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What really boggles the mind is that they didn't even try this before release. I mean who releases a disk and never even attempts to see if a single one of the disks functions?
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No PS3 FW update will resolve this unless it installs Win7 :P
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Of course, the above would only work if the disc is not authored as a blu-ray video disc, because if that's the case, the filesystem can't be browsed, and I guess someone at Bioware deserves to be called a genius.
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I did mention that its in a PC type format?
The file structure just isn't in one the PS3 can read. It's not a simple case of go to "display All" to see the music on the disc.
If it worked like that then you could do "Display All" and get the sound track off any game, or the video files etc.
But you can't because the files aren't stored in a simple universal structured format.
Just as the PS3 game files are stored in a way that means you can't read them on a PC, and PC game disc are stored in a way that means you can't read them in a PC. Its like that.
edit: its also getting late so that may of rambled on. But I can maybe clean it up in the morning.
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...I miss Mass Effect....
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While its a rhetorical question, I'm just wondering if theres people who actually buy collectors/limited editions just so they can keep them in mint condition and then sell them years later.
By looking in the way a "collector" would see it, I can understand why the guy on the forum was pissed that it didn't work-- because what value is something that can't work on the system?
Or maybe he bought the collectors edition for kicks and wanted the soundtrack... which still warrants him a reason to be pissed.
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A) It comes with something I really want.
B) It doesn't cost much more than the standard edition.
C) I really love the series/developer/etc.
Collector's Editions usually have the bonus of retaining their values, even after they've been opened. So, if you were disappointed with the game, you could sell it on eBay for about the same price you bought it for, maybe even more depending on the game.
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Also if its a game you're really into then you may just want it to show how big a fan you are.
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Hmmm, well, I think it's crap that this happened to the PS3 owners that brought the DAO ultrapack and lack a soundtrack now....hopefully EA can get you guys something.
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What a weird decision, too. The marketing of BioWare products has had a noticeable decline since going with EA. Still great products, just odd choices on promoting those great products.
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The PS3 does play MP3's, just not off of a Blu-ray disc.
Consider this purchase an investment into the PS3's future (you just know they will patch this functionality in someday).
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It would seem a pretty safe assumption to believe they would be playable. (Though there is probably going to be a McCarthy effect of people claiming they knew it wouldn't be possible ahead of time).
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Yeah it is kind of weird that the PS3 can't play MP3's off of a Blu-ray. But it is probably safe to assume they will patch in the future. I don't see why they wouldn't.
And yeah, you're right. If I had the soundtrack (or any Blu with MP3's on it), I'd assume I'd be able to play it off of a media centric device like the PS3.
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What. The. ****.
Is Sony stupid or something?
I'd like to hear the reasoning behind that decision. (Considering the PS3's is Sony's biggest hope for Blu-Ray market penetration).
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Bioware put the MP3s on a Blu-Ray.
It's not that you can't read the mp3s from the Blu-Ray, most computers (where you store your MP3s) don't have a Blu-Ray drive from where to load said disc.
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Let's look at what @deanbmmv wrote shall we? Read it? Let's contine...
The PS3 is perfectly capable of reading mp3s and the PS3 is capable of reading blu-ray discs. Were the mp3s burned to a blu-ray as a data disc for example, there would not be a problem. The problem is that Bioware produced the disc in such a way that it could only be read on a PC with a blu-ray drive, when this didn't need to be the case. Before you say they probably assumed it would work on the PS3, remember the old adage: Assumption is the mother of all fuckups.
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Let's try again.
I completely fa-reaking understand that they assumed it would work and it didnt.
but the comment at the start of this thread is not about that, it is about how Sony somehow managed to create a console that can read X format and Y disc, but not X format when on a Y disc.
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If you read it and didn't understand it, I'm sorry and will try to explain a bit simpler:
As you put it Sony created a console that can read X format and Y disc, but not X format when on a Y disc.
This is not the case, if you have access to a blu-ray burner, burn an mp3 to a blu-ray and put it in your PS3. Hey presto! You have an (extremely over-the-top) data disc of music.
The situation is, in fact, Sony created a console that can read X format and Y disc but not Z disc format.
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Not sony's fault that not everyone has a blu-ray drive on their PC.
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This disc is designed to be unpacked on a PC. Just like the 360 version doesn't unpack on the 360, it needs to be used on PC.
You know how 'special content' on DVD films needs a PC. Its like that, exactly like that.
If EA make a special edition disc that needs PC to run and decide to make it on a Blu-Ray disc that's EA's fault. Sony have nothing to do with it. If a PS3 game on Blu-Ray refuses to run, then that's potentially Sony's fault.
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The disc works perfectly fine, nothing is wrong with it. It works in its intended manner.
The only issue is, not everyone has a blu-ray drive in there PC.
Which is not Sonys fault that blu-rays aren't as common is it?
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But as with all new tech (remember DVD's players weren't always $30) it wasn't. Which also meant that Sony had to eat a shit ton of the cost of a PS3 to make it 'affordable'.
"they get the idea to put bonus content on a Blu Ray disk" They being EA yes? Sony didn't have any involvement with this, its a completely third party game.
And the disc is not designed to work with the PS3.
How hard is this to grasp. The disc was made from the outset to need a PC to access the files stored on it. Wether the disc was a Blu-Ray or DVD it would NEVER of worked in the PS3 to take these MP3 files. Because, and heres the tricky part you may be struggling on, the PS3 isn't a PC.
There's no dancing around in circles on this except your sheer incomprehension.
This disc is designed to work in a PC. The problem is the disc format they used was a Blu-Ray disc, which isn't as common as DVD on PCs. This means most people can't use the disc.
This has nothing to do with Sony, the disc works as intended. You have a PC with a Blu-Ray dirve and pop; this disc in you will have no issues getting that content. The game works fine, if it didn't then potentially in that case it could of been a Sony issue.
But it's nothing to do with the PS3 game, but the Blu-Ray disc that came with it.
Which I'll repeat:
Is Designed For PC Use.
I didn't want to be a cunt like this but I've had to explain how this works several times now, but you seem to have the composition of a brick wall.
You shall not be getting another reply if you can't understand the difference between a PC and Ps3 anymore.
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Then again why should people jump through hoops for something that should have worked in the first place.
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This is not an issue with the PS3 being unable to read MP3's off a Blu-Ray disc. Any 'dumb' blu-ray player will suffer the same problem. The reason you need the PC to read the files is because it will be stored in a data folder most likely in UDF format. Which is something the PS3 or a regular ole Blu-Ray player are not complex enough to access.
That is why you require a PC to access this content.
This is very much the same as CDs with extra content, or DVD films with extra content if you put the disc in a PC.
e.g I have a Star Wars disc with some wallpapers on it. these are jpeg files. The PS3 can read jpegs, it can read DVD's, if I burn some pictures onto a DVD-R it will read them fine. If I use Roxi/Nero and make an executable to hold the pictures in and burn these as a UDF format, then the PS3 will shit its pants. It's just not a system the PS3 understands.
Even if the soundtrack was on a DVD the PS3 would suffer the same issue, because it would be stored on the disc in the same way.
This is just a bad choice on EA's part. Had they been put on the more accessible format, while not working directly off the PS3, it would not of caused the same issue.
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how do I access the soundtrack and the other stuff?
I only bought it for the extra items, Shale, and Wardens Keep, didn't even realize it came with the st and a dvd.
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I found the Wallpaper and the OST in:
C:\Program Files\Steam\steamapps\common\dragon age origins\Bonus
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I agree that if one should purchase this and be concerned since this had to pass through many checks before going on sale.