I think it looks fairly different from LBP. It's more user friendly, drag and drop stuff. But better than LBP in that you can create 2D/3D platformer, shooter, etc.
The only reason ANYONE is even considering comparing this to LBP is that LBP was mentioned in the heading and text. This is nothing like LBP other than content sharing. Unless, LBP and Far Cry 2 are alike because you can create levels there ...
Even Owen was clear that it was just about content sharing. Geez, you people need to learn to digest information better.
LBP and Buko are 2 totally different beasts , and plus we don't really know the potential of Buko just yet. we are basing opinions on a short video. this is like the whole R2 vs Gears 2 thing all over again. Live and let die folks.
The stupidity of the commenters on this article astounds me. This is a VISUAL PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE for kids that is intended to get them to have an interest in Computer Science. It is more educational than a game, it is not being marketed as a game, it will not be sold on retail store shelves. Hell, I don't even think it is a 360 game, it is a Windows Application that can take use of the controller (like every game that runs on Windows).
Everyone on here, please understand that this IS NOT, IN ANY WAY, a rip off of LittleBigPlanet. It is an EDUCATIONAL TOOL to teach kids logic and programming skills.
Stop being idiots people, we're smarter than this. One commenter made a great point, if we're going to call this a rip-off of LBP, then we might as well start calling C++, Jave, Basic, Game Maker, Pascal, Unreal Editor, UnrealScript, etc. all LBP rip-offs. They all let you make games, so why not, right?
LBP did not do anything new. It was the first game to do this kind of thing on a console, but hundreds of programs exist on the PC that let you do the same thing with infinitely better results.
When I was a kid, I would have loved something like Boku. It looks like it allows kids an easy way to MAKE THEIR OWN GAME and not just extend a pre-existing one. Boku can actually teach kids skills that could be useful later on in life. You can't get a job with LittleBigPlanet skills, but you can if you have good Logic and Programming skills.
The fanboys, however, will still jump on this and call it a rip-off. Owen, you shouldn't have even brought up the connection, because even you know that there isn't one.
@Doomstink: I understand your frustration, I feel it too, but I think that LBP and a lot of editors have applicable skills in game development even if not directly related to programing. There's many hats to be filed in a typical game development projects. A (literal) hand full of people may actually find work because of something they did in LBP to highlight talents they already had... LBP won't hone anything though... it's not a teaching tool; it's just not that refined. Either way, many people are enjoying it and rightfully so but if some of these people troll you, don't let give them the reaction they want. They just want to remove attention from the real valid points you are making.
I think this post was a much better response then the one you made on the first discussion. Very well done.
GTFO Microsoft! Can't you let the PS3 have SOMETHING?
I know it isn't an exacty copy, but still, it's almost like that Baja cover controversy a couple days ago. It isn't the exact same, but it's a little too similar to be coincidence. (Who was the commenter that said that?)
It just makes me mad how they just can't get off sony's back.
I'm an early level programmer, and there is a wholly overwhelming feeling of "Fiero" I think it was, the feeling of overcoming adversity, whenever I compile a program that actually does what I want it to. Unfortunately, programming is kind of unapproachable because of how unforgiving it is, in that you need to know all of the syntax and stuff. But this looks incredibly easy, and might actually encourage people to get into programming. Gah, I love it, I wish I could have gotten this as a kid, might have actually picked up a Visual C++ book before, ya know, I was 16.
@ChunkOFunk: My first forie into programming was when I was 13 and I discovered QBasic in DOS... remember Gorilla or Snake? I just loved graphics and games before them but once I tasted the feeling of trying something and actually having it run... there was no going back for me... I fell in love with programming and I still am. I think I have a deeper understanding then I would have if I'd discovered it later in life... I think it's one of those things that you actually understand more if your brain can grasp it as it's developing. If kids can be exposed to the concept at an earlier age, I honestly believe they can find the joy we did with an even deeper impact made on their being. It's a wonderful feeling to share and I really hope a tool like this is a good start. I think it works on a level even adults can appreciate... I know I do and I haven't even gotten my hands on it.
No-one would even be drawing comparisons between this and LBP if Owen hadn't made them in the post.
This is not LBP, and it's not an attempt to compete with it. This is much more similar to Microsoft's recent push with XNA and trying to make game programming accessible to the masses.
@fraudbrand: Cram a cork in it, not everybody who sees this as a LBP ripoff is a Sony fanboy, and not everybody defending it is a 360 fanboy. So do kindly shut the hell up.
@Frequen-Z: The belief is that anyone who says something that pisses someone off, you generally call them a fanboy at the sacrifice at being called one yourself. This rule is weak at discriminating but is extremely effective at dragging real fanboys from the wood work. The one who attacked you was an angry fanboy. The fact that he saw you as a fanboy was the rules weakness. So there you have it.
@Mattster1: Again, another title reader. This was first shown to the public back in 2007 and if you know anything about Microsoft Research, they've probably been working on it for years before that. Nobody was waiting for Sony or anyone else. Sony went ahead and did it's own thing and so are the people behind this.
@Hunter217: Reasons are different from excuses. Just tell me what you see as the excuse here? This is the internet, there's all the proof you need out there. I've posted some sources in other posts in this story but if your waiting for me to convince you then keep waiting. I'm perfectly fine with you thinking this is an LBP ripoff but I'm not entirely sure what light or perspective you bring to the discussion in doing so. You seem to want to keep operating on the idea that if you can make a correlation between anything MS has made with something that already exists then it's a ripoff. That's sad.
@Hunter217: Even if it was a rip off of LittleBigPlanet, why the fuck does it matter? Does it make them unoriginal? Does it make them mean? Does it hurt your feelings? Get over yourself. Everyone rips off everyone else. Nothing new here. If you think LBP was the first of its kind you are dead wrong. It's simply ripping off things from here and there as well.
@Kingdom Oblivion: It's all the wrong way to approach things. It's a very aggressive and unnecessarily competitive way to look at what games are. We do not say all first-person, third =-person, every-single-JRPG-in-the-last-1o-years, (etc...) are ripping each other off so why do we say this every time something that might fall under the radar of the console alliance wars is doing it.
Similarities use to be touchstones that gamers would use to navigate the see of interest in ever growing universe of games but now it seems that these mental paths that we and many before use have been laying down for over three decades now have been hijacked by fanboys who want to kill anything that attempts to follow it and put down its own piece at the end.
This kind of insular view is not healthy and isn't needed.
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Personally, as a kid I don't think I would've been interested in this, but maybe others will.
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Even Owen was clear that it was just about content sharing. Geez, you people need to learn to digest information better.
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They've been working on this prior to this second video. Don't forget, this is from Microsoft Research and not the Xbox Team.
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Everyone on here, please understand that this IS NOT, IN ANY WAY, a rip off of LittleBigPlanet. It is an EDUCATIONAL TOOL to teach kids logic and programming skills.
Stop being idiots people, we're smarter than this. One commenter made a great point, if we're going to call this a rip-off of LBP, then we might as well start calling C++, Jave, Basic, Game Maker, Pascal, Unreal Editor, UnrealScript, etc. all LBP rip-offs. They all let you make games, so why not, right?
LBP did not do anything new. It was the first game to do this kind of thing on a console, but hundreds of programs exist on the PC that let you do the same thing with infinitely better results.
When I was a kid, I would have loved something like Boku. It looks like it allows kids an easy way to MAKE THEIR OWN GAME and not just extend a pre-existing one. Boku can actually teach kids skills that could be useful later on in life. You can't get a job with LittleBigPlanet skills, but you can if you have good Logic and Programming skills.
The fanboys, however, will still jump on this and call it a rip-off. Owen, you shouldn't have even brought up the connection, because even you know that there isn't one.
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I think this post was a much better response then the one you made on the first discussion. Very well done.
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Can't you let the PS3 have SOMETHING?
I know it isn't an exacty copy, but still, it's almost like that Baja cover controversy a couple days ago. It isn't the exact same, but it's a little too similar to be coincidence. (Who was the commenter that said that?)
It just makes me mad how they just can't get off sony's back.
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I'm an early level programmer, and there is a wholly overwhelming feeling of "Fiero" I think it was, the feeling of overcoming adversity, whenever I compile a program that actually does what I want it to. Unfortunately, programming is kind of unapproachable because of how unforgiving it is, in that you need to know all of the syntax and stuff. But this looks incredibly easy, and might actually encourage people to get into programming. Gah, I love it, I wish I could have gotten this as a kid, might have actually picked up a Visual C++ book before, ya know, I was 16.
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This is not LBP, and it's not an attempt to compete with it. This is much more similar to Microsoft's recent push with XNA and trying to make game programming accessible to the masses.
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Similarities use to be touchstones that gamers would use to navigate the see of interest in ever growing universe of games but now it seems that these mental paths that we and many before use have been laying down for over three decades now have been hijacked by fanboys who want to kill anything that attempts to follow it and put down its own piece at the end.
This kind of insular view is not healthy and isn't needed.