Sigh what a rip off. Buy a real router, flash with open source firmware, make it a wireless bridge. Congrats you just saved an ass ton of money that will work with absolutely every device and can support multiple devices all at the same time.
Then again the people who actually paid $100 for a wireless adapter for the 360 probably weren't that bright to begin with. Can make the same thing for $20 with an old router off ebay. #madcatz
@Jay467: Wireless-N, if you have it at 5 GHz, has longer range and higher transmission rate than wireless-G (current standard). If we're talking about the 2.4 GHz Wireless-N, then it'll have longer range and marginally better transmission rate than wireless-G.
Wireless-G and Wireless-B both operate at 2.4 GHz but G has longer range, better overall stability, and higher transmission rate than B.
Why do people buy wireless adapters for their consoles? Run an Ethernet cable across your house, or if that's not your thing, then hook up your laptop up to the Xbox through Ethernet and with Windows, share the Internet connection. I've done it before. It's easy. #madcatz
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Compared to say the Wii, PS3's built-in wlan blows. Compatibility issues galore with my router.
An old D-Link 524, firmware shizzle doesn't help, and it works dandy with my wii, computer, mac, ds, and the other two computers in the household as well as the 360 back when I still had one.
My life got so much easier after buying a set of homeplugs, and I can actually play online without the horrible wlan ping. #madcatz
So why the hell is this one still more expensive than a real wireless N router from Linksys? A real router would work either as a bridge or as a router, and work with *everything*. #madcatz
@(Human) Gyaruson: But it'd be CHEAPER. Chances are if you are planning on buying a wireless adapter for your console, then you already have a wireless router and if you can get another router cheaper than the adapter which works with only 1 (or 2) consoles, then why not have another router? #madcatz
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@(Human) Gyaruson: If you needed two routers (one a bridge), it means with this you'd still need a second router. Still cheaper. I don't see how you can call two routers any sillier than one router and one Madcat bridge. You do realize that a linksys router can do everything this unit can, right? I hope so. #madcatz
Um, yes but... It's still a Mad Catz. That crap consistently has a higher failure rate than the actual 360. Anybody who's been in retail can tell you that the return rate on that stuff is the highest of any comparable product. (whatever the product may be)
That's why it's always cheaper.
I remember having almost as much Mad Catz in the defective bin as on the shelves...on a regular basis.
And yet...people keep buying it. Amazing. #madcatz
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I don't know, man. Mad Catz has been putting out some quality stuff as of late. The custom Fender Bass for Rock Band is pretty awesome, and even their controllers are becoming more and more likable.
I remember reading a year back or so that the new owner of Mad Catz was on a mission to legitimize the company, and that he knew that they were viewed as shoddy craftsmen. As far as I can tell he's been living up to that declaration. #madcatz
@NoBullet: (and Gyaruson) Actually this was as recent as 2006. Hardly the 90's.
That said, if Mad Catz has improved due to new ownership, then good for them and good for the consumer. Forgive me if I'm still somewhat hesitant to dive in the pool though. #madcatz
Gaming over a wifi network makes me shudder. I opted for the 50ft Ethernet cable and just ran it along the wall under the carpet from the living room to the bedroom.
The only exception is the Wii since I refuse to buy an Ethernet dongle and the actual MP the unit gets is minimal. #madcatz
@Taggart6: I don't always drink beer, but when I do...: hahaha, i know what you mean. either microsoft wireless for 99 bucks or a 50 ft ethernet cable for less than 10 bucks at frys. I also hardwired my nintendo wii when i found a usb ethernet dongle for 4 bucks at fry's too. #madcatz
@Taggart6: I don't always drink beer, but when I do...: Gaming over 802.11b sucks. It's really not as bad as everyone says though on a G or N network though.
If you got the option to run wires threw your house, it's a worth while idea. You might as well higher someone to run them threw the walls though. #madcatz
@Taggart6: I don't always drink beer, but when I do...:
You can get these networking devices that work through the wiring already in your house, so out through the power sockets. I forget what they're called properly, but it's a really good idea. #madcatz
@Taggart6: I don't always drink beer, but when I do...: Why does everyone say that gaming on wifi is horrid? I play on the net wireless flawlessly on my PS3. :| #madcatz
@Taggart6: I don't always drink beer, but when I do...: Ah I thought you lived in a house. Personally I don't care about wires running everywhere, but some people really make it a big deal and can't stand to see them even along the walls. #madcatz
@Taggart6: I don't always drink beer, but when I do...: Yeah. MY PS3 is an a different room than my net, but my Linksys router seems to do the job well. Hope it stays that way. #madcatz
There's really little point in adding 802.11n to a PS3 - 802.11g speed is considerably faster than anyones broadband connection anyway.
As for 360s, unless you're also streaming media around a home network, you don't need N either. #madcatz
@Jonny_eh: True, Wireless N can help, but if you've got a lot of interference in your area from other wireless networks, I'd stick with wired. #madcatz
@Rampage: 802.11g hits around 20 megabits/sec max under ideal, real-world connections (i.e. no interference and line of sight) which is barely enough to stream HD content.
802.11n on the other hand can reach 130 megabits/sec under real-world conditions which is plenty fast for streaming HD content. However, I should warn people that wired always beats wireless in that there are rarely any dropped packets. #madcatz
I think he is referring to the maximum transfer rate.
The theoretical (almost never realized) maximum for 802.11G is 54Mb/s whereas good ole ethernet can provide 100Mb/s and gigabit ethernet can give you 1000Mb/s.
802.11N brings up the maximum (and the range) to somewhere above 100Mb/s...maybe around 150.
However, it will likely never give you the maximum either.
For internet use, all of them are faster than your connection. #madcatz
@Covenant: Instead of previous generations where they competed a ton with manufacturers by underpricing them, I think Mad Catz has shifted towards making the peripherals for 3rd party games instead which are actually bundled with the game (like Guitar Hero and Rock Band) #madcatz
@AlexBadger's hat makes him look flyeth: yes. Make sure the router supports N, though. More range, better signal, etc are the plusses. My PS3s can't get nice signal and speed with G through several thick walls that have metal bars in them . #madcatz
We have an N router, but when I saw that AdHoc Party required that the PS3 used a wired connection, I'm hoping this sort of thing will trick it into thinking I'm wired.
Using a wire just isn't an option here, unfortunately. #madcatz
@somarix: I have the same issue with my Xbox 360. This is a much nicer solution then the $99.99 USD one that I haven't even seen around my town in ass-end-of-nowhere Canada. And I do already have a router that supports Wireless N because I was planning on upgrading the entire network eventually when I bought it. #madcatz
@MrFresh: If it's possible to disable this via software, I'm sure Microsoft will find a way to do it. That would leave you with an $80 lump of plastic. #madcatz
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Then again the people who actually paid $100 for a wireless adapter for the 360 probably weren't that bright to begin with. Can make the same thing for $20 with an old router off ebay. #madcatz
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Wireless-G and Wireless-B both operate at 2.4 GHz but G has longer range, better overall stability, and higher transmission rate than B.
[en.wikipedia.org] #madcatz
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An old D-Link 524, firmware shizzle doesn't help, and it works dandy with my wii, computer, mac, ds, and the other two computers in the household as well as the 360 back when I still had one.
My life got so much easier after buying a set of homeplugs, and I can actually play online without the horrible wlan ping. #madcatz
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But then you'd need two routers. One acting as a router and one as a bridge. Seems kind of silly. #madcatz
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Meh, I dunno. I'm trying my damndest to justify it, but I can't seem to figure it out either :) #madcatz
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I have my Bachelors in Information Technology. I'm quite aware :)
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That's why it's always cheaper.
I remember having almost as much Mad Catz in the defective bin as on the shelves...on a regular basis.
And yet...people keep buying it. Amazing. #madcatz
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I don't know, man. Mad Catz has been putting out some quality stuff as of late. The custom Fender Bass for Rock Band is pretty awesome, and even their controllers are becoming more and more likable.
I remember reading a year back or so that the new owner of Mad Catz was on a mission to legitimize the company, and that he knew that they were viewed as shoddy craftsmen. As far as I can tell he's been living up to that declaration. #madcatz
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That said, if Mad Catz has improved due to new ownership, then good for them and good for the consumer. Forgive me if I'm still somewhat hesitant to dive in the pool though. #madcatz
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The only exception is the Wii since I refuse to buy an Ethernet dongle and the actual MP the unit gets is minimal. #madcatz
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If you got the option to run wires threw your house, it's a worth while idea. You might as well higher someone to run them threw the walls though. #madcatz
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It was cheaper to get a free 50ft Ethernet cable from work and run it along the wall. #madcatz
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You can get these networking devices that work through the wiring already in your house, so out through the power sockets. I forget what they're called properly, but it's a really good idea. #madcatz
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Hardwired is more reliable. That's industry proven. If you can do it, why not? #madcatz
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As for 360s, unless you're also streaming media around a home network, you don't need N either. #madcatz
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For online gaming, N can also be much more reliable since it's not on the same spectrum as most portable phones or microwave ovens like G is. #madcatz
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802.11n on the other hand can reach 130 megabits/sec under real-world conditions which is plenty fast for streaming HD content. However, I should warn people that wired always beats wireless in that there are rarely any dropped packets. #madcatz
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[www.gamefaqs.com] #madcatz
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/brag #madcatz
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I think you misunderstood him... #madcatz
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I can download at roughly 1mb/s, so I don't notice anything slow when I'm gaming online wirelessly. #madcatz
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I think he is referring to the maximum transfer rate.
The theoretical (almost never realized) maximum for 802.11G is 54Mb/s whereas good ole ethernet can provide 100Mb/s and gigabit ethernet can give you 1000Mb/s.
802.11N brings up the maximum (and the range) to somewhere above 100Mb/s...maybe around 150.
However, it will likely never give you the maximum either.
For internet use, all of them are faster than your connection. #madcatz
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...can you Microsoft? Or... can you?!? #madcatz
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Before I moved my router, I routinely could stream 1080p w/ 5.1 dolby over my wireless G network.
Now they is of course slightly more latency for gaming, but that has nothing to do with throughput.
If you are getting crap internet speeds, most likely that's on your ISP. #madcatz
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Ya'll got trolled. #madcatz
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Does the same thing but is $30 cheaper.
Nuff said.
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We have an N router, but when I saw that AdHoc Party required that the PS3 used a wired connection, I'm hoping this sort of thing will trick it into thinking I'm wired.
Using a wire just isn't an option here, unfortunately. #madcatz
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But this isn't really a real wireless adapter the same way the MS wireless adapter works.
This just basically plugs into your Ethernet port and tricks the machine into thinking that you have a direct wired connection.
These devices have been around since the PS2/Xbox days. This one is just powered with wifi-n instead of wifi-g/b #madcatz
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@spiderweb1986: But if there money being lose M$ has a will! #madcatz