I loved both games, it was simple but rewarded precision, lots of crazy gunplay and the Yashiro Knightow monster designs were fantastic. It was a solid beat-em-up with guns.
The anime, while interesting as a crime drama for the first 12 episodes, fell into shonen-ai pap, making the main female character from the game into an obnoxious little troll, they didn't use a single monster design from the game, the fight scenes were lackluster and it was fairly obvious that the writers didn't want to bother with the sci-fi elements that are tied into the license.
I only hope to see two things from this movie: Crazy gun fights and crazy monsters in said crazy gun fights. Think "Shoot-em-Up" meets the monsters of "Hellraiser".
Dammit, dammit dammit. This is going to fail along with every other video game movie EVER. And it really sucks, because Gungrave was one of the best "shoot everything in sight" games of our generation.
The anime was outstanding. Too bad it's getting the low-budget treatment. The story could have been incredible in the hands of a decent director and the full backing of a big studio.
@Furious George: The anime was absoultely outstanding...and only enforces my belief that all of my favorite characters always end up taking swimming lessons.
@sereal: Agreed. The zombie/sci-fi part was the weakest element of the anime -- which is somewhat ironic, given that it was supposed to be the entire premise of the game. Somehow, whether by design or by accident, the backstory about the gang ended up being a lot more compelling and a lot more powerful.
@NicolasCage: The Godfather Part Two handled a similar story structure. Then again, it had the context of the first movie on which to build.
Generally speaking, I agree with you to a large extent, though. It's very tough for a two-hour movie to tell a story as long and sprawling as the story told over the course of a television series. That said, I'd be all for giving Gungrave the live-action TV treatment -- told in serialized form, a la BSG or Heroes.
The game was beyond terrible.
And as we all know, if a good game (Tomb Raider) can be made into a terrible movie, then a terrible game has, realistically, no chance.
@Fallible.: The first game was beyond terrible. The second game, however, was clearly a step above the first game, putting it squarely in "incredibly not very good" territory.
@mintycrys is HOT for Bayonetta: The game was bland, but somehow fun and entertaining for a small fan community. It had its following, and it wasn't terrible as in forsaken with bugs and awful level design. It was just a game where all you did was move forward and keep shooting people. But the game itself had potencial, and the cutscenes were top-notch. I loved the second game, myself. Fixed what was wrong with the first, added a big layer of fun and style.
Conclusion. Worth your money? Nah. But it's fun if you're looking for a game featuring the closest thing to Trigun.
I just hope they take a cue from the anime and focus on the flashbacks - which, to my surprise, ended up taking 3/4 of the anime and were infinitely superior to the "Biyondo Za Gureivu" final batch of episodes, which were mostly about blowing up silly-looking mutants. (Helicopter-fatman? Gimme a break...)
Ok so which movie would suck worse amongst the cowboy bebop movie, the trigun movie and now the gungrave movie - I'm guessing this one thanks to the production studio. If you've seen the KoF stills and some of the footage you'd have a rough idea.
Then again this year also has the Tekken Movie which also looks bad and they are also having the Devil characters in it.
For those who know their anime, this game's concept was created by the dude who made Trigun. He also made an anime based on this game and it was friggin' awesome. The story of the game itself? A little meh, imagine a retelling of The Crow, but with guns.
But all game movies suck, so I dunno why I should still be even slightly hopeful.
@Ashurahori: Because there's a chance we'll get to see a kick ass movie with an undead mafia sweeper who carriers around two massive pistols and a coffin that's full of assorted guns and weaponry while fighting off legions of weird mafia monsters and bosses?
Yeah... Hollywood will probably mess it up. But at the very least, I still have both of the Gungrave games and the anime series, so if the movie bites, I can drown my sorrow in a hail of awesomeness.
@Salen: Drowning one's sorrow in a hail of awesomeness is tantamount to the crappy Hollywood version never having existed at all, really. Glory be to Gungrave.
@Salen: Hollywood messed up the most simplistic movie concept ever. Max Payne. It wouldn't be hard at all to make a movie about a self-narrating hard-boiled cop in a noir setting, and make every other scene a slo-mo shootout. Instead, they just changed everything and made a crappy movie. Hollywood can mess up stuff which is hard to mess up. Watch them mess up this.
@Ashurahori: Hell yes, the Anime is one of my favourites. I only found out about the games afterwards and was really impressed with what they came up with for the Anime. I can't really think of any games that have been turned into Anime series of that quality (DMC was only okay and I still haven't seen Blue Dragon).
Speaking of which... *sniff* It's a shame they never made a sequel to Highlander. Oh well. I guess Hollywood just couldn't bring themselves to making a sequel to such an epic movie.
@Salen: That's probably part of why there was never a Ghostbusters III. Of course, I can't imagine any scenario where a Highlander movie sequel or video game would be even partially-acceptable.
@Ashurahori: LOVED Trigun. The character designs that creator comes up with are just amazing. I have no idea how you could translate them to live action, but I think I'd like a live-action Trigun more... at least Madhouse is still making that animated movie out of it last I heard.
@Char Aznable says, Hail to the King of Pop: Actually, the new Ghostbusters game is probably the closest we'll get to a GB3, but that's okay, because I enjoyed the story, the setting, the busting of ghosts like it was 1991, and just getting to see the setting once more.
And yes. There was NEVER a Highlander film sequel. Ever. And no video game either, which is sort of odd, since I could totally see a SF-esque/Samurai Shodown game being made out of it. Set it in the past, pick from a bunch of Immortal sword swinging badasses, and print money from the game like your name is Nintendo.
@Salen: Unfortunately, Highlander's time has passed. GB3, also known as Ghostbusters the Game, is awesome and absolutely lives up to the original movies. I don't think Highlander could ever achieve that, as much as it pains me to say. The movie is legend. ... Almost as legend as Zardoz.
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Thats all I need to know. Heres to cheesy actors
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The anime, while interesting as a crime drama for the first 12 episodes, fell into shonen-ai pap, making the main female character from the game into an obnoxious little troll, they didn't use a single monster design from the game, the fight scenes were lackluster and it was fairly obvious that the writers didn't want to bother with the sci-fi elements that are tied into the license.
I only hope to see two things from this movie: Crazy gun fights and crazy monsters in said crazy gun fights. Think "Shoot-em-Up" meets the monsters of "Hellraiser".
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http://www.hardcoregaming101.net/gungrave/gungrave.htm
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Oh, and for the record, Gungrave Overdose was superb...one of my all time favs.
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I just really liked the whole story of the gang growing up and things falling apart.
Either way it's a great anime worth checking out, just don't judge it by the first couple of episodes.
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I doubt a movie could pull off the same sort of thing though.
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Generally speaking, I agree with you to a large extent, though. It's very tough for a two-hour movie to tell a story as long and sprawling as the story told over the course of a television series. That said, I'd be all for giving Gungrave the live-action TV treatment -- told in serialized form, a la BSG or Heroes.
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And as we all know, if a good game (Tomb Raider) can be made into a terrible movie, then a terrible game has, realistically, no chance.
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Conclusion. Worth your money? Nah. But it's fun if you're looking for a game featuring the closest thing to Trigun.
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Then again this year also has the Tekken Movie which also looks bad and they are also having the Devil characters in it.
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But all game movies suck, so I dunno why I should still be even slightly hopeful.
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What is it with movie studios and live action for things that should stay within the realm of animation anyway.
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Yeah... Hollywood will probably mess it up. But at the very least, I still have both of the Gungrave games and the anime series, so if the movie bites, I can drown my sorrow in a hail of awesomeness.
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Speaking of which... *sniff* It's a shame they never made a sequel to Highlander. Oh well. I guess Hollywood just couldn't bring themselves to making a sequel to such an epic movie.
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And yes. There was NEVER a Highlander film sequel. Ever. And no video game either, which is sort of odd, since I could totally see a SF-esque/Samurai Shodown game being made out of it. Set it in the past, pick from a bunch of Immortal sword swinging badasses, and print money from the game like your name is Nintendo.
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I am glad it's going to be a live action version of the Anime or Manga. It can't be for the game. the game is way too short and unknown.
Still, I loved the first game, loved the Anime, and the Manga. Hopefully they will do a semi-decent job, like the Death note live action films.
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...my bet is it'll suck. And nobody will even recognize it.
...but they'll keep the cowboy hat. =D