Moving on to 3D in a recession when HDTV penetration is just now getting to 50% seems a little like jumping the gun. I mean, people are just starting to go see these films at the theater. All these people finally getting an HD tv are going to spring again for a top-end TV to watch 3D? I think not.
@lionkitten: That is an excellent point, but right now its about planting the seed and establishing the relationships.... They want people to think Sony first when thinking 3d, so in 5 years when prices are down its the brand recognition and association with the exclusive content (i.e. ESPN 360, iMAX, Discovery, etc.) that will carry the sales. You and I may be more tech savvy and choose a different TV, but mainstream society is still swayed by marketing HEAVILY.
@Patronaso: Right. But, I mean, I'm an early adopter with a Sony HD TV who's in the market to upgrade and replace, and I still don't need/want it. And I buy a lot of crap I don't need.
I'm flying to Vegas with newly printed and fresh (and fake) business cards and tech company credentials just to go to CES and bathe in the technogadget nerdery of it all. And I still am not moved. I question the wisdom.
Maybe when I experience it tomorrow I'll be swayed.
@lionkitten: 3DTV is built upon HDTV technologies, many people will already have a HDTV capable of 3D.
And would it be wise to allow for full HDTV saturation, then move on, or bump up the tech while there's still millions out to buy a set.
Anyway if they don't start pushing it now, its not magically going to break out into the market at 20% in a couple years time. They kinda need to release it now :P
@lionkitten: HDTVs are one of the hottest consumer gifts during the holidays. Yeah people will always look for the latest and greatest. Especially with so many people being wowed by Avatar.
@lionkitten: It doesn't matter the state of the economy, there are always people willing to buy these things. The sooner it enters the market, the quicker the costs can be cut so the price can be reduced.
Besides, if 50% still haven't upgraded, when they do why not let it be to the 3DTV rather than have them stuck with a standard HDTV for years.
It also works as a pull, sure some people can't see the difference between HD and SD but they can between SD and 3D
@Mike Newlad: Seems I'm in the minority here. But it just seems so niche.
Just the glasses themselves are so impractical and annoying for in-home use, it seems. If I have my 10 friends over for the Superbowl or whatever, how much are 10 sets of glasses, for example. So many people are on computers and the like while watching TV. What about the switching back and forth?
Do you need to take the glasses on and off as you channel surf? If I'm watching Shark Week 3D, what about the commercials?
I must just lack the will or the imagination to wrap my head around this, but it seems more effort than its worth at this point.
*shrug*
I'll know more after I hit CES tomorrow. Maybe I'll change my mind.
@lionkitten: We are having a world cup kick off party at my house and if we had a 3DTV, the people coming would (cos that's just how my lot are) bring their own glasses and it would be viewed as a big experience that we would all be happy about.
Don't get me wrong, I see the big flaws but at some point in time we are going to make the leap in tech, the sooner we get the early stages out the way the better IMO.
How fun was Goldeneye on your N64? It was practical too, you could have 1 N64, 1 copy of Goldeneye and 4 pads. Most games don't offer split screen so to play each other you have to buy a console each and the game each. It's not so practical (financially) but the experience is still pretty damn sweet.
This is a pretty lackluster conference. Sir Howard Stringer himself seemed unimpressed. I cannot think of one item I would purchase out of the ones presented here.
However, I do like how confident they are about 3D entertainment. I cannot wait to see what they bring to the table with it.
@battlescarSS: They announced SD support in their video cameras! The last lingering thread of "proprietary crap that sony keeps shoving down our throats" that existed in reality is gone once those come out. Now it's only fantasy in the minds of people who can't accept that there is change even in the things they DON'T like.
@bobtheduck in Korea: Don't get me wrong, SD support in Sony cameras is a step in the right direction, but most of the stuff they showed wasn't exactly groundbreaking. Maybe they're just running out of ideas?
CES used to be about bringing out new hardware and prototypes, but now its become a showcase for already existing products with minor upgrades and blatant ripoffs.
Last Year's CES. See the HDTV sliver? See the Color sliver? I know it's hard to tell because TV and DVD beat them by such a big margin, but HDTV beat out Color for first 3 years on the market. Now if We could only get a 10 year comparison.
@Foxstar is in love with Kotaku's two Brians.: If you're coming to a CES press conference and expecting already established technology you're doing it very wrong. Especially from companies like Sony, Samsung and Toshiba, which are known to spearhead new stuff all the time.
Also, this year being focused on 3D was a surprise to no one who knew about Avatar. As someone who bought a HDTV as soon as I could afford it, I'm more than excited about 3D right now, especially for games.
@shaunmcilroy: Seriously, what is that all about. It takes me four times as long to download a demo on the PS 3. Don't get me started on the 100mb 'updates'.
@jasongw: You guys need to change some settings then because I get a solid 2Mb/s and thats even on a wireless connection. I download things very quickly on PSN no problem.
@shaunmcilroy: I downloaded the God of War III demo, which clocks in at 2.4 gigabytes, approximately, in 45 minutes, on a 16 mb ADSL connection. And your problem is PSN's fault somehow?
@playstationpwns: Nothing to do with settings. EVERY other device on my connection works VERY fast. I stream HD video from netflix and hulu to 360 or even PS3 with *ZERO* problems. PSN is the ONLY slow service I connect to from a console.
@LaneWinree: They all do it. I swear there was some business motivational speaker from 1992 that spread that damn word around to all these guys. They just can't shake it.
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I'm flying to Vegas with newly printed and fresh (and fake) business cards and tech company credentials just to go to CES and bathe in the technogadget nerdery of it all. And I still am not moved. I question the wisdom.
Maybe when I experience it tomorrow I'll be swayed.
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And would it be wise to allow for full HDTV saturation, then move on, or bump up the tech while there's still millions out to buy a set.
Anyway if they don't start pushing it now, its not magically going to break out into the market at 20% in a couple years time. They kinda need to release it now :P
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Besides, if 50% still haven't upgraded, when they do why not let it be to the 3DTV rather than have them stuck with a standard HDTV for years.
It also works as a pull, sure some people can't see the difference between HD and SD but they can between SD and 3D
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Just the glasses themselves are so impractical and annoying for in-home use, it seems. If I have my 10 friends over for the Superbowl or whatever, how much are 10 sets of glasses, for example. So many people are on computers and the like while watching TV. What about the switching back and forth?
Do you need to take the glasses on and off as you channel surf? If I'm watching Shark Week 3D, what about the commercials?
I must just lack the will or the imagination to wrap my head around this, but it seems more effort than its worth at this point.
*shrug*
I'll know more after I hit CES tomorrow. Maybe I'll change my mind.
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Don't get me wrong, I see the big flaws but at some point in time we are going to make the leap in tech, the sooner we get the early stages out the way the better IMO.
How fun was Goldeneye on your N64? It was practical too, you could have 1 N64, 1 copy of Goldeneye and 4 pads. Most games don't offer split screen so to play each other you have to buy a console each and the game each. It's not so practical (financially) but the experience is still pretty damn sweet.
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However, I do like how confident they are about 3D entertainment. I cannot wait to see what they bring to the table with it.
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CES used to be about bringing out new hardware and prototypes, but now its become a showcase for already existing products with minor upgrades and blatant ripoffs.
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EDIT: [www.vgchartz.com]
Last Year's CES. See the HDTV sliver? See the Color sliver? I know it's hard to tell because TV and DVD beat them by such a big margin, but HDTV beat out Color for first 3 years on the market. Now if We could only get a 10 year comparison.
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Also, this year being focused on 3D was a surprise to no one who knew about Avatar. As someone who bought a HDTV as soon as I could afford it, I'm more than excited about 3D right now, especially for games.
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Oh, Sony, you've always been cool in my book.
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[www.ustream.tv]
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Haha, bet you wish you were there live for this, Mike.
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