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Sony tracks there sales numbers through to consumer sales where Microsoft and Nintendo track through to retail supply.
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You probably know this already but I think the projections go into March of 2010 while the year-end total are only for calendar '09.
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Sure both systems have games for the core gamer and have a bunch of gems like Crisis Core, God of War, GTA, Professor Layton, Chrono Trigger, Dragon Quest, etc..., but for each one of those you're hit with 5 titles that are complete garbage.
Over the last year I've spent far more time on my PSP and DS then I have on the Wii, PS3 or 360. I wish more companies would think of the handhelds first and not as an after thought.
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Most people probably have enough for a $60 game every 2 months.
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On another note, I'm curious what you did to earn a star. Sure can't tell from this post...
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I'm not spending 400 bucks, plus another couple of hundred for some games, just to play a couple of games.
The cost of the hardware alone equals 6 full retail games on the system I already have (360), plus several Arcade games. OR, I can spend that cash, buy the hardware . . . and I still don't have any games to play.
I would certainly like to play Uncharted 1 and 2. I'd like to try Killzone. LBP looks like fun to play. Warhawk looks like fun.
But they don't look like 600 dollars of fun.
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Whether you like their reliance on sequels or not, they are the second largest publisher and a *very* good source for info like this. They also have a responsibility to their investors to make meaningful predictions, so they spend a lot of time and money generating these lists in an attempt to make them as accurate as possible.
Not sure why you could discount this list.
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If they are really talking about the install base in our living rooms, I'd like to see which kind of dice Activision used to roll that numbers (just out of curiosity).
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[www.gamasutra.com]
Either way they do it, the math will still work out to 11 million copies of MW2 sold by new years.
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Where do you get such stupid information?
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@robbo_the_hood
@lazybum131
Acutally it was on gamasutra where I stumbled upon the information that Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo report differently.
I know that NPD is not accounting units in transit, but then again, those numbers are only for the US.
It's really just a curiosity thing, because I don't necessarily tend to trust neither the companies, nor the media (no offense Kotaku ;) ) when it comes to presenting a story. But as I was upon reading some more articles about indie developers during the last days where some even came up with business plans based on arbitrary XBLA/PSN numbers, it would be a nice addition to see how close those are to the real playground out there.
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Unfortunately, Luke neither replied to me nor corrected the story with his mistake.
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Luke,
As a long time reader (and poster as Rotmm) on Kotaku, I feel it’s important to correct you in the story you recently posted on the site. I don’t overly care, except I seem to recall the same assertion being posted on the site previously and, while plainly incorrect, many may not realise it and it can go some way to fanning the flames of the fanboy element.
You stated, "In 2006, Sony decided to start tracking how many consoles and games they sold all the way through to customers, not just to retailers (which is how most other companies record "sales"). It's an admirable practice, and one which gives us a very accurate picture of how the PS3 (and its games) are faring, since these figures have been available for the entirety of the machine's lifespan."
The first inaccuracy is that it was in 2007 that Sony chose to change the way they reported their figures and would go ahead from Q1 2007, which equates to the 1st April. Prior to that date, Playstation 3 sales listed on their financial reports (here [www.scei.co.jp]) were shipped from manufacturing, ie: into warehouses and not into the retail chain as other manufacturers did and which is also the defacto standard.
From Q1 2007, Sony amended their reporting to be in line with other manufacturers and all sales figures since then are those shipped to retail. Not, as you assert, those actually sold to customers.
I can understand where you got confused, as the line "Beginning with Q1 2007, the method of reporting hardware and software unit sales has been changed from production shipments to recorded sales." from [www.sony.net] could make it sound as though Sony are somehow magically getting accurate sales information from Do Predele Gametek, Ostrava, Czech Republic, but they aren’t. Those recorded sales are defined by those that are recorded from distribution to retail.
As an aside, those sales recorded for the first 2 quarters were under the old "shipped from production" method and therefore are somewhat circumspect. Therefore, the 23.8m shipped figure cannot honestly be stated with any degree of confidence in its accuracy.
To end, it would be nice if you would amend the story to remove/change the offending paragraph, though I understand that probably won’t happen. I would definitely hope, though, that I don’t read similar misinformation on Kotaku again ;)
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A PS3 price cut is still speculation though.
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At least convert to pastafarianism before choosing to eat religious figures!
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America = No
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That's because Japan doesn't care for the shit sandwich Activision shoves in everyone's mouth.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Nintendo do like 20M+ that first half year?
They are still doing well, but the fact that they haven't doubled sales of the other two anymore denotes an interesting trend at least.
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That said, I retract any statements about interesting sales trends :)
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edit: also, these are only estimates for north america and europe. so these numbers are the way acti-blizz think will turn out for consoles.
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@Sedako: They're Huge in Japan.
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[www.themediamall.com]
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