@melonpans: Yeah, totally. Escapism sucks. I mean, only WoW is a form of escapism, other video games are actually parallels of my real life and therefore don't fall into that category. #research
@DraconisXC: Ah, but I haven't lost any friends to other forms of video game escapism. I can still call them up and say "Let's go get some pizza and toss a frisbee around." And we will. And it is awesome.
Can't even call one of the WoW players anymore. If I want to talk to him, I'd have to make a WoW account just to do so. (And yeah, not doing that.) If I catch him when he's not playing WoW, it's always "but I've got a raid planned for tonight" or "I've already got plans to hang out with some friends in Org."
@Wizard: I went on vacation with a friend to Boston. Tons of stuff to do there (not counting Anime Boston which was going on at the time.) Half the time she was in the hotel room playing WoW with her boyfriend.
Warcraft 2 was actually a decent game for fun LAN parties where afterward you'd eat pizza together and talk about who kicked who's butt.
Now it's all obese people talking to their imaginary online friends.
@Wizard: So because you had some friends that play WoW and they became shut-ins, all WoW players must end up as shut-ins? Correlation does not imply causation.
I play WoW. I'm not a shut-in. In the last 4 years that I've played I've traveled to NYC, Austin, Huntsville, Atlanta, Los Angeles, and Hong Kong. I raid, 4 nights a week, and frequently cancel one in order to hang out with friends irl.
Point being, your experience does not define all experiences. I've known people that were more addicted to Counterstrike than most WoW players are addicted to their drug of choice.
@DraconisXC: That's the conclusion you jumped to. I was merely expressing my displeasure at WoW's addiction level and expressing something that happened to me. (And I'm sure it's a tale many can probably relate to.)
It was not meant to claim that ALL WoW players are shut-ins who abandon their friends to chat with friends on WoW all night. Or that WoW is the only game that people will spend hours upon hours playing, dropping everything else in their life.
The other thing that I'm wondering is given our community of Kotakuites, how many do we know are like you, someone who's willing to cancel a raid to hang out with friends in life, and how many do we know are like my friend, who's willing to cancel friends in real life to go raid? (Or even spend the night chatting in Org. Gahhh.)
I'm wondering which group is more common of people we Kotakuites know. (I figure in the grand scheme, people like you are far more common. WoW is not the diehard addiction many of us view it is. But...we're gamers who post on a gaming blog. Our slice of contact is probably a lot more specific.)
Ummmm, didn't you guys already post about this yesterday? [kotaku.com]
This year I'm at a bit of a loss...
The way I see it, I have three choices. An iPhone, A PS3, and A DSi.
However a Pay As You Go iPhone is super expensive (more than we can currently afford), the DSi isn't really something I have a great need for, since I have two other DSs, and my Mum doesn't like the idea of spending that much on a "toy" for the PS3, even though I point out to her, if she got me an iPhone, I would spend most of my time with it swinging it around like a Lightsaber...
I think I'll try to convince her to go with the PS3, at least that way I too can start buying Blu-Rays...
Does a PS3 only play Blu-Rays of the right region, or is it a multi-egion Blu-Ray player?
Do Multi-Region Blu-Ray players exist? As I'm not sure how much Anime is available on Blu Ray in the UK?
.... Heh, Anime, Blu-Ray and UK kinda rhyme... #research
@Cptn.PaxtonAstypalaea(Corsair): There are some multiregion Blu-Ray players. But a lot of Blu-Rays are also region free and that's helpful if you're buying the PS3 from a region. There's sites that tell you if a Blu-ray is region specific or not.
As for region-free Blu-ray players try the JVC XBP1 or there's quite a few Panasonics (DMP-BD 60k/80k/that series basically). Unfortunately I'm not entirely sure how great they are as blu-ray players having not owned them. However with the exception of the JVC most of the cost in excess of $300 and that would translate to more in the UK market.
PS3s only play Blu-Rays of the region they're manufactured for films, games are as most know region free. However as the US and Japan are the same Blu-ray region they get the same Blu-Ray discs. PAL has a different region. There are 3 in total.
PAYG iPhone is expensive I agree and there's bound to be a new iPhone in 5-6 months, so now isn't the ideal time to get one if you are as it's pretty much in its mid-life cycle.
I'm not too sure about suggesting a DSi as you've already got two DSes and there's going to be another one, perhaps a hardware revision in a year or two, but that's just my opinion. I can't say if that'll be factual. The Iphone however probably best to hold.
Hasn't it almost always been like this? Video Games dominating the holidays? Sure, you get the occassional Furby and Tickle Me Elmo, but it's been video games at the top for a while, I assumed.
Me personally, I don't see me getting anything. Thanks to Modern Warfare 2, Christmas has been canceled with all the good games getting pushed back to next year. #research
@TJH518: Oh I bet. I mean who REALLY needs 5 laptops going at once. If/When I build a sweet setup all I'm gonna have is 1 lappy and a flatscreen. I think that's all the average person needs. And havokjv is right. This IS overkill lol #research
I too wonder how far-reaching 'online game subscription' goes. I can know 6 people who have WoW subscriptions, but I also know about 8 or 9 older people who have subscriptions to game sites like Pogo, which are far from your standard MMO fare. #research
The Census bureau estimates the number of U.S. households roughly 115 Million. That means 16.2 million subscribers.
WoW can't be blamed for more than 5 million at best. WoW draws its numbers form a worldwide audience. Other MMOs do not break 200.000 really, at least in the U.S. alone.
That leaves Xbox Live as the last suspect for generating a large number of subscriptions. Roughly 14 million 360 sold in the U.S. and if you are willing to put the XBL Gold attach rate to roughly 50% , you are almost there. #research
now, does the calculate how many households run multiple game subscriptions? cause those crazy people like me, who have an EQ, EQ2 and City of Heroes subscription might be screwing with the numbers a bit. well, maybe not as much as those guys who 24-box a specific game, but still.
Only about 60% of American homes are connected to the internet... which mean a quarter of all internet connected homes have subscriptions to a MMO...
to be honestly though as impressive as these numbers are what I am really interested is how these statistics stack up against South Korea. They did after all invent the genre with Nexus. And with numbers like 90% of the country being connected with broadband if the same relativity holds up (with it wont since they are crazier about mmo over there) then that did be truly a scary percentage. #research
@(Starman) Starman: What I was thinking is I'd be more surprised to hear that there's enough of a difference between "14% of homes in general" and "14% of homes with the internet" that it had to be distinguished which was being talked about.
The internet is as basic as a refrigerator now. #research
I hope people do buy the games early next year. I'm sick of them loading up the last couple months of the year with more games than we can handle only to trickle titles out in the spring and summer. Some of us like to game year round after all... #original
Aw hell. October just got through kicking my ass, and look at this. Mass Effect, MAG (maybe), Bioshock, Dante, Splinter Cell, God of War, FFXIII, and Bad Company 2?
I'm starting to forget what it felt like to actually have money. #original
That's not too bad. Only two titles I really can't miss, I think. (Splinter Cell and Battlefield.) I'll wait with No More Heroes 2 for now. Haven't finished the first one yet! #original
Damn, Sony is going to destroy March 2010 in sales. GoW3 & FF13? I mean, I know the 360 gets FF13 as well, but I imagine anyone with both consoles will get the Ps3 version.
Actually, it's going to be real interesting to see how that sells in the US this March... #original
11/17/09
I lost a few friends to WoW.
WoW: Not Even Once! #research
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Can't even call one of the WoW players anymore. If I want to talk to him, I'd have to make a WoW account just to do so. (And yeah, not doing that.) If I catch him when he's not playing WoW, it's always "but I've got a raid planned for tonight" or "I've already got plans to hang out with some friends in Org."
...So yeahhh... #research
11/18/09
Warcraft 2 was actually a decent game for fun LAN parties where afterward you'd eat pizza together and talk about who kicked who's butt.
Now it's all obese people talking to their imaginary online friends.
11/18/09
I play WoW. I'm not a shut-in. In the last 4 years that I've played I've traveled to NYC, Austin, Huntsville, Atlanta, Los Angeles, and Hong Kong. I raid, 4 nights a week, and frequently cancel one in order to hang out with friends irl.
Point being, your experience does not define all experiences. I've known people that were more addicted to Counterstrike than most WoW players are addicted to their drug of choice.
11/18/09
It was not meant to claim that ALL WoW players are shut-ins who abandon their friends to chat with friends on WoW all night. Or that WoW is the only game that people will spend hours upon hours playing, dropping everything else in their life.
The other thing that I'm wondering is given our community of Kotakuites, how many do we know are like you, someone who's willing to cancel a raid to hang out with friends in life, and how many do we know are like my friend, who's willing to cancel friends in real life to go raid? (Or even spend the night chatting in Org. Gahhh.)
I'm wondering which group is more common of people we Kotakuites know. (I figure in the grand scheme, people like you are far more common. WoW is not the diehard addiction many of us view it is. But...we're gamers who post on a gaming blog. Our slice of contact is probably a lot more specific.)
11/17/09
I'm so bad XD #research
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11/17/09
This year I'm at a bit of a loss...
The way I see it, I have three choices. An iPhone, A PS3, and A DSi.
However a Pay As You Go iPhone is super expensive (more than we can currently afford), the DSi isn't really something I have a great need for, since I have two other DSs, and my Mum doesn't like the idea of spending that much on a "toy" for the PS3, even though I point out to her, if she got me an iPhone, I would spend most of my time with it swinging it around like a Lightsaber...
I think I'll try to convince her to go with the PS3, at least that way I too can start buying Blu-Rays...
Does a PS3 only play Blu-Rays of the right region, or is it a multi-egion Blu-Ray player?
Do Multi-Region Blu-Ray players exist? As I'm not sure how much Anime is available on Blu Ray in the UK?
.... Heh, Anime, Blu-Ray and UK kinda rhyme... #research
11/17/09
As for region-free Blu-ray players try the JVC XBP1 or there's quite a few Panasonics (DMP-BD 60k/80k/that series basically). Unfortunately I'm not entirely sure how great they are as blu-ray players having not owned them. However with the exception of the JVC most of the cost in excess of $300 and that would translate to more in the UK market.
PS3s only play Blu-Rays of the region they're manufactured for films, games are as most know region free. However as the US and Japan are the same Blu-ray region they get the same Blu-Ray discs. PAL has a different region. There are 3 in total.
PAYG iPhone is expensive I agree and there's bound to be a new iPhone in 5-6 months, so now isn't the ideal time to get one if you are as it's pretty much in its mid-life cycle.
I'm not too sure about suggesting a DSi as you've already got two DSes and there's going to be another one, perhaps a hardware revision in a year or two, but that's just my opinion. I can't say if that'll be factual. The Iphone however probably best to hold.
11/17/09
Me personally, I don't see me getting anything. Thanks to Modern Warfare 2, Christmas has been canceled with all the good games getting pushed back to next year. #research
11/17/09
Same here, I was looking forward to a lot of games this Christmas until they delayed everything because of Activision's huge stomach.
I guess this is a good time to catch up on all the older titles I might have missed over the past few years. #research
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WoW can't be blamed for more than 5 million at best. WoW draws its numbers form a worldwide audience. Other MMOs do not break 200.000 really, at least in the U.S. alone.
That leaves Xbox Live as the last suspect for generating a large number of subscriptions. Roughly 14 million 360 sold in the U.S. and if you are willing to put the XBL Gold attach rate to roughly 50% , you are almost there. #research
11/17/09
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Then again, the methodology of the research (publisher reported numbers or actual surveys) is still up in the air, so... #research
11/17/09
Honestly, if that was true, I'd be much more shocked that 14% aren't connected to the internet. :O #research
11/17/09
11/17/09
Only about 60% of American homes are connected to the internet... which mean a quarter of all internet connected homes have subscriptions to a MMO...
to be honestly though as impressive as these numbers are what I am really interested is how these statistics stack up against South Korea. They did after all invent the genre with Nexus. And with numbers like 90% of the country being connected with broadband if the same relativity holds up (with it wont since they are crazier about mmo over there) then that did be truly a scary percentage. #research
11/17/09
The internet is as basic as a refrigerator now. #research
11/16/09
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11/16/09
I'm starting to forget what it felt like to actually have money. #original
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11/16/09
Actually, it's going to be real interesting to see how that sells in the US this March... #original