@danieltolin: I did, I had it waay after release on one of those Budget PC Game disks, I didnt really think much of it.
I'm not against the game as such, more the whole, Gothic Alice thing, its everywhere, every single "artist" on deviant art has some sort of drawing of the cheshire cat looking dark, heck, you can buy Gothic looking alice in wonderland clothes and costumes near where I live.
However, I wont pretend to comment on this game, as nothing has really been seen of it.
I hope it turns out great, its obviously highly anticipated by a lot of people and theres nothing worse than seeing somthing with such a following go down and dissapoint after people have spent sometimes years working on it.
@Blore07: I've been done with the whole "dark/apocalyptic = cool" phase for over a decade now. It's an easy/lazy direction in which to take a project. #returnofalice
@sandwiches: Took a while but theres at least one person on here that agrees with me.
It makes my blood boil every time I hear some inept "omg leik its sooo dark" kid go on about Tim Burton.
The whole thing is just one massive, unimaginative cliche. #returnofalice
@Blore07: And as far as putting a timeline to the "dark" angle is concerned, things were dark well-before American McGee came around. Try Blade Runner or even Empire Strikes Back, for starters. And, yes, those are good examples of dark-themes. #returnofalice
@Maddogdw: You all sound like sonic fans, constantly clinging to that one game while taking all the shit they send you hoping for that greatness to come again. So now they stick a sequel in front of your noses so you rejoice, thinking that they won't fuck up a sequel. #returnofalice
I always found developers who brand their own name onto their games a strange phenomenon, though for some reason McGee sticks out in my mind. As far as I know, his major achievement was being part of the Id team back in the heyday. His solo titles have ranged from fairly decent, in the case of American Mcgee's Alice, to atrocities, ala American Mcgee's Bad Day L.A. It strikes me as a bit deluded, if not outright narcissistic. It really is something that the industry could us less of*. I suppose in the case of Bad Day, it could be seen as a sort of martyrdom so as to spare the rest of the development team from the flames and pitchforks.
* With exceptions to Sid Meier, the only man in my eyes who warrants such ego stroking pretentiousness, what with being the granddaddy of awesome and all. #returnofalice
@amcog: Actually, it was EA that started putting developer's names on fronts of boxes back in the 80s. They thought it was kind of neat, giving credit where it was due. On the other hand, those were simpler times; I don't think developers back then used the kinds of teams that Molyneux and McGee have access to these days. #returnofalice
@DrLilo: You know, I was thinking about saying something along those lines, but I didn't think it was worth the risk of getting shat on by Burton fanboys. #returnofalice
@Hyperfludd: I figured it's 50/50 or more girls than boys, but I used "fanboys" because the masculine term of a word can usually incorporate both sexes. -shrugs- #returnofalice
@Zaphod Beeblebrox the 1st: I don't usually think like that about games. Not any games. This was really the first time where my head nearly exploded. #returnofalice
Please do not make this a PC only game.
Bring it to the PS3 and 360 too. Hell, bring it to the Wii, I don't care! Just let people who don't have gaming PCs enjoy the game. #returnofalice
@TheMightyEthan: Unfortunately I don't have the cash to do that.
But I loved the first one so much. And plus, if they branch out, they'll make more money. #returnofalice
@Whizkid103: I'm sure you could scrounge for an upgrade by 2011, when this game will release. Just put aside like $20 a month and you should be good to go. #returnofalice
@Whizkid103: You don't have to worry anyways - they (as in Riccitello) announced back in Feb that the game would be coming to the PC,PS3 and 360.
Considering it's EA, they probably are working on it with the PS3 as the lead dev console as well.
"It's hard not to get excited about the return of American McGee's Alice."
Actually, it's really easy. Watch:
I'm not a 12-year-old goth girl, and I don't really give a toss about this game. About the only thing less original than adolescently 'dark' takes on fairy tales is adolescently 'dark' takes on the Alice stories.
And, yeah, Tim Burton has seriously lost any of the goodwill or credibility he had in the days of Beetlejuice, PeeWee, and Nightmare Before Christmas (the latter of which owes more credit to Henry Selick's skills than to his, anyway).
Sorry, I've got swine flu, I'm feverish and grumpy. #returnofalice
@bakana: This has nothing to do with Tim Burton. Nobody cares about him anyway. This a separate property that is unrelated to the upcoming film "Wonderland" and its video game tie-ins, but you already knew that, right? #returnofalice
@mintycrys is HOT for Bayonetta: I think the main bit that most people have forgotten is that the first game came out in 2000, which was really before any of the "dark fairytale" fads took off. The first game wasn't made for "12-year-old goth girl[s]" but rather a core gamer audience. American McGee's Alice was a horror platformer instead of a goth adventure. The backlash of Tim Burton-fan-hatred is a little unfounded. #returnofalice
@WaywardScribble: I was going to say that, but I felt that the people I would have said it to wouldn't have understood the concept of "dark fairytales before Hot Topic". #returnofalice
@zer0zen: Poor American McGee has to wait all the way until 2011 for a chance to redeem himself after a string of subpar and otherwise uninteresting games.
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Havent we all been through this enough times to want something new? #returnofalice
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I'm not against the game as such, more the whole, Gothic Alice thing, its everywhere, every single "artist" on deviant art has some sort of drawing of the cheshire cat looking dark, heck, you can buy Gothic looking alice in wonderland clothes and costumes near where I live.
However, I wont pretend to comment on this game, as nothing has really been seen of it.
I hope it turns out great, its obviously highly anticipated by a lot of people and theres nothing worse than seeing somthing with such a following go down and dissapoint after people have spent sometimes years working on it.
...unless its an MMO! #returnofalice
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It makes my blood boil every time I hear some inept "omg leik its sooo dark" kid go on about Tim Burton.
The whole thing is just one massive, unimaginative cliche. #returnofalice
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* With exceptions to Sid Meier, the only man in my eyes who warrants such ego stroking pretentiousness, what with being the granddaddy of awesome and all. #returnofalice
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Two games from that era that I bought back to back and played to death. #returnofalice
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This is the best teaser picture ever. I want to see this in the sequel.
Giant killer smokestack snail? Check.
Collapsing tower? Check.
Psycho chick facing danger head-on with naught but a butcher knife? Fucking check.
Please, McGee, don't screw this up. I'm begging you.
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THAT'S TOO LONG TO WAIT NOA NOA NOA NOA NOA! #returnofalice
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Bring it to the PS3 and 360 too. Hell, bring it to the Wii, I don't care! Just let people who don't have gaming PCs enjoy the game. #returnofalice
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But I loved the first one so much. And plus, if they branch out, they'll make more money. #returnofalice
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Considering it's EA, they probably are working on it with the PS3 as the lead dev console as well.
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Actually, it's really easy. Watch:
I'm not a 12-year-old goth girl, and I don't really give a toss about this game. About the only thing less original than adolescently 'dark' takes on fairy tales is adolescently 'dark' takes on the Alice stories.
And, yeah, Tim Burton has seriously lost any of the goodwill or credibility he had in the days of Beetlejuice, PeeWee, and Nightmare Before Christmas (the latter of which owes more credit to Henry Selick's skills than to his, anyway).
Sorry, I've got swine flu, I'm feverish and grumpy. #returnofalice
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*SPOILER*
But didn't he die in the first one?
*END SPOILER* #returnofalice
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I never did play Alice, unfortunately. #returnofalice
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