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    Here's That Mario Mention in Assassin's Creed II

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    11/18/09

    In reply to Here's That Mario Mention in Assassin's Creed II
    hehehe. Perfect VO for that part.
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    Image of Protector one Protector one
    11/18/09

    In reply to Here's That Mario Mention in Assassin's Creed II
    That was a great!
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    Image of BoTheDestroyer BoTheDestroyer
    11/18/09

    In reply to Here's That Mario Mention in Assassin's Creed II
    You know who that dude reminds me of?
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    Image of AnOkayLumberjack AnOkayLumberjack
    11/18/09

    In reply to Here's That Mario Mention in Assassin's Creed II
    Isn't the phrase "fourth wall"? #assassinscreedii
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    Blore07 promoted this comment AnOkayLumberjack was starred AnOkayLumberjack was unstarred
    Image of Optimistic Prime Optimistic Prime
    11/18/09

    @AnOkayLumberjack: You would be correct. #assassinscreedii
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    Image of GrimesFace GrimesFace
    11/18/09

    @AnOkayLumberjack: well it would be fourth wall if the characters were literally speaking to the audience, or talking about the fact that they were in a video game. I've never heard of the third wall, but I assume its just like referencing another work.
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    IvanDashSmith promoted this comment GrimesFace was starred GrimesFace was unstarred
    Image of IvanDashSmith IvanDashSmith
    11/18/09

    @GrimesFace: I have never heard of the third wall either. It sounds like someone doesn't like calling it breaking the fourth wall because the character isn't literally speaking to the audience as they would speak to another character on stage. So because it is less pronounced, it can't for some reason be called the same thing. This kind of stuff happens all the time. People over-analyze a term and think certain conditions don't apply, so they feel the need to reinvent a description which was met already.
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    Image of Sean Lee Fowler Sean Lee Fowler
    11/18/09

    @IvanDashSmith: The 4th wall is the wall in front of the audience that they can see through, breaking it being talking directly to them or running off the stage to interact with them. So, the third wall would simply be one of the literal walls on the stage.

    In other words, it's not a theatrical term.
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    IvanDashSmith promoted this comment Sean Lee Fowler was starred Sean Lee Fowler was unstarred
    Image of IvanDashSmith IvanDashSmith
    11/18/09

    @Sean Lee Fowler: Thank you for proving my point.

    The game is breaking the fourth wall by showing the audience (gamer playing the game) it knows of events outside of it's own narrative, in this case a reference which exists in the world of the audience member.
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    Image of Optimistic Prime Optimistic Prime
    11/20/09

    @IvanDashSmith: Breaking the fourth wall is when the action of the play stops and the audience is addressed directly. Often to comment on one of the other characters or his situation.

    In this video, he's not breaking any wall at all. This is just a pun put in by the writers. At no point does Mario acknowledge that there's an audience.
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    Image of IvanDashSmith IvanDashSmith
    11/20/09

    @Optimistic Prime: Again I feel like the fact that the game is referencing something outside its own internal universe, within the confines of its walls, that it is breaking the fourth wall. It is specifically calling out to the user, through the 4th wall, that it knows about content outside of its own walls. It is not directly saying it to the player through narration directed at the user, or calling itself a game, so I can see why everyone feels the need to redefine something which (although working perfectly well) is not descriptive enough to work in all similar instances.

    And when looking it all up, I ran across information about the 5th wall (never finding anything about the 3rd wall.)

    [en.wikipedia.org]

    In this case, the fact that the game is referencing another game, another fiction in another universe, seems more along the 5th wall lines.
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    Image of Clint_Eastwood_part_2 Clint_Eastwood_part_2
    11/18/09

    In reply to Here's That Mario Mention in Assassin's Creed II
    Will uncle Mario be playable durring the sex mini game? That would be a pretty incredible 2 player experience. #assassinscreedii
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    Thut promoted this comment Clint_Eastwood_part_2 was starred Clint_Eastwood_part_2 was unstarred
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    11/18/09

    @Clint_Eastwood_part_2: I wonder if he will invite kids to "do the Mario." #assassinscreedii
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    11/18/09

    @Thut: I kinda want to cry now... #assassinscreedii
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    Image of Thut Thut
    11/18/09

    @Clint_Eastwood_part_2: Hahaha! #assassinscreedii
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    Image of Tom Servo Tom Servo
    11/17/09

    In reply to Here's That Mario Mention in Assassin's Creed II
    It's known as the fourth wall. It comes from the fact that on a stage, there are three walls, and one invisible wall that separates the audience from the stage.

    It's what separates reality from fiction. #assassinscreedii
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    JibbyJam promoted this comment Tom Servo was starred Tom Servo was unstarred
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    11/18/09

    @Tom Servo: This man is correct, except that what is on the stage is not accurately described as fiction. It is theatre, in whatever form that takes. #assassinscreedii
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    Image of tim rogers tim rogers
    11/18/09

    @Tom Servo: yeah, i think owen was making something of a word-play in his post by referring to it as a third wall. this sort of thing, were it a play, wouldn't "break the fourth wall", technically, because that would require it to look at the player and say something like "oh hey btw you're playing a videogame right now".

    in this clip from the game, we see a scene where a man, named "mario", indicates to a person who has not seen him in a long time that it is a-him, mario. this fits into the context of the game because

    1. mario is italian and italians have comedic accents
    2. mario might be unrecognizable from the last time the main character saw him

    however, the player outside the game knows "it's-a me, mario" as a (non-copyrighted, non-trademarked) catch phrase from a popular series of videogames.

    so technically the joke is not breaking the fourth wall. instead, it is banging its head against the third wall while the audience titters and all of the other characters in the play go on with their lines as though nothing out of the ordinary is happening. #assassinscreedii
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    11/18/09

    @tim rogers: This man gets it.
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    Image of Amsterdaam Amsterdaam
    11/18/09

    @tim rogers: Actually, Servo up there is correct, because Owen's statement "Here's video of the third wall-breaking inside joke, which is so mainstream it's not inside. And it doesn't really break the third wall, either." clearly implies that he is under the impression that communicating directly to the audience is considered breaking the 'third wall'.
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    tim rogers promoted this comment Amsterdaam was starred Amsterdaam was unstarred
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    11/19/09

    @Amsterdaam: i didn't say it "broke" the "third wall", either, just that it banged its head against it.

    if it had "broken" the third wall, then we would have seen some damage done to some piece of architecture existing in the game world.

    #speakup
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    Image of (Starman) Starman (Starman) Starman
    11/17/09

    In reply to Here's That Mario Mention in Assassin's Creed II
    Bloody lord, 30 seconds of buffering (when moving the slider) just to play a 19 second clip?

    And of course that Mario mention is just a fancy one-liner, and not really anything else.
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    Image of bakagaijin bakagaijin
    11/17/09

    In reply to Here's That Mario Mention in Assassin's Creed II
    Haha. Good stuff. I love little nods like this.

    On a side note, isn't it ridiculous we have to watch a 30 second commercial before watching a 19 second video? #assassinscreedii
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    Image of c0ldy c0ldy
    11/17/09

    @bakagaijin: I highly suggest you use firefox with the adblock+ extension.
    It completely bypasses lil ads such as those at the beginning of videos and on most webpages. #assassinscreedii
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    bakagaijin promoted this comment c0ldy was starred c0ldy was unstarred
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    11/18/09

    @c0ldy: I didn't know that. That's the best news I've heard all day, thanks!



    #speakup
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    Image of DRaGZ DRaGZ
    11/17/09

    In reply to Here's That Mario Mention in Assassin's Creed II
    Third wall?

    Did you mean fourth wall? #assassinscreedii
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    Image of Foggen Foggen
    11/17/09

    In reply to Here's That Mario Mention in Assassin's Creed II
    Typically people break the fourth wall. #assassinscreedii
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    Image of Salen Salen
    11/18/09

    @Foggen: Not in this economy. At least they're not outsourcing their wall breaking.
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    Image of psnPyrrhic psnPyrrhic
    11/17/09

    In reply to Here's That Mario Mention in Assassin's Creed II
    I sat through a wal-mart commercial for this? #assassinscreedii
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    Image of sunpop sunpop
    11/17/09

    @psnPyrrhic: Pfft you light weight I sat through a crest commercial, for a scene I already saw in game. #assassinscreedii
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    Image of Handbanana37 Handbanana37
    11/17/09

    @sunpop: I didn't sit through anything. Suckers. #assassinscreedii
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    (Starman) Starman promoted this comment Handbanana37 was starred Handbanana37 was unstarred
    Image of (Starman) Starman (Starman) Starman
    11/17/09

    @Handbanana37: <3 Adblock Plus. #assassinscreedii
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    11/17/09

    @(Starman) Starman: Damn right Starman... Damn right. #assassinscreedii
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    Image of jaronimo jaronimo
    11/18/09

    @(Starman) Starman: wow, really? there would have been an ad if I hadn't installed Adblock?
    that shit's the shit! #assassinscreedii
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    Image of jayislost jayislost
    11/18/09

    @psnPyrrhic: Haha. I got the actually pretty entertaining Bing "The Shining" commercial. (Might've been better than the clip.)
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    11/18/09

    @jayislost: Adblock is sooo cool, it is the new cool kid on the block.... no wait... new cool kids are all about the commercials and getting what is shown in them. ^^
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    11/18/09

    @fELIXADER: I've got ABP and still had to watch it. What's up with that?

    #speakup
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    Edited by jayislost at 11/18/09 1:37 PM jayislost was starred jayislost was unstarred
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    11/19/09

    @jayislost: I am not sure but sometimes you have to update the Blocking list of Adblock.

    #speakup
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    Image of Communist Pope Communist Pope
    11/17/09

    In reply to Here's That Mario Mention in Assassin's Creed II
    I literally just got to that about 20 minutes ago, shortly before calling it a night on the game. Cracked me up something fierce. All the "[word x]-a's" have been giving me the giggles anyhow, but that was really choice.

    And yes, I'm really hoping that this Mario teams up with a Luigi at some point in the game.
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    Image of NeVeRMoRe666 NeVeRMoRe666
    11/17/09

    In reply to Here's That Mario Mention in Assassin's Creed II
    Here it is for my fellow non-US Kotakuites: #assassinscreedii
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    Image of NeVeRMoRe666 NeVeRMoRe666
    11/17/09

    @NeVeRMoRe666: Oh wait. Nevermind the link above works. Oh well, here's another one. #assassinscreedii
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    Image of (Starman) Starman (Starman) Starman
    11/17/09

    @NeVeRMoRe666: You're still a god in my book for saving us from that horrendous Buffering Scenario above. #assassinscreedii
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    Image of kakarotthemonkey kakarotthemonkey
    11/17/09

    In reply to Here's That Mario Mention in Assassin's Creed II
    There's no such thing as breaking the "third wall." The term is breaking the fourth wall but that's when the audience is being directly addressed by an actor. That isn't what is happening in this clip. /drama police

    It's a funny nod to Super Mario though.
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    Benguin promoted this comment Edited by kakarotthemonkey at 11/17/09 8:56 PM kakarotthemonkey was starred kakarotthemonkey was unstarred
    Image of Benguin Benguin
    11/17/09

    @kakarotthemonkey: If the fourth wall is between the stage and the audience, maybe the third wall is to the left? #assassinscreedii
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    11/17/09

    @kakarotthemonkey: We're in a recession! We can't afford FOUR walls! #assassinscreedii
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    (Zombie) Jölan promoted this comment Cpryd001 was starred Cpryd001 was unstarred
    Image of Monolith Monolith
    11/17/09

    @kakarotthemonkey: Yeah, the drama nerd in me was bothered by that too.
    Except it isn't just directly addressing the audience. The term refers to the 4th wall being one that encapsulates the audience and puts them in the world of the play. Breaking the 4th wall may consist of talking to the audience, but it can also refer to any action they do in the play that intentionally reminds the audience that it's just a play, or references something only in the real world. As such, this does slightly break the 4th wall...
    Not the 3rd wall though, that's definitely off. #assassinscreedii
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    11/17/09

    In reply to Here's That Mario Mention in Assassin's Creed II
    Breaking the fourth wall would entail Mario looking directly into the camera and addressing the audience directly, rather than this. I'm kind of disappointed that this is all over the web, though- I got a good laugh out of it when I saw it in-game. #assassinscreedii
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