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DaveKap
09/01/09

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Are those pics of the plane from a cutscene in the game? I thought you couldn't fly planes in either the original or the DLC.
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Krakn3Dfx
09/01/09

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Also, if you pre-order this on Steam, you get Red Faction 1 and 2 for free.

I'm in.
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supo
09/01/09

@Krakn3Dfx: Yep, pre-ordered on steam a few weeks ago as well. 40$ for 3 games is not a bad deal whatsoever.

My Radeon 4890 should be more than enough for this game. I'll also be giving this a try on 64 bit Win7, so we'll see how that goes. Shouldn't be an issue.
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Crashproof
09/02/09

@Krakn3Dfx: having picked up Red Faction II on GoGamer a few weeks ago... this is not so great actually. It was a very decent game for its time, but is very old-school now, in a disappointing way.
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Strangelove
09/01/09

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I am so happy I waited for this on PC, and equally happy I have Vista and DX10.
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curly haired boy
09/01/09

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i'm buying this on steam ASAP.
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supo
09/01/09

@curly haired boy: You'll get the original 2 games for free if you do.
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GlenTen
09/01/09

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I think its fair to say that there's a rather large overlap between "PC gamers" and other gamers.

There are so many games out nowadays that I dont have time to play them all, Red Faction included. So im happy to "wait" until Sept 15th while I play Batman and Shadow Complex :D
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OneLetter
09/01/09

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Anyone else really hate the term "rig" when describing a high end PC?
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supo
09/01/09

@OneLetter: I don't think I've ever called it a rig. Doesn't bother me that other people say it, but it does sound a bit stupid.

I prefer to call mine my Personal Computer.
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-MasterDex-
09/01/09

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I was holding out for this. Can't wait, I'll probably pick this and Arkham Asylum up together. My system should eat these for breakfast! XD
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kearneybobs
09/01/09

@-MasterDex-: your computer eats pieces of bat for breakfasts?
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-MasterDex-
09/01/09

@kearneybobs: Yeah and Mars bars.....It's really beefy!

Not really though, I only have an 8800GT and stock Q6600 in it :(
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curly haired boy
09/01/09

@-MasterDex-: depending on your res, that should be more than enough. i know my 8800GT handles pretty much everything i throw at it. if not, time to overclock it just a LEETLE BIT MOAR. >:D

....that doesn't change the fact that i'm going to get DX11 hardware sometime next year. :P
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Driadon: Clone number 5481
09/01/09

@-MasterDex-: SLI that BIATCH! and you should be fine.
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stalin23
09/01/09

@Driadon, the little mutant that could: OR just OC the hell out of it. Much cheaper
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wox42
09/01/09

@-MasterDex-: Ah, Q6600s aren't that bad! Just overclock it a little bit. And 8800GTs were awesome cards. I wouldn't give up on it yet.
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kearneybobs
09/01/09

@-MasterDex-: I would recommend SLI-ing it. But you may end up running into a bottleneck with your Q6600. I'm running a Q6600 too with two 9800gt and i was bottlenecking from the CPU. So i overclocked the CPU to 3.0Ghz and haven't looked back. wouldn't cost you too much too. Could go further but it was my first overclock and might do it down the line when i'm bored with that OC and want more from my computer,.
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-MasterDex-
09/01/09

@wox42: I'm not planning on getting rid of it anytime soon but there is better cards out there right now. I still love this though, I have yet to find a game that it can't run beutifully...well, Arma2 but that ain't my PC.

With this new case, overclocking is the first order of business. Finally, I have some breathing room....then I'll consider SLI....when I need it.
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van_line
09/01/09

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So if I go out tomorrow and buy the top of the line computer rig to play games, what is it going to cost me and how soon would I have to upgrade something?
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-MasterDex-
09/01/09

@van_line: If you buy the top of the line? It'll last you about 5-7 years, 2-3 at high, 1-2 at medium and probably 1-2 at low. There'll still be that huge library of older but awesome games that you missed out on.

It'd probably cost you a small fortune but then again you don't need the top of the line to play games and have them looking better than any console.
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Cake_Eater
09/01/09

@van_line: I recently built a fairly high end system:

i7 920 (and corresponding motherboard), 3 GB RAM, 640 GB HDD, and 4890. It cost me around $1000, but I think I could have shaved off a solid $100-$200 dollars if I'd done full ATX instead of microATX and gotten a better PSU (I got a 750 watt PSU, but my system has never used more than 350 watts).

Sticking with a different quad core instead of the i7, like say the Phenom II X4, would save quite a fair bit of cash and leave you with a snappy system for quite a while.
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masshuum
09/01/09

@van_line: My computer which is about average, cost me $385 three months ago. It can play all current games on high at a res of 1920x1080 with a framerate of at least 30 (many console games only go that high). Average 60 (anything above that isn't worth mentioning) Everything was built from the ground up too.

My 23" Dell (which is pretty decent with LCDs) monitor cost me $150 shipped.

So to sum up, not too shabby and if you spend say, $550, you can get a quad core behemoth that will suit you quite nicely.

$1000 and up rigs are only for the "new" core i7s, which are good, but not worth the premiums they charge for the CPUs and Mobos IMHO.

Newegg, Tigerdirect (on occassion) and Amazon (when they have low stocks on hardware they tend to give a great discount on them to clear it out) are the places to shop.
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wox42
09/01/09

@Cake_Eater: Why get all those awesome components with a 640GB HDD? Terabyte drives are cheap!
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supo
09/01/09

@wox42: Depends on the price difference, but if you don't need the space now you could always upgrade later. Maybe wait for SSD's to become more affordable.
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supo
09/01/09

@Cake_Eater: You don't even really need a quad, either, for games anyway. The Phenom II X3 720 would probably be the best bet, especially if you can overclock. Hell, if you buy the right mobo and use the right bios you might even be able to unlock a 4th core!
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supo
09/01/09

@van_line: I upgrade my videocard every 6 months or so, but thats because I'm a graphics whore. I usually sell mine and get a decent price for it, and I don't really have to spend much more on a new card, maybe 50-100$ more. But most people are fine for around 2 years with the same card. CPU will last much longer, I haven't upgraded my CPU since I bought my system, which was about probably about 2 years ago. I'm going to soon though, but only because my gf needs a desktop, so I'm giving her some of my old parts and getting myself an upgrade. This cpu could easily last me another year or two

Ram, you wouldn't need to upgrade, maybe add more, but 4GB is very cheap, ~50$, and thats all you'd need. Run out of harddrive space, just add a new HDD, but if you delete stuff you don't need or burn to DVD the rest of it, you wouldn't need to get another HDD. HDD's last quite a long time.

That's pretty much all you'd upgrade, the main one being the videocard. The rest could easily last 4+ years. And keep in mind, this is only if you care about running absolutely every game at high with no major compromises.
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Cellsong
09/01/09

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God let them include a level editor and ability to mod the game with ease.

theres nothing I want more than to mod a set of rocket launchers on the light Mech.......
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raculot
09/01/09

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I already bought this on 360, but if it doesn't have any invasive copy protection I may just have to pick it up again for PC and replay it. I had a lot of fun on it on 360, and this looks great.
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K1NG EV1L
09/01/09

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Any game the PC gets is the best version.
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nerdwa
09/01/09

@K1NG EV1L: not necessarily. For the most part, its true but there are some exceptions. Take GTA IV for example. Although the PC version does have "nicer" graphics and a huge modding scene and all that. The truth is, it makes running Crysis look like a joke. Even with a GTX260 and 3gbs of ram on a core2duo, I get at most 25 fps on medium settings. I do have a first generation core2duo so its nothing to brag about but still. It makes me a bit disappointed.
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cmoyano
09/01/09

gta i believe for pc needed 4 cores to run decently, it ran smoothly on mine, no issues whatsoever...and these two, i have an 8800 gts 640 6 gb ram dominaotr and q6600 an di have been able to blow up every gingle game for pc at full grpahics...and these two are not the exception...
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cqdemal
09/01/09

@nerdwa: FYI, GTA IV on 360/PS3 is the equivalent of the PC version on mostly low settings.

I have a C2D E8400 overclocked to 3.825GHz, 4GB RAM and an HD 4870. Game runs sweet on medium-high at 1920x1080 with very few slowdowns.
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Dethgar
09/01/09

@nerdwa: Dual core processors aren't very good for modern gaming, a lot of PC games require more CPU usage. Seems your system is bottlenecking due to this, I have the same problem. Need to upgrade to a Quad.
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-MasterDex-
09/01/09

@Dethgar: It's not always just the amount of processors. Remember that there's still not a lot of games out there that take advantage of 4 cores. Clock speed and cache size are much better for performance right now. I have a Core2Quad and if I had gotten a Core2Duo with a higher clock and larger cache, I would have saved myself some money and running games just as good.
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SaheliCroesus
09/01/09

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I work at the studio that developed the PC version, and to the best of my knowledge this product will be available on both Impulse and Steam.
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doughboyx
09/01/09

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I'm torn now. I could get it on PS3 and have a good controller. Or I could play on PC with my keyboard and mouse, I guess. But wait, although my PC is pretty damn high-end, it doesn't have Vista/DX10. Ughh....
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R0CKFISH
09/01/09

@doughboyx: Keyboard+mouse ∞> than controllers.
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omgwtflolbbqbye
09/01/09

@R0CKFISH: Depends on the type of game.

If it's a sports or port of a console action game the keyboard and mouse just don't feel right (though its usually somewhat doable).

I needed the Xbox 360 controller for Wolverine, NBA 2k9, GTA4, Assassin's Creed and Mirror's Edge.

Opposite situation when FPS and strategy games are concerned obviously.
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Cellsong
09/01/09

@doughboyx: theres PLENTY of PC controllers that have the PS3 gamepad design. Barring that you can simply buy a PS3-to-PC controller adpater.

Thats the great thing about PCs, no one is forcing you into a set design.
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R0CKFISH
09/01/09

@omgwtflolbbqbye: I knew someone was going to say that and it's true. Though I totally enjoyed GTA4 and Mirror's Edge on PC with a KB+M over the controller while games like Wolverine I liked the controller a lot more.
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omgwtflolbbqbye
09/01/09

@Cellsong: I think the official Xbox 360 controller for Windows is probably the best option though.

I always preferred the PS controller since I never owned an Xbox before, but when it comes to PC ports/ multiplatform games, I've noticed they now integrate support specifically for that controller so that all the buttons are automatically mapped out once you plug it in.

Worse, and more annoyingly, some games I've played (Wolverine, NBA 2k9) won't even recognize 3rd party controllers or act very glitchy with them.
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omgwtflolbbqbye
09/01/09

@R0CKFISH: GTA4? Really?

I found it pretty near damn impossible to do anything with my keyboard and mouse (it's why I bought a Xbox controller in the first place).

Mirror's Edge I could see working though.
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Sir-Lucius does anything for Dethklok
09/01/09

@doughboyx: [www.ps3-hacks.com]

As long as you don't have a 64 bit OS (no driver yet), you're set. Add Joy2Key and you can configure the controller even more than you can on the PS3. I used to play controller friendly games all the time using the PS3 controller, but switched back to my wired 360 controller once I went to 64 bit Vista.
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Cellsong
09/02/09

@omgwtflolbbqbye: For the 360 I used the gamepad for the driving elements but I used my mouse emulator for the 3rd person combat. The two of them have their pros and cons which is why I use them both.
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Pult|Ost - Fortune Hunter Edition
09/01/09

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Haven't played this yet. I'll probably pick this version up if my PC's up to snuff. You even get 'chevies.
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thesircuddles
09/01/09

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PC fanboys: Go go go!
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R0CKFISH
09/01/09

@thesircuddles: Reporting for duty sir!
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oxweeblexo
09/01/09

@thesircuddles: everything we need to say has been said.
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kearneybobs
09/01/09

@thesircuddles: when our powers combine.....
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