Ohio was called for Obama. Stick a fork in it, this election is done :D. The west coast will easily put him over the top with an extra 72 electoral votes.
@Para: "No man has ever electrified the world so much compared to Obama."
Is that a joke? I mean, I voted for the guy, but that has got to be a joke. If you're referring to the interest the world has taken in this election, I think you'll find that it's because the rest of the world is afraid of what will happen is another Bush is elected into office.
I'm sorry but I'm an Airforce Vet, My Father served in the Airforce for 35 years and my baby brother is a Marine. There is no way in hell I would vote for a Marxist as President, plus he has friends that are Terrorists.
The US Military do not want Obama as our Commander in Chief, we all see him as a "Black Jimmy Carter". I wonder how all the Gamers feel about Obama's "National Civilian Defense Force". Orwellian 1984? When do I start calling all the Obama surpporters "BROWN SHIRTS"? Income distribution for the lazy umemployed. You people are in for a rude of awaken when Obama takes office, because Obama is the poster child of corrupt Chicago politics. You want to see how his Administration is going to be like? Take a hard look at Dailey's Administration in Chicago and that is how Obama will run this country...
@Indypunk: Agreed. I was furious at the presidential "debates". All they could do was sling mud, remaining completely mute (or confusingly vague) on their own policies.
I voted McCain. I know I know, but as much as I dislike McCain, I think Obama could really hurt this country in the long run. Especially with the entire senate behind him. Checks and balance people!
My experience is that when people don't like the outcome of something, they try to diminish the source of that result in order to accept the cognitive dissonance the result creates.
From my anecdotal experience, there are a lot of racists on Xbox Live, so should I be as surprised as you aren't that Obama did well?
No, because anecdotes are not statistical evidence and unweighted non-random polls like this are meaningless fun.
@ca36gtp: Sarcasm tags? There are probably just as many racists voting for either side. If anything, I would expect more white supremacists than black just because there are more whites in the country. Regardless, this is sensationalism, which we can safely rely on the media for. No need to do it ourselves, hence: Sarcasm tags, please?
Lots of Palin hate, I see. I guess Gibson/Couric really worked her over pretty effectively.
That's such a shame to me; she's the only one of any of them who seems genuinely motivated by interests greater than her own political career and delivering what the voters ask for.
McCain is too interested in trying to please everybody, which leads to disappointing everybody.
Whereas Obama honestly comes across at a total personification of everything everyone hates about politicians, complete with a history (and lack thereof) to back it up, saying whatever he must to charm a voter and sounding so good. So much "more of the same". Plus, the math in his proposed economic plan really scares the hell out of me.
Biden is just a weirdo.
Palin is the only one of any of them I could see going into that great big house and taking any real initiative to do something about it's current state without giving a crap about bribes, who she pisses off (including McCain) or what anyone else thinks besides her voters.
...And I find this whole "bet she'd push the NUKE button" fear mongering argument to be incredibly naive and insulting to the smarts, success, common sense and inginuity she has already demonstrated in spades.
@wonder6oy: I think I agree with you, wonder6oy. She seems to be the only one of any of them that has something resembling a soul. In that respect she barely seems like a politician at all, which is I guess because she is barely a politician. Like it or hate it.
@Krondonian: I understand and respect your point of view.
However, I'm almost certain the same types of things could be said as well about our (American) founding fathers. While the ability to regurgitate facts is certainly a desirable trait, genuine leadership, representation of the will of the people and a courageous spirit are all equally as important.
@wonder6oy: Does the whole, y'know..... seeing russia out her window, believing a prank call was the french presedent, believing the earth is 6000 years old, condeming scientists that have broken major groung in biology because they work with fruit flys, calling global warming a myth etc...... not make you feel a bit uneasy about her?
You are right there, but does Obama not do that quite well too?
As I said, I'm not American, so I haven't really listened to the candidates outside of the odd video clip here and there, meaning I can't possibly comment authoritatively on their leadership.
However, Palin did seem a bit 'ditzy' and annoying to me. Saying 'I love you' in such a flippant manner to the faux Sarkosy is one example of such, that exercised me disproportionately to the crime.
I would want a leader to express themselves eloquently, intelligently and with panache. For that end, I haven't particularly liked any of the candidates.
I love public speaking and debating and for me not writing ones own speeches is unthinkable, yet since the buffoonery of Bush and his spontaneous language creation it seems that every word must be rigorously approved for any and all connotations and implications it may have.
So in that sense Palin's somewhat unorthodox speech that I have seen is refreshing, and a step in the right direction. Unfortunately for me, it seems to be for the wrong reasons.
Can you give me 5 specifics you think Obama will deliver instead? (without using "change", "Bush", "he's a great speaker" and "everyone else loves him")
I'm certainly not implying you can't; I'm just curious to see what it is everyone seems to love about this man.
@Ahmunnaeetchoo: Just say it already. You obviously think Evangelical Christians are unintelligent or ignorant, so stop pretending you're beating around the bush. But it is a baseless insult that intelligence and the Bible are at odds, so even better would be to please just stop it.
Add me in the 'Obama' column for many of the reasons already stated. McCain made a huge mistake with his Palin pick. It screamed 'gimmick' from Day One, just a way to counter the whole "let's make history" thing the Dems had going on.
Also, someone mentioned that they disliked how McCain ran his campaign... focusing more on his opponent's person and not the issues at hand, etc. Great point.
The way McCain couldn't even look at Obama during the first debate showed me that he does not respect him. I'm tired of the same old GOP hubris that has, in large part, landed the US where it is today.
Lastly-- McCain's ideology is far too similar to that of Bush's for me to even almost consider voting for him. To borrow from GundamAC197 yet again-- the fear-mongering is so tiresome.
No politician is perfect or even close, but Obama seems to be the clear choice. I feel doubly assured after hearing that most of the world outside of the US also wants to see Obama win. I'm tired of people hating Americans. I'm tired of going overseas and saying 'hey, I didn't vote for him...!
@dae_giovanni: Yeah Palin is surely a gimmick, getting a woman can only mean that, hell forget her qualifications.
I mean Obama got to where he is because of his lack of qualifications and his great ability to read pre-written speeches. Race had nothing to do with it, I mean he is nothing like John Edwards in 2004 right?
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Congrats President Elect Barack Obama from the great state of Illinois!
Step one is done; now it's time to start cleaning up the Bush/McCain/GOP shitstorm.
1/20/09 can't get here soon enough.
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Is that a joke? I mean, I voted for the guy, but that has got to be a joke. If you're referring to the interest the world has taken in this election, I think you'll find that it's because the rest of the world is afraid of what will happen is another Bush is elected into office.
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The US Military do not want Obama as our Commander in Chief, we all see him as a "Black Jimmy Carter". I wonder how all the Gamers feel about Obama's "National Civilian Defense Force". Orwellian 1984? When do I start calling all the Obama surpporters "BROWN SHIRTS"? Income distribution for the lazy umemployed. You people are in for a rude of awaken when Obama takes office, because Obama is the poster child of corrupt Chicago politics. You want to see how his Administration is going to be like? Take a hard look at Dailey's Administration in Chicago and that is how Obama will run this country...
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It is scary!
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If you only hear the candidates bashing their opponents, as apposed to promoting their beliefs, you know something is wrong.
America needs change, but it will never see the change it truly needs.
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I reck'n you're the only one.
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I reck'n yar right pardner
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Some of us consider a Democratic controlled government a feature, not a bug.
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My experience is that when people don't like the outcome of something, they try to diminish the source of that result in order to accept the cognitive dissonance the result creates.
From my anecdotal experience, there are a lot of racists on Xbox Live, so should I be as surprised as you aren't that Obama did well?
No, because anecdotes are not statistical evidence and unweighted non-random polls like this are meaningless fun.
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Whether you are a Democrat or a Republican, say no to racism: vote against Obama.
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There are probably just as many racists voting for either side. If anything, I would expect more white supremacists than black just because there are more whites in the country.
Regardless, this is sensationalism, which we can safely rely on the media for. No need to do it ourselves, hence: Sarcasm tags, please?
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That's such a shame to me; she's the only one of any of them who seems genuinely motivated by interests greater than her own political career and delivering what the voters ask for.
McCain is too interested in trying to please everybody, which leads to disappointing everybody.
Whereas Obama honestly comes across at a total personification of everything everyone hates about politicians, complete with a history (and lack thereof) to back it up, saying whatever he must to charm a voter and sounding so good. So much "more of the same". Plus, the math in his proposed economic plan really scares the hell out of me.
Biden is just a weirdo.
Palin is the only one of any of them I could see going into that great big house and taking any real initiative to do something about it's current state without giving a crap about bribes, who she pisses off (including McCain) or what anyone else thinks besides her voters.
...And I find this whole "bet she'd push the NUKE button" fear mongering argument to be incredibly naive and insulting to the smarts, success, common sense and inginuity she has already demonstrated in spades.
What an election.
My $.02 --- flame away
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Tthere has been an overwhelming amount of evidence to suggest that Palin is simply inadequate.
I see a person of average intellect, with stunning holes in knowledge that should be expected of anyone, never mind a Vice President.
I know nothing of Biden, yet if American would vote for Obama simply as it's a vote against Palin.
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In that respect she barely seems like a politician at all, which is I guess because she is barely a politician. Like it or hate it.
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However, I'm almost certain the same types of things could be said as well about our (American) founding fathers. While the ability to regurgitate facts is certainly a desirable trait, genuine leadership, representation of the will of the people and a courageous spirit are all equally as important.
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You are right there, but does Obama not do that quite well too?
As I said, I'm not American, so I haven't really listened to the candidates outside of the odd video clip here and there, meaning I can't possibly comment authoritatively on their leadership.
However, Palin did seem a bit 'ditzy' and annoying to me. Saying 'I love you' in such a flippant manner to the faux Sarkosy is one example of such, that exercised me disproportionately to the crime.
I would want a leader to express themselves eloquently, intelligently and with panache. For that end, I haven't particularly liked any of the candidates.
I love public speaking and debating and for me not writing ones own speeches is unthinkable, yet since the buffoonery of Bush and his spontaneous language creation it seems that every word must be rigorously approved for any and all connotations and implications it may have.
So in that sense Palin's somewhat unorthodox speech that I have seen is refreshing, and a step in the right direction. Unfortunately for me, it seems to be for the wrong reasons.
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1 - joking reference out off context
2 - irrelevant
3 - baloney
4 - pork reference out of context
5 - untrue/skeptical that man is the cause
I think you're drinking too much Koolaid.
Can you give me 5 specifics you think Obama will deliver instead? (without using "change", "Bush", "he's a great speaker" and "everyone else loves him")
I'm certainly not implying you can't; I'm just curious to see what it is everyone seems to love about this man.
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1. really? can't say i know too much about it but it thought she was serious?
2. irrelevant that she is fooled so easy by an american stereotype of a french president?
3. Is she not an evangelical...? y'know anti-evolution and that.
4. you what?
5. yes, skeptical even after the IPCC report...
elections for me always seem to be the case of voting for the lesser of two evils.
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But it is a baseless insult that intelligence and the Bible are at odds, so even better would be to please just stop it.
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Also, someone mentioned that they disliked how McCain ran his campaign... focusing more on his opponent's person and not the issues at hand, etc. Great point.
The way McCain couldn't even look at Obama during the first debate showed me that he does not respect him. I'm tired of the same old GOP hubris that has, in large part, landed the US where it is today.
Lastly-- McCain's ideology is far too similar to that of Bush's for me to even almost consider voting for him. To borrow from GundamAC197 yet again-- the fear-mongering is so tiresome.
No politician is perfect or even close, but Obama seems to be the clear choice. I feel doubly assured after hearing that most of the world outside of the US also wants to see Obama win. I'm tired of people hating Americans. I'm tired of going overseas and saying 'hey, I didn't vote for him...!
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I mean Obama got to where he is because of his lack of qualifications and his great ability to read pre-written speeches. Race had nothing to do with it, I mean he is nothing like John Edwards in 2004 right?
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Most of the moderate Republicans endorsing Obama cite Palin and the tone of the McCain campaign as their major impetus for doing so.
People of all stripes think she is a gimmick and drag on McCain.
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