Since the beginning of history, people have fought in the name of God; bending to the inventive demands of their fickle deity. And screaming for righteousness, they not only spill the blood of their enemies as well as their own.
The purpose behind this bloodshed, however; goes beyond simple explanations of religion or notions of justice. The truth is buried deep within those who wage the wars. Since the beginning of this planet, a memory has been engraved on the genes of all living things. A memory of fighting. Humans seek to defend their actions in the name of truth. The act of fighting is itself a true act! Without this truth, the fire will perish.
To learn the way, ask your own flesh and blood, because ones flesh is the door to the truth. To master the way, ask your own Ken or fist. Because complete knowledge of ones’ flesh, blood and fist is what creates one’s Tekken, and Tekken is the meaning of life! #tekken6
@tyrannotaur: For a mediocre game like this, doubt it.
Yes, if you still think the game play is going to sell this game then you are nothing more than a fool. Sex is the primary selling point of this game, simple as that. #bayonetta
Having played this game I can say, although I enjoy it alot, it is in no way comparable to StreetFighter. In Tekken there seems to be loads of moves but alot of them are completely useless in any practical sense against anything other than the CPU.
In Street Fighter you have a handful of moves but each one is integral to the character.
@velvet396: that's kinda what i was thinking. Proportionally, Bayonetta 360 has done almost twice as well as any of the titles AJ mentioned. Also, weren't there reports of a few out of stock issues? I'm not saying that those would've turned the tide, but maybe managed to knock it over 50%. #bayonetta
Although a lot of work goes into these fighting games, even fairly low sales must make them a killing. They certainly can't be nearly as expensive as your average current-gen title. Maybe Street Fighter IV comes close, but I still doubt it cost nearly as much as something like Resident Evil 5. #tekken6
Ive found the online mode isnt as bad as people have made out, its easily on par with SFIV in my opinion. The load times arent that big of a deal once you have installed the game.
Most of the matches I have had have been fine apart from one. In that match the input lag was so bad I wasnt sure which character I was. Seriously. #tekken6
This article title is a xenophobic attack against the Japanese people. The implied meaning is that despite the Xbox 360 version being the better reviewed version, the Japanese didn't go for it through some sense of petty Anti-Americanism. Yes Bayonetta sold more on PlayStation 3 in Japan, but that's because it has a larger user base. But then FIFA Football sells more in Europe on PS3 then the 360 because the PS3 has a bigger user base. COD: Modern Warfare 2 will sell more in the USA then on the PS3, because it has the larger user base there.
And before you say I'm reading too much into the piece, articles do not exist in a vacuum, they are built on the foundations of other articles on the subject, and in this case the other articles on Kotaku that have been proudly celebrating the 360 version (nothing wrong with that), but the 'no surprise there' smacks of a nation still boasting about the Hiroshima bomb. Let's all step back from the hate. #bayonetta
@Andronix:
You go on a huge tirade about some illusionary xenophobic attack and in the same paragraph you point out the reason behind the comment you're attaching your own skewed view to.
Did you not think after posting about how the reason it outsold the 360 version was because of the larger user base that that SAME larger user base was the reason for the "No surprise there" comment. It's widely known that the PS3 has a much larger install base in Japan so it's hardly surprising the PS3 version sold more.
I mean damn how the hell did you even come up with the rest of that crap? Your entire post smacks of a person trying to make something from nothing. You need to step back from the crazy. #bayonetta
@Andronix: Compare the user bases of 360/PS3 in Japan. The sales mirror user base. Also the Anti-American sentiment is a double edge that goes back long before the bombing. That sentiment also lead Japan to push themselves like the West to make their econ second only to the states so companies like Sony can exist. More over though is just like Odin said you state the cause of the outsell in two other regions then fall back on racism in Japan? That just seems silly. #bayonetta
@Andronix: Funny, I don't remember ever being American, let alone a patriotic American. The only truth in your post is that you're a damn fool trying to stir up trouble by trying to forcefully insert racism where it doesn't exist. #bayonetta
PS3... It's Dynamite! Well, no... Not really. In terms of percentages, the 360 version is selling better. Better attatch rate. What do you expect when the PS3 port is admittedly poor?
I won't be getting it either way. Not my kind of game. I'm just annoyed by this sort of thing. 3 years into the PS3's life and people still haven't learned it? By this point, you can't make the lame-ass excuse of "difficult architecture" As Itagaki said, the NES was worlds harder than the PS3. 3 years was plenty of time to learn the damned thing, and I think the SDKs have been out for 4 or 5 years.
@bobtheduck in Korea: Not really. In terms of percentages, the 360 version is selling better. Better attatch rate.
That's pretty much grasping for straws. The 360 is selling so poorly in Japan that the attach rate is higher even though the game sells pathetically low on the platform.
What do you expect when the PS3 port is admittedly poor?
Eloquently put, the two above quotes have absolutely no relation to eachother. The attach rate is higher for the 360 because the 360 has barely sold a million consoles in Japan, not because of game iteration differences.
The bottom line is the PS3 version of the game sold better. No point trying to put a spin on this, we're not PR people. #bayonetta
@jandlecack: Exactly, attach rate is only important for Microsoft/Sony. Pure raw numbers are what matters to developers. PS3 sold more copies, so they made more money with the PS3 version. End of story. #bayonetta
@jandlecack: I think it's only fair that the 360 uses in Japan the excuses the PS3 gets in US. The 360 has a better attach rate, the PS3 has far more than double the number of 360's sold in Japan but didn't show it in the software. #bayonetta
@bobtheduck in Korea: PS3 usually gets the shit end of the shit for ports, I know I develop. But thats changing, games are starting to be made on the PS3 now, then ported to 360 more than before. And with the PS3 gaing a stronger foothold in sales, developers will take it more seriously. #bayonetta
@kNZA: Wow, what kind of twisted logic is this? I believe how much time you spend playing games is a better indicator than how many games you buy. #bayonetta
@jandlecack: You must have missed the article pointing out that the 360 version sold out everywhere ... they didn't produce enough, it would have been higher had more copies been available. #bayonetta
@jandlecack: Agree with you all the way. When the console is released in the US it will sell more on the 360. I still wont buy it. Don't know why anyone would. #bayonetta
Ya well the game is fantastic.
As someone who played the hell out of each in the series, 6 feels amazing. They've reworked the animations from the ground up, everyone looks fantastic and everyone is as balanced as ever.
Anyone whose bashing Tekken 6 is simply not a tekken fan plain and simple.
@Gantz: Your Trusted Friend in Science.: Hey kid, i know we talked about running through Campaign together, but its kind of hard since A. I can't find it in stores here, and
B. There is no co-op campaign.
When i do get it, however, it's on like your mom at prom. That's an acceptable phrase, right? #tekken6
@SPECIALciaNAPKIN: Aww wait hold on. I want in on some of this action. What system are you on? If it's PS3, add me; my PSN is xeleion. And co-op Scenario is supposed to be added in an update before the end of the year. And it better hurry up; I need to beat that Nightmare Train level. #tekken6
@Gantz: Your Trusted Friend in Science.: "tekken is very well known for it's button-mashability and noob-safe characters(most notoriously, eddy). then add to that the game's focus on juggling combos and spam friendly timing windows and you'll come to realize that balance isn't exactly the name of the game."
@kainzero: in SF? NEVER lost to a button masher... now in Tekken I have seen pros die to Eddie or christie mashers. again, I dont hate the game... but forget about it when it comes to that man. #tekken6
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360: 45,000/1.1Mil = 4.09% attach rate
PS3: 93,000/3.7Mil = 2.51% attach rate
Ya they're actually way more impressive considering there are more than three times more PS3s. #bayonetta
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Are collectors rushing to buy copies in the hopes of driving up secondary market prices? #bayonetta
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The purpose behind this bloodshed, however; goes beyond simple explanations of religion or notions of justice. The truth is buried deep within those who wage the wars. Since the beginning of this planet, a memory has been engraved on the genes of all living things. A memory of fighting. Humans seek to defend their actions in the name of truth. The act of fighting is itself a true act! Without this truth, the fire will perish.
To learn the way, ask your own flesh and blood, because ones flesh is the door to the truth. To master the way, ask your own Ken or fist. Because complete knowledge of ones’ flesh, blood and fist is what creates one’s Tekken, and Tekken is the meaning of life! #tekken6
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Yes, if you still think the game play is going to sell this game then you are nothing more than a fool. Sex is the primary selling point of this game, simple as that. #bayonetta
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In Street Fighter you have a handful of moves but each one is integral to the character.
Just my opinion. #tekken6
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Most of the matches I have had have been fine apart from one. In that match the input lag was so bad I wasnt sure which character I was. Seriously. #tekken6
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And before you say I'm reading too much into the piece, articles do not exist in a vacuum, they are built on the foundations of other articles on the subject, and in this case the other articles on Kotaku that have been proudly celebrating the 360 version (nothing wrong with that), but the 'no surprise there' smacks of a nation still boasting about the Hiroshima bomb. Let's all step back from the hate. #bayonetta
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You go on a huge tirade about some illusionary xenophobic attack and in the same paragraph you point out the reason behind the comment you're attaching your own skewed view to.
Did you not think after posting about how the reason it outsold the 360 version was because of the larger user base that that SAME larger user base was the reason for the "No surprise there" comment. It's widely known that the PS3 has a much larger install base in Japan so it's hardly surprising the PS3 version sold more.
I mean damn how the hell did you even come up with the rest of that crap? Your entire post smacks of a person trying to make something from nothing. You need to step back from the crazy. #bayonetta
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You moron.
As soon as I read the headline, I knew it would be referencing the huge install base of the PS3 in Japan comparred to the 360.
Hell, anybody who reads Kotaku enough to join should be familiar with that piece of information. #bayonetta
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We have different opinions, but there is no need to hate is there my friend?! #bayonetta
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I won't be getting it either way. Not my kind of game. I'm just annoyed by this sort of thing. 3 years into the PS3's life and people still haven't learned it? By this point, you can't make the lame-ass excuse of "difficult architecture" As Itagaki said, the NES was worlds harder than the PS3. 3 years was plenty of time to learn the damned thing, and I think the SDKs have been out for 4 or 5 years.
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That's pretty much grasping for straws. The 360 is selling so poorly in Japan that the attach rate is higher even though the game sells pathetically low on the platform.
What do you expect when the PS3 port is admittedly poor?
Eloquently put, the two above quotes have absolutely no relation to eachother. The attach rate is higher for the 360 because the 360 has barely sold a million consoles in Japan, not because of game iteration differences.
The bottom line is the PS3 version of the game sold better. No point trying to put a spin on this, we're not PR people. #bayonetta
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The higher attach rate means that a higher percentage of owners are actually gamers.
There were roughly double the number of Bayonetta purchases PER CONSOLE on the 360 platform.
That is something ALL devs and publishers want to know, not just MS and Sony. #bayonetta
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As someone who played the hell out of each in the series, 6 feels amazing. They've reworked the animations from the ground up, everyone looks fantastic and everyone is as balanced as ever.
Anyone whose bashing Tekken 6 is simply not a tekken fan plain and simple.
Also, here, the only tekken review that matters.
[www.fightersgeneration.com] #tekken6
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B. There is no co-op campaign.
When i do get it, however, it's on like your mom at prom. That's an acceptable phrase, right? #tekken6
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@SPECIALciaNAPKIN: Ya unfortunately we'll have to wait for them to patch in co-op this winter. But yes, I've been practicing ;D #tekken6
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but it is a good game though. #tekken6
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he said it better than I could. :) #tekken6
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nothing personal, but I hope it does well anyway...
Does anyone know when this story will end?
I swear Tekken is like the Neverending Story of video games... #tekken6
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