID on the back), and used the profits for charity, helping others in need. Instead, you disavowed Greed and instead took on Pride, yet another just as evil sin, and wasted the opportunity to help others.

    Smart move, assholes.
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    Image of T-DoggIsTheLick T-DoggIsTheLick
    09/09/09

    @brass2themax: Agree 100 %.
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    Image of Nichael Nichael
    09/10/09

    @T-DoggIsTheLick: Also agreed.
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    Image of Sofox Sofox
    09/10/09

    @Nichael: Triple agreed.
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    09/10/09

    @Sofox: Quad Agree.
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    09/10/09

    @brass2themax: Quadruple agreed.
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    Image of jonomcleish jonomcleish
    09/10/09

    @brass2themax: Hexen? agreed - auction the whole box with check off and then donate...
    Oh wow! ...the Pride thing! I didn't even realise - true!
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    ZaxxonQ.com promoted this comment Edited by jonomcleish at 09/10/09 7:14 AM jonomcleish was starred jonomcleish was unstarred
    Image of Malthivarius Malthivarius
    09/10/09

    @brass2themax: Oh? But then your argument would be that whoever happened to win such an auction could have just donated the money they put down themselves. And wouldn't their motivations for participation be fueled by their OWN greed..?
    And isn't your ever so critical point just as prideful? Where's YOUR donation?

    Draw a line and don't be a douche. You're just pissed 'cause you'd have totally dropped the cash to have that cheque yourself :P
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    ZaxxonQ.com promoted this comment Malthivarius was starred Malthivarius was unstarred
    Image of Bernard McGraw Bernard McGraw
    09/10/09

    @brass2themax: Also agree. This is one of the most stupid and thoughtlessly executed stunts of self-righteousness I've seen in a while.
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    Image of 7ucky 7ucky
    09/10/09

    @brass2themax: Uh-greed.
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    ZaxxonQ.com promoted this comment 7ucky was starred 7ucky was unstarred
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    09/10/09

    @Malthivarius: Who's the douche here? His language was a bit unnecessarily harsh, but he's not the one trolling comments sections calling people names without recourse. You are. He simply made the point that the act committed was a prideful attempt that aimed to avoid sin and temptation altogether, but ended up self-righteousness and short-sighted. There was an opportunity here and it was squandered in the name of trying to look cool. That's what I took away from his post. Let's think about it.

    Only one person in this had a $200 check land in their lap. Only one person had the opportunity to use that particular tasteless publicity stunt for something greater. Instead, an even more tasteless act was demonstrated.

    Don't pull this "EA should donate" or "Where's YOUR donation?" You don't have a fucking clue about whether EA or your fellow kotakuites donate. How could you?

    While we're on the subject, where's YOUR donation? See what I did there? See how that has no bearing on the conversation at hand on really only sounds, well, douchey?

    Don't try to play the logic game without using actual logic and try to read what people are trying to convey instead of just looking at words on a screen.
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    Image of ObviousFanboyShill ObviousFanboyShill
    09/10/09

    @brass2themax: "Vanity. Definitely my favourite sin"
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    Image of brass2themax brass2themax
    09/12/09

    @Malthivarius: I was quoted on Ars Technica apparently. Just for the sake of clarification and response to your comment, I donate to the Salvation Army every year at Christmas. And get this, I'm not a big EA fan, and collectable junk doesn't do it for me, so there is no element of my own greed here at all. I'm just shocked they had some money they didn't need/want and instead of using it for good, they decided no one else could use it.

    Anyway... Old news item is old.
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    Edited by brass2themax at 09/12/09 12:31 PM brass2themax was starred brass2themax was unstarred
    Image of Squirrelbot3000 Squirrelbot3000
    09/13/09

    I agree as well. Donating it would have been the selfless thing to do.
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    Image of RoFFL3s RoFFL3s
    09/09/09

    In reply to Electronic Arts Tests Journalists' Greed With Cash
    hmmm shouldve kept it, what happens if it turns out that you couldve traded it in for something cooler later on? and EA was just testing you!
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    09/09/09

    In reply to Electronic Arts Tests Journalists' Greed With Cash
    Christ, has EA given their marketing department carte blanche? Are they just trying to make up for not pushing Dead Space hard enough?
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    09/09/09

    In reply to Electronic Arts Tests Journalists' Greed With Cash
    There goes 200 dollars worth of booze and porn.
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    Image of MyNameIsTooAwesome MyNameIsTooAwesome
    09/09/09

    In reply to Electronic Arts Tests Journalists' Greed With Cash
    This game better be good.
    I am studying the damn book on literature
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    NeVeRMoRe666 promoted this comment MyNameIsTooAwesome was starred MyNameIsTooAwesome was unstarred
    Image of NeVeRMoRe666 NeVeRMoRe666
    09/09/09

    @MyNameIsTooAwesome: "I am studying the damn book on literature"

    Study harder!

    :p
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    Image of BlueBeard BlueBeard
    09/09/09

    In reply to Electronic Arts Tests Journalists' Greed With Cash
    I'd cash it just to see the look on my bank teller's face.

    Memo: Abandon Hope. Glad you reminded me, I would have forgotten!
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    Image of Downskated Downskated
    09/09/09

    In reply to Electronic Arts Tests Journalists' Greed With Cash
    so EA is now openly paying off critics, i thought that was meant to be under the table type deals
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    Image of choco27 choco27
    09/09/09

    @Downskated: Its a promotional gag about paying off critics.
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    Image of thewafflecult thewafflecult
    09/09/09

    In reply to Electronic Arts Tests Journalists' Greed With Cash
    Wouldn't burning the check on Youtube so everyone can see how righteous you are make you guilty of Pride, Brian? ;)
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    Image of EmeraldDragon EmeraldDragon
    09/09/09

    In reply to Electronic Arts Tests Journalists' Greed With Cash
    And that other solution would be...what exactly?
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    09/09/09

    @EmeraldDragon: Watch the video that's included (#8) and see for yourself.
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    Image of haran_elessar haran_elessar
    09/09/09

    In reply to Electronic Arts Tests Journalists' Greed With Cash
    Joystiq will cash it and donate it to:

    "The White House Project, a nonpartisan, nonprofit organization that aims to advance women's leadership in all communities and sectors – up to the U.S. presidency – by filling the leadership pipeline with a richly diverse, critical mass of women"

    edit: [www.joystiq.com]
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    spannu promoted this comment Edited by haran_elessar at 09/09/09 5:27 PM haran_elessar was starred haran_elessar was unstarred
    Image of Mishotaki Mishotaki
    09/09/09

    In reply to Electronic Arts Tests Journalists' Greed With Cash
    i would have cashed it and sent them 200$ worth of pennies back!
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    09/09/09

    @Mishotaki: COD!

    (that's "cash on delivery," not "call of duty" :p)
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    Image of ShadowOdin of dubious snowiness ShadowOdin of dubious snowiness
    09/09/09

    @Bialia: I thought it was "Comment of the day"
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    Image of rich8606 rich8606
    09/09/09

    In reply to Electronic Arts Tests Journalists' Greed With Cash
    woot! I want that in my collection. Put it in a contest?
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    Image of TookieWhy TookieWhy
    09/09/09

    In reply to Electronic Arts Tests Journalists' Greed With Cash
    Most people saying that Crecente should have donated it are forgetting that this is pretty much a test for EA. I'm pretty sure they read Kotaku.
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    Image of ShadowOdin of dubious snowiness ShadowOdin of dubious snowiness
    09/09/09

    @TookiGuy: What? You think EA would've withdrawn their support from Kotaku if they gave it to charity? Especially when giving it to charity would've defeated their campaign since it would be neither of those two.
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    09/09/09

    @ShadowOdin of dubious snowiness: I never said that EA would've withdrawn their support or anything - I don't get where you got that, I never even meant anything close.
    I said that this is kind of a test for EA. Would they themselves consider giving the money away to charity?
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    Image of ShadowOdin of dubious snowiness ShadowOdin of dubious snowiness
    09/09/09

    @TookiGuy: Oh sorry, I missread what you wrote. I thought it said "test -by- EA"
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    Image of physalis physalis
    09/09/09

    In reply to Electronic Arts Tests Journalists' Greed With Cash
    did Hunter S. Thompson write the check?
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    09/09/09

    @physalis: I think you mean Ralph Steadman.

    Hunter Thompson, of course, died in 2005 and had handwriting that looked nothing like that.
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    Image of physalis physalis
    09/11/09

    @Brodka: yeah your right, for some reason I thought he only did the artwork
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    Image of segata sanshiro segata sanshiro
    09/09/09

    In reply to Electronic Arts Tests Journalists' Greed With Cash
    Ow, now I get the consequences for mr. Crecente! Lots of angry readers who don't realize that what Crecente did was for the sake of Kotaku's liability. He already do a lot for charity, much more than 200 bucks, why are people picking on him? And it's still money in the hands of EA, they can still donate it.
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    Edited by segata sanshiro at 09/09/09 4:06 PM segata sanshiro was starred segata sanshiro was unstarred
    Image of jcb231 jcb231
    09/09/09

    @segata sanshiro:

    People are picking because EA probably won't donate the money, they'll just keep it and pat themselves on the back that the promotion cost less than they'd budgeted.

    All this talk of "EA is the one that should donate it" is just silly, they were trying to market a game and were spending 200 bucks to do so....Crecente is the one that had the check in-hand and could have donated it, instead he burns it for the sake of a simple blog post that will be forgotten about by the end of the week.
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    09/09/09

    @jcb231:
    Let's try this again..

    A company is willing to spend $200 on reviewers.

    But would they be willing to spend $200 on charity, expecting nothing in return?

    Inquiring minds would like to know.
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    09/10/09

    @nipsen:

    I'm guessing the answer would be "no."

    Which is why I think Kotaku should have cashed the check, passed the money along to charity, and encouraged other members of the press to do the same. Sure PAX is over but its never too early to start donating to Child's Play....seems like a good choice of charity for gamer types.
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    Image of nipsen nipsen
    09/10/09

    @jcb231:
    What about "fund for video games that are not sequels"?

    Seriously, though - if they cashed the check, it would've been as good as taking the money. Of course refusing it was the only right thing to do.
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    09/13/09

    @nipsen:

    Who cares? I doubt the charity that could have benefitted gives a damn whether or not Crecente cashes the check.
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