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I guess you never read/saw I, Robot?
05/28/09
Also, as soon as you step onto the battlefield, every enemy will immediately stop whatever they were doing and shoot / throw grenades at YOU.
And racing games have the most bullshit AI in the world.
05/28/09
Of course, these magical abilities were only there when anybody OTHER than the player was using the gun...
05/28/09
1. When fighting a colossal near-invincible armoured mutant monster, do not empty 300 rounds of SMG ammo on the impenetrable shell.
2. If enemy is standing 500ft away, put the damn handgun away: that sniper rifle is in your inventory for a reason.
3. Stay the fuck away from me with that Red+Green herb, I got a splinter in my pinky, not a shotgun blast to the face.
4. When player is in Dying status and knocked down, do not hover above him with a healing spray waiting for him to get up. HE WON'T GET UP, WE'RE PLAYING ON PROFESSIONAL DIFFICULTY, YOU DUMB BITCH!
5. Attack mode means YOU attack THEM, not run in the middle of a swarm of enemies for THEM to attack YOU.
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10 Take a stride towards player
20 Attempt to kill
30 Goto 10
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Wouldn't that imply that the third law trumps the first law?
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Have the other articles been just as interesting?
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1. If the player is expected to use strategy and tactics, i.e. flanking, ambushes etc, the AI should as well, as opposed to blindly charging, or standing around.
2. AI should not be given sniperlike accuracy. If the player's SMG cannot hit the AI from a stationary crouch, the AI better not be able to hit the player.
3. AI should be programmed to act in squadlike fashions, if the context and situation allows for such.
4. AI should only attack the player and ignore the other NPCs if and ONLY if the player character is notoriously strong.
5. I would love to see ruthlessness implemented in AI, whether its human shields, hostages, or whatnot as nonscripted events.
05/28/09
hmmm as an AI programmer i find peoples opinions on this stuff fascinating!
The more feedback players give the better devs can make the experience. Really like your number 5 rule... and definitely agree with 1-4!
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I imagine it to be hard to implement, though.
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1. Because the AI can read your mind...
2. Despite the fact that you are scoring headshots like no tomorrow...
3. Because the AI knows exactly how you want your squad to act...
4. Regardless of the fact that you have the most kills on your squad, even if you're not 'notoriously strong'
5. And then we'll accuse the AI of cheap and unfair tactics and techniques that break the game...
05/28/09
I'm just mess'n with ya (mostly), don't take it too seriously :p
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This is basically what AI programmers aim for (I have experience with it, but it isn't my forte). The only problem is that computers don't understand language, so turning these simple rules into a language they can understand (logic and math) can be very complex.
For example, your first one. How is the AI supposed to know you are flanking them? When the player is positioned perpendicular to the NPC? What if the NPC gets turned around and only thinks the player is flanking? Do you use map/location-specific triggers? That removes the purpose of AI (It would be scripted).
I find it ironic that most games which tout or are reviewed to have particularly impressive AI are also the games which rely primarily on scripted actions.
And because they are scripted actions, which are custom created, they take a lot of time. Meaning that many times, the games with lesser production values are the ones with a more true AI, in the sense of less scripted actions.
/pointless rant
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1. An AI must value its own life; take cover against threatening enemies, and avoid life-threatening situations.(we don't need a Rambo type AI on any game)
1. A friendly AI should never get in the player's way. If you're in the player's way, get out of the way.(We don't need an AI dam or an anvil blocking,slowing us)
So they might not be as simple as Asimov laws but they are rather good for games and not just in FPS but in other genres as well.
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But joking aside is not just for an AI to take cover but for it to defend and preserve it self or else it would be like playing a DW game on easy you could kill 1000 people in a few minutes which would make any racing,fighting or RPG game too damn easy and boring and this is were Jonny Ebbert first law would come in to play.
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The ai saw that the humans were self destructive so in order to protect them had to break the laws.
05/28/09
The Will Smith movie and the Asimov book have very little in common beyond the title, and the shameless Rebok plugs.
05/28/09
The Zeroth law mandates that a robot put the interests of humanity as a whole above the interests of any individual human.
Read more Asimov, you'll like it.
05/28/09
Example: What if your house-bot Rosie decides that humanity is better off without you? You will likely not agree with her logic even if she is right! Should it kill you because it has calculated that you will be a greater risk to society alive than dead?
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05/29/09
The rules never were going to save us. The whole point of introducing the rules was to show that even with rules to keep robots in line, there'd still be situations that would cause logic faults, and then the rules would fail to make the robots behave "properly". Like, for instance, what would an Asimovian robot do if it stumbled across an impending gunslinger duel? Such things typically end in death for at least one participant, and if neither of them were recognizable as an agent of the law, the logical assumption would be that both participants would be intent on illegally killing the other person. So, which one should the robot save? Or, more specifically, which one should the robot interfere with such that the other person would be able to get a clean shot without any risk of being shot at in return?
05/28/09
(1) Don't think you're going to win that easily, pal.
(2) Not when I can make the computer QB suddenly have the pinpoint accuracy of an army sniper and the arm cannon of a genetically-engineered Super John Elway.
(3) Oh, SORRY your franchise RB, who in real life has fumbled 5 times since high school, just lost fumbles on 4 consecutive plays causing you to blow that 28-point lead in the Super Bowl! "Random" number generators are a bitch, ain't they????
05/28/09
Also, credit is due to Bill Simmons for the moniker of "Fuck you!" game.
02/05/09
* = is definitely
I think what they're doing with DoWII is a logical extension of the changes to typical RTS gameplay they made in CoH. Obviously now it's even more RPG+RTS=?, but I guess I'm willing to be optimistic and give it a shot. Maybe it will fail, but it sounds fun enough to me.
In CoH base building/management was already reduced to such a level that once you built a few things you didn't have to look at your base much again. CoH allowed you to queue up units from wherever(which isn't unique I know), didn't ask for a lot of extra micromanagement or resource gathering, which leaves the player free to control squads, vehicles, and special abilities. DoW II is, both in appearance and spirit, CoH 2.0.
I guess what I was getting at is: I like what I see and there are enough base building RTSes out there.
The only strategy involved here was positioning units around Gutrencha to fire from all sides and moving them out of the way whenever he aimed his hammer at them.
Hey, to a bunch of WoW players I ran into, that's asking quite a bit. You make it sound like moving out of the way is a trivial task..