I purchased an xbox 360 yesterday after visiting a friends house and loving the netflix streaming and the new mtg game. Been considering for a while, but this pushed me over the edge. I'm amazed at xbox live. I probably sound like someone who just stepped out of a timewarp.
@dry-roasted-peanuts: I finally learned how to bake a proper baked potato the other day, and I'm doing that again now. I preheat the oven to 500 degrees, rinse the potato in water, cover it with canola oil, sprinkle salt on it, wrap in foil, and put it on the rack for about an hour an a half to two hours depending on size. I would have baked some brownies instead, but I'm out of eggs.
@Kobun: I have figured out how to make ! sauce from scratch within the last month or so (fresh tomatoes and all). My recipe has been honed to perfection. We should have a pot luck, you guys
@SexyPants: Someone is gonna use the fact that I mistakenly wrote "Graphical Designer" instead of "Graphic Designer" when translated into Swedish the words are the exact same.
@Phydeaux: Maybe Live users don't need to feel better about their choice of service by bashing another service's routine maintenance as many Sony fanboys did with the recent (and long announced) maintenance time? Nah, I don't quite believe that. Give it time. The trolls will come out as always. They're a system independent breed.
@NitroAML: Nope. :p Needs more profanity and sexual orientation questioning. You also chose to refer to the system as "PS3" and not "Gaystation" or some other schoolyard slur.
@Bialia: Lucky you. Even when PSN is working perfectly... my PS3 gets constant DNS errors and won't stay logged in to PSN for more than 15 minutes at a time.
This after trying two different routers, trying both ethernet then wifi, setting a static IP for EVERY device on my network, putting the PS3 in the DMZ of my router, opening up all applicable ports (although DMZ should make that a moot point) manually inputting all of my network settings into the PS3, and sacrificing a small goat.
No other device on my network has such issues :( Maybe whatever they did during the downtime will help?
@robinandtami: I used to have similar issues. Turns out it was the wiring outside my house- it was exposed to the elements. No kidding. You didn't notice it when you were browsing the web, but it made staying connected to PSN a nightmare.
You have a 360 though, right, and you don't have any issues with it? I'm not the most technically proficient though- having a professional techie for a significant other has made me lazy. Is it possible there's something wrong with your PS3 itself? What you're experiencing is not normal. Calling tech support can suck though- the people manning the phones aren't usually equipped to help you the extra mile- it tends to be strictly "stick-to-the-script."
@FatalChaos: Yeah, I know, but I know he's not you. Perhaps his name was making me read yours differently all this time, though. :)
@Mucudadada: Official PS Ramen, I can see it now. Each package has a design of a PlayStation character, so they will all be collectible . Or even better, they should call it LittleBigRamen and it should include mini Sackboys.
@Saint Anima: Playstation 1 Symbol on one, PS2 symbol on another, PS3 symbol on another. Playstation Network Icon on a lid. Daxter Ratchet on one, Clank on another, Jak on one, Daxter on Another. Drake on one, Cole on another. Helghast on one, Hale on another. Sackboys on 50 different ones, and 50 different Sackgirls. A couple Ape Escape monkeys. Patapon shaped carrots and peas.
I can see this being profitable and overkill. But goshdarnit! It's Sony. They'll make it work... somehow... maybe?
well,i tried downloading Sam and Max again a few minutes ago,after actually paying for it this afternoon(6hrs ago)...and yup,its not even registering that i have paid for it now,it now has 1600 points back next to the full game(it did have a tick this afternoon)...but of course my account has still been raped of 1600 points
Well at least you don't have to pay for it..oh wait nvm. Good thing psn is free and works even if it is apparently less advanced but whats it matter when you can use it?
@sunpop: Hmmm...I dunno what you're talking about. My online gameplay is working just fine right now.
Oh...you mean it sucks that the store isn't working correctly? Oh, but that's not actually part of the Gold service. I could buy content without having to pay.
@octalass: Why do you get credit? The day yesterday was scheduled down time. That'd be like demanding a partial refund of a car payment because you had to spend the day getting the oil changed and tires rotated...
And today? It's not even down. You just can't buy anything. The online gameplay you're paying for is still readily available.
@octalass: Wow 28 cents. Maybe if the outage lasts through to the weekend, you can get yourself a soda pop. :p
This is annoying, sure, but the disappearance of a few Marketplace items will not impact the vast majority signing on today. The Ghostbusters code thing is probably aggravating those users though, particularly given yesterday's release downtime.
I recall similar minor issues creeping out from last fall's preemptive update outage. I know the team updating Live finished past 3 AM, so hopefully these issues will be gone once they wake up and resume work.
Another person who fails to see the point. For the five-millionth time, no one cares about losing out on "28 cents." What they want is to be credited for the TIME that was stolen from them. There is absolutely ZERO reason why MS should not credit everyone a day for this. It wouldn't hurt them one bit.
And in response to TRT-X's post - yes, it was scheduled. Scheduled like...a week ago. I paid for my current XBL subscription almost a year ago. MS putting up a notice a few days ago that it's happening does not change the fact they are essentially stealing from me. I don't care if it's half a day or a week. I paid for it and I'm not getting it.
This shouldn't be such a hard concept for people to grasp, yet every time MS does this we get the same really tired, hollow arguments about why it's fine for them to do it.
@KaneRobot: Ironic that we're accused of "tired hollow arguments" when people such as yourself post the same tired crap every time XBL so much as farts. You want reimbursement for XBL being down for a DAY? Pay attention next time you're walking into the grocery store, you'll probably pick up enough change off the ground in one trip to pay off TWO days of down time!
@Omnimon: So I see after getting sufficientlly steamrolled by the Logic Train in your previous attempt to make this argument, you've decided to turn tail and run to this one in hopes of trying to get people to side with you again.
Too bad, you still fail. The paid portion of XBL (online gameplay) is fully operation today. The only malfunctioning service is the free XBL store, which is available to all members.
Admit your defeat before the Logic Train circles back around and hits you again.
@Trey: If that's the case, I pray that he never owns a car. Cause if he ever did...god help him the first time he has to take it in for an oil change.
"Wait! You need my car for a day!? Well then I demand you reimburse me for a day's worth of payment on the vehicle. And I will NOT pay for you to do it!"
@KaneRobot: What they don't understand is that, even if the portion of the service is down that is free, the clock is ticking on said subscription. During said subscription time, I ESPECIALLY expect to be able to do what is normally free.
And the Logic Train is here, TRT-X, it's just one step away from yours. I do not advise that you or your buddies ever go into customer service or sales.
@TRT-X: You won't get it, but I'll give it one more shot. I pay a subscription for a higher service tier on a service platform. My expectations are that I will have access to the capabilities provided by the lower and higher tiers of service. If any portion of that service, lower or higher tier, is not being provided with a reasonable notice of it being down, I will expect that I am not being charged against my subscription during that time period (or that my subscription will be extended for that period of time).
The slippery slope argument is that if that is not the case, and the consumer expectation is not this high, services will deteriorate to the lowest acceptable levels in order to maximize the benefits to the service provider.
@Omnimon: So I guess there's no cable or satellite TV, Internet access, cellphones, restaurants, hotels, cars, electricity, or water and sewerage in this Utopia you live in? No service whatsoever guarantees 100% up-time. A one or two day outage for maintenance hardly equates to poor service, and the times in the past where outages had compromised the quality of Live, Microsoft gave away games as restitution.
@KaneRobot: For the five-millionth time, no one cares about losing out on "28 cents." What they want is to be credited for the TIME that was stolen from them.
The "timestolen from them!?" You've got to be kidding me. As noted by others, you've agreed to occasional maintenance in the TOS, and the odd outage here and there is hardly anything unusual from any paid subscription service nor reason enough to grab the pitchforks and torches.
@Omnimon: Here's why I "don't get it". There is nothing to get. You're paying for online service time, which is readily available. The marketplace, which is free to ALL members, both Silver and Gold...was the only thing unavailable during yesterday's troubles.
You claim that you have "lost a day" of Marketplace service. However that is NOT the case. Even after your subscription expires, you will still have access to the marketplace. You have lost nothing.
So I guess in that regard, you get your wish...Microsoft will in fact credit you one additional day of access to the XBLM. Actually, Microsoft will be crediting you an additional ETERNITY of access to the Marketplace. (Eternity of course being defined as today up until either your expiration or XBL's)
Like I said before, you're grasping at straws...and attempted to "retreat" from the original discussion (in which your argument was torn apart) to restart the exact same debate here. And what makes it all the more humorous is you're getting the EXACT same result here.
And what's funny is that I HAVE worked in customer service (and currently work in software). Judging from your arguments thus far, you have no clue how either works. Especially if you expect 100% up-time.
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TOMATO SAUCE
Ever have one of those lazy hand days, in which you accidentally swipe your laptop touchpad every couple of seconds?
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...For the low price of 9.99
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Also, you know, up until right this second, I thought your username was FetalChaos.
The more you know.
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This after trying two different routers, trying both ethernet then wifi, setting a static IP for EVERY device on my network, putting the PS3 in the DMZ of my router, opening up all applicable ports (although DMZ should make that a moot point) manually inputting all of my network settings into the PS3, and sacrificing a small goat.
No other device on my network has such issues :( Maybe whatever they did during the downtime will help?
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You have a 360 though, right, and you don't have any issues with it? I'm not the most technically proficient though- having a professional techie for a significant other has made me lazy. Is it possible there's something wrong with your PS3 itself? What you're experiencing is not normal. Calling tech support can suck though- the people manning the phones aren't usually equipped to help you the extra mile- it tends to be strictly "stick-to-the-script."
@FatalChaos: Yeah, I know, but I know he's not you. Perhaps his name was making me read yours differently all this time, though. :)
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OMG PLAYSTATINOON CLOUUUUUUUD!!! OMG!!11W
OMG INSTANT RAMEN DISPENSER!!! OMG1111!!!
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No need to freak out guys, it's probably just...well...maintenance...
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I can see this being profitable and overkill. But goshdarnit! It's Sony. They'll make it work... somehow... maybe?
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When did you stop beating your wife, anyhow?
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I don't know.
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what a complete clusterfuck this has been
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YOU DO NOT PAY FOR THE XBLM!
The service you pay for (Online Gameplay) is fully functional today.
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Oh...you mean it sucks that the store isn't working correctly? Oh, but that's not actually part of the Gold service. I could buy content without having to pay.
Man, you Sony fanboys are dumb.
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Adhominem, I love you buddy, but you just got told. lol.
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And today? It's not even down. You just can't buy anything. The online gameplay you're paying for is still readily available.
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This is annoying, sure, but the disappearance of a few Marketplace items will not impact the vast majority signing on today. The Ghostbusters code thing is probably aggravating those users though, particularly given yesterday's release downtime.
I recall similar minor issues creeping out from last fall's preemptive update outage. I know the team updating Live finished past 3 AM, so hopefully these issues will be gone once they wake up and resume work.
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Another person who fails to see the point. For the five-millionth time, no one cares about losing out on "28 cents." What they want is to be credited for the TIME that was stolen from them. There is absolutely ZERO reason why MS should not credit everyone a day for this. It wouldn't hurt them one bit.
And in response to TRT-X's post - yes, it was scheduled. Scheduled like...a week ago. I paid for my current XBL subscription almost a year ago. MS putting up a notice a few days ago that it's happening does not change the fact they are essentially stealing from me. I don't care if it's half a day or a week. I paid for it and I'm not getting it.
This shouldn't be such a hard concept for people to grasp, yet every time MS does this we get the same really tired, hollow arguments about why it's fine for them to do it.
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The fact that it's so widely accepted is more aggravating than the problem itself.
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@Omnimon: So I see after getting sufficientlly steamrolled by the Logic Train in your previous attempt to make this argument, you've decided to turn tail and run to this one in hopes of trying to get people to side with you again.
Too bad, you still fail. The paid portion of XBL (online gameplay) is fully operation today. The only malfunctioning service is the free XBL store, which is available to all members.
Admit your defeat before the Logic Train circles back around and hits you again.
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You. Don't. Pay. For. Marketplace.
Are you really this stupid? Or are you just intentionally being obtuse?
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I believe he is referring to the 24 hours Xbox Live was down, not the residual effects currently plaguing the Marketplace.
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"Wait! You need my car for a day!? Well then I demand you reimburse me for a day's worth of payment on the vehicle. And I will NOT pay for you to do it!"
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And the Logic Train is here, TRT-X, it's just one step away from yours. I do not advise that you or your buddies ever go into customer service or sales.
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The slippery slope argument is that if that is not the case, and the consumer expectation is not this high, services will deteriorate to the lowest acceptable levels in order to maximize the benefits to the service provider.
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@KaneRobot: For the five-millionth time, no one cares about losing out on "28 cents." What they want is to be credited for the TIME that was stolen from them.
The "time stolen from them!?" You've got to be kidding me. As noted by others, you've agreed to occasional maintenance in the TOS, and the odd outage here and there is hardly anything unusual from any paid subscription service nor reason enough to grab the pitchforks and torches.
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You claim that you have "lost a day" of Marketplace service. However that is NOT the case. Even after your subscription expires, you will still have access to the marketplace. You have lost nothing.
So I guess in that regard, you get your wish...Microsoft will in fact credit you one additional day of access to the XBLM. Actually, Microsoft will be crediting you an additional ETERNITY of access to the Marketplace. (Eternity of course being defined as today up until either your expiration or XBL's)
Like I said before, you're grasping at straws...and attempted to "retreat" from the original discussion (in which your argument was torn apart) to restart the exact same debate here. And what makes it all the more humorous is you're getting the EXACT same result here.
And what's funny is that I HAVE worked in customer service (and currently work in software). Judging from your arguments thus far, you have no clue how either works. Especially if you expect 100% up-time.