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Jonman
05/28/09

In reply to So, Just How Many Games Come Out At Christmas Time?
Oh how I love me some graphs. Shiny, visualised data, mmmm. Excel is my friend.
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SigmundTheSeaMonster
05/28/09

In reply to So, Just How Many Games Come Out At Christmas Time?
Marketing 101. THough, I recall most of the GOOD games are released three weeks before Thanksgiving holidays (Gears, Halo, GTA4,...)
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Jonman
05/28/09

@SigmundTheSeaMonster:

Err, GTA4 was released in Q2 '08. Quite a lot of weeks before Thanksgiving...
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okenny :) ...building bridges (to hide under)
05/28/09

In reply to So, Just How Many Games Come Out At Christmas Time?
Quality walks, bullshit talks!
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Last Face
05/28/09

In reply to So, Just How Many Games Come Out At Christmas Time?
So basically Q4 is all shitty games and AAA games?

I mean what it looks like to me is that they just make less mediocre ones and stick to the extremes.
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PositivelyGreg
05/28/09

@Last Face; Use a Green Shell like a man!: The difference largely comes to shovelware, which depends on the holidays. I think there's the beginning now also of publishers understanding that a 60-85 range title is probably better off waiting for the spring, where it can flourish as the biggest release of the week, instead of being boxed in between numerous much-more-hyped titles.
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Talleh
03/18/09

In reply to So, How Many 360 Games Are Any Good?
I wonder, does this count XBLA games? If they're using metacritic, and I'm pretty sure that includes XBLA games, it's not so accurate, especially with how many trashy ports there are for XBLA.
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Perfec7
03/17/09

In reply to So, How Many 360 Games Are Any Good?
And the thing is, almost all of the "good" games on the 360 are REALLY good. Same with the PS3. The Wii...not so much.
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Rompehamster
03/18/09

@Perfec7: I think the wii has some stellar titles. The problem with the wii is that it is incapable of playing 3rd party franchises that it helped create. It can only play enhanced versions of old games, or play games from retro systems.

Many of the famous franchises the started on a nintendo console are now allied with the PS360.

Final Fantasy(NES)-> Final Fantasy XIII(PS360)

Street Fighter 2(SNES)-> Street Fighter 4(PS360)
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The Cap'n
03/18/09

@Rompehamster: The Nintendo franchises seem to come out perfectly ok on it. If developers didn't try to shove square pegs into round holes (Dead Rising is the most pilloried example), and would do more Madworlds and Deadly Creatures (Deadly Creatureses?) or something like the Conduit, which looks like it's been optimized for the wii's strengths/weaknesses, it wouldn't be a problem.

Also, I feel weird crediting SF2 to the SNES when that felt like an inferior port of the arcade game.
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Hamsfork
03/17/09

In reply to So, How Many 360 Games Are Any Good?
Unfortunately every console has way more shovelware than actually good games. It's always been like that and probably will never change.
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Kobun
03/18/09

@Hamsfork: You poor Dreamcast-less child. You have my pity. :(
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Alternate
03/17/09

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Thats not too bad. I mean, 13% as a whole kind of sounds bad, but thinking that that is 48 whole games that last around 10 hours each, not including multiplayer and replays. Thats 480 hours of good, quality entertainment.

I shall also don my flamesuit whilst wondering out loud how many of those 48 titles are multi platform.
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WFROSE
03/17/09

@Alternate: They will know, Helghan belongs to the Helghast: Also skips the 49% of 'decent' games and niche titles, too
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Kobun
03/18/09

@WFROSE: This survey by being focused on disc only retail releases that a parent may purchase for a child ignores stuff on XBLA like Pac-Man C.E., Braid, Carcassonne, etc.
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Obey__
03/17/09

In reply to So, How Many 360 Games Are Any Good?
This is fun. Do the Wii next! I'd really like to see what the odds. Though i bet they wouldn't be all that great. Who knows though, you could surprise the crap out of a lot of us.
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The Cap'n
03/18/09

@Obey__: why don't we just do all the systems? I really have a hard time believing that the ratios are going to vary by more than a few percentage points for any of the consoles (throw the handhelds in this too; why exclude the little guys?)

If I had to guess the outlier for the last few gens, I'd have to guess the Gamecube, just because there are so few games for it that the quality will skew it more than with the others.
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JetPogi
03/17/09

In reply to So, How Many 360 Games Are Any Good?
I wish there was someway for gamestop to require its employees to tell their customer the game they picked sucks but this is on an opinion basis so it'd be hard.
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TRT-X
03/18/09

@JetPogi: Yeah, that makes sense...talk a customer out of buying a game. Why not just tell them to go to Best Buy and get it on launch day instead of reserving a copy while they're at it?
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The_Saint
03/17/09

In reply to So, How Many 360 Games Are Any Good?
I don't make my mom buy me anything anymore -I'm pushing 30. She knows better than to try to get me something that I don't already have anyway...

Besides- that's what I got a wife for.
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L
03/17/09

@The_Saint: SPOILED! UNGRATEFUL & SPOILED BRAT! THERE ARE INFECTED PEOPLE IN AFRICA AND YOU'RE SO SPOILED YOUR OWN MOTHER KNOWS SHE COULDN'T GET YOU ANYTHING YOU DON'T ALREADY HAVE.

...SPOILED!
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dunetiger - he's up on the effin' roof!
03/18/09

@L:

No, there aren't. I killed them all. Check my gamerscore.
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jasu78
03/17/09

In reply to So, How Many 360 Games Are Any Good?
Poor Crackdown... never getting the respect it deserves for being one of the best sandbox games out there in terms of actually being able to control yourself while driving or shooting enemies and just generally having fun.
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stealthpengu
03/17/09

Crackdown? What?? There was a game with my Halo 3 demo??!
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soulgrunt
03/17/09

@stealthpengu: lol. the only reason it sold copies.
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TRT-X
03/18/09

@soulgrunt: False. The Halo 3 demo was the only reason you "non-typical gamer" bought this game.

The demo was genuinely fun and the reason I sought this game out...even when it had been out for a year by the time I got my 360.

While I was talking with the clerk (this is at GameStop) he was telling me stories about the complaints he was getting from "fratboy types" that tried to sell the game back after the Halo 3 beta "ended" and realized that they couldn't get squat because of all the OTHER people trying the same thing.

But I bought it used, and I still go back to it every once in a while for some good clean violent fun.
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Kobun
03/18/09

@jasu78: I just bought Crackdown ($12.99 with free shipping from Newegg) because of this topic.
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That One Guy
03/17/09

In reply to So, How Many 360 Games Are Any Good?
I heard Lee Carvallo's Putting Challenge is on the Xbox360
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Bernoulli
03/17/09

@shrek187:

Do you want to play again?
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Skyburnbright
03/17/09

@Bernoulli:

Welcome to Lee Carvello's putting challenge. I am Carvello. Now chose a club... You have chosen a 3 wood. May I suggest a putter? 3 wood. Now enter the force of your swing, I suggest feather touch. You have entered power drive, now push 7 - 8 - 7 to swing. (pushes buttons, ball lands) ball is in parking lot. Would you like to play again... You have selected No.
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Miksho
03/18/09

@Skyburnbright: Way to not leave any quotes for the rest of us.

Motherfucker.
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Benny
03/17/09

In reply to So, How Many 360 Games Are Any Good?
Glad to know not to let a mom buy a game at random... I am preparing for the anti360 crew to come on board now :p
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phinehas
03/17/09

@Benny: I'm waiting for the anti-mom crew.
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Dangeresque (Kojima-san doesn't have to make Metal Gear any more)
03/18/09

@phinehas: I'm waiting for the anti-tank crew.
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dunetiger - he's up on the effin' roof!
03/18/09

@Dangeresque... Too?:

I'm waiting for the anti-aircraft crew.
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-MasterDex-
02/10/09

In reply to Report: Game Industry Spent $823M Shilling Games In '08
€823 million is waaay to much to be spending a year, especially now in this economic climate. I reckon even half that amount would be sufficient enough.
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Adnoz
02/10/09

@-MasterDex-: $, not €, bit of a difference.
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-MasterDex-
02/11/09

@Adnoz: lol, only noticed that now. I'm so used to using the $ key to type €, I did it without thinking.

Quite a lot more than a 'bit of a difference' though :P
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