@Zerod Zunaro: There are fine distinctions to be made, but fundamentally, most MMOs are the same. When I first played WoW, I thought "This is Lineage 2 with terrible graphics." When I played Lineage 2 I thought "this is kind of like Ragnarok, but in 3D." When I played Ragnarok, I thought "this is like a colourful vibrant Diablo 2."
Of course it kind of does games like this a disservice to say that they're totally the same, but generally a good 90% of the conventions will be the same game to game, and WoW was anything but the first... #aion
@fuchikoma: Taken, but more or less, every MMO of the genre will revolve around leveling, grabbing gear, once your strke the end game, you grind the game for more gear.
They will, eventually, spruce up the thing with events, but the once epic quest you started undertaking of slaying Pigma, the pig of the 9th hells will suddenly become mundane, because each week, you bring his head to the town as a trophy of a success and for some inexplicable reason, you know the next week the monster will be back with different treasure, but with the same strategy. #aion
@Zerod Zunaro: True... :/
I've heard people say Aion's totally different, but from the outside, it looks like the next iteration, with free flight.
Eve Online was kind of different, but not my idea of a good time... I had plenty of cash to buy any ship upgrades I wanted, but had to wait weeks no matter what I did to train up skills to use the equipment. Can't train an alt character at the same time either. Then there's the gameplay, which for me was mostly watching my ship fly from point to point on autopilot, and sometimes mining asteroids for hours... the endgame appears impossible to reach though, as you can always get bigger and bigger, and if you do reach the top, you're one of enough people to count on one hand, and will probably lose it again in a huge battle. #aion
@fuchikoma: I'd say that Eve Online is for people that are entrepreneur and megalomaniacs at best. It is not an action driven game, no experience, no insane powers. Your story is just one of many regular men and women working their asses hard to increase their wealth, build a corporation and eventually an empire. There is no real end-game since the end-game is when you sit atop the most prominent corporation.
Going back to AION, I will consider it like all other MMO, a grind fest, that will end up at the maximum level with e-penis jousting of "I got a super duper rare blade" and the other one will answer with "I got a virtual rating that proves I'm so good at killing other virtual players".
In effect, people with nothing trying to prove they got something worth of showing. #aion
@fuchikoma: Agreed, but I suppose the same can be said for most videogame genres. Most good FPS and fighter games have the same basic set up and mechanics as any other of it's kinds. Outside of graphics, I feel it mostly comes down to story/plot that makes a game different from the others. MMO's have story but honestly it takes a back seat which makes them all seem more similar to each other since it's not so much the driving force. You don't have to care about plot since you're not having a cinematic thrown in your face every half hour with MMO's.
@Kitty: Well said. A lot of MMOs do have a carefully thought out back story, but ultimately the motivation tends to be personal, or emerge from what people are doing in the game, so it can all seem the same. It can also be hard to take the story seriously if the missions can be easily stripped down to "bring me ten pelts, five teeth, and two rare gems," but if you want to get into the story, it's pretty much always there.
But for someone who doesn't play a genre, it will tend to blur together. I like sim racers and wouldn't expect most people to tell one from the next. Some people can't even distinguish falling block puzzles because they just think "Tetris." #aion
Worst purchase I made all year. Grind fest, horrible craft mechanics that takes a lot of time, dated quest designs, boring areas... I can´t believe some sites are giving this game a 8 or 9. Character creation was actually the only good thing.
There´s nothing new here, but the great sales show that people love MMOs and different social experiences. #aion
@RavenKing: It's worth checking out considering most of the content is free and your not obligated to purchase anything. In fact, you have the option to grind favor with which you can purchase items. #aion
@RavenKing: IIRC yes though it takes a while...but it is an option.
Also, they have sales on the premium content every week so for a few bucks you could buy additional dungeons.
It's a neat system and worth checking out. #aion
I've always felt that console wars were so artificial; even as a child me and my friends shared our SNES and Genesis, our Gameboy and Gamegear. We'd even buy games for each others systems (i still have a few dreamcast games around, despite no dreamcast).
Also, I am afraid to say this but...would No. 1 on the list be 'FIRST!' ?
@Aeros: Yeah I remember the good old days when instead of arguing with each other over whose console was superior, you'd play each others consoles and enjoy them both.
@Fontane: Wait... What kind of messed up fairyland did you come from boy?
Back in my time It was a harsh distopia. One one side there was Nintendo with their warrior plumbers and on the other Sega with their trained hedgehogs.
This was the kind of thing that tore apart friendships, it pit families against each other as Sega tried conquering the vast Nintendo Empire.
I still have battlescars from that time, brittle calluses that remind me every day what I was fighting for. I was just a wee lad with a NES controller in my grip. I can't at this moment recall how much blood sweat and urin went into proving Nintendos at that point obvious superiority. There are people to this day I cannot speak with due to damages from those times.
Console wars are harsh, but is all we have ever known.
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Can't wait to see when NCSoft will put the usual micro-transaction bullshit they usually do in their game. #aion
10/20/09
Of course it kind of does games like this a disservice to say that they're totally the same, but generally a good 90% of the conventions will be the same game to game, and WoW was anything but the first... #aion
10/20/09
They will, eventually, spruce up the thing with events, but the once epic quest you started undertaking of slaying Pigma, the pig of the 9th hells will suddenly become mundane, because each week, you bring his head to the town as a trophy of a success and for some inexplicable reason, you know the next week the monster will be back with different treasure, but with the same strategy. #aion
10/20/09
I've heard people say Aion's totally different, but from the outside, it looks like the next iteration, with free flight.
Eve Online was kind of different, but not my idea of a good time... I had plenty of cash to buy any ship upgrades I wanted, but had to wait weeks no matter what I did to train up skills to use the equipment. Can't train an alt character at the same time either. Then there's the gameplay, which for me was mostly watching my ship fly from point to point on autopilot, and sometimes mining asteroids for hours... the endgame appears impossible to reach though, as you can always get bigger and bigger, and if you do reach the top, you're one of enough people to count on one hand, and will probably lose it again in a huge battle. #aion
10/20/09
Going back to AION, I will consider it like all other MMO, a grind fest, that will end up at the maximum level with e-penis jousting of "I got a super duper rare blade" and the other one will answer with "I got a virtual rating that proves I'm so good at killing other virtual players".
In effect, people with nothing trying to prove they got something worth of showing. #aion
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But for someone who doesn't play a genre, it will tend to blur together. I like sim racers and wouldn't expect most people to tell one from the next. Some people can't even distinguish falling block puzzles because they just think "Tetris." #aion
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NPD is just brick n Mortar sales yeah? #aion
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There´s nothing new here, but the great sales show that people love MMOs and different social experiences. #aion
10/20/09
So has the decline of WOW!
Muahaha! #aion
10/20/09
I've had Aion for a total of 2 days and while a fresh change from WoW I'm trying to find someone to take the discs and free play time off my hands.
To each their own I suppose. #aion
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No surprise though really. How many truly good titles are there? I'd say about 20. ;) #aion
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Also, they have sales on the premium content every week so for a few bucks you could buy additional dungeons.
It's a neat system and worth checking out. #aion
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hell its not even that great on wii (excluding some games of course)
i really dont wanna see the future of gaming turn into a waggle fest whats so wrong with a normal controller?
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I appreciated this chart. I also think that waggle is the major salepoint with Wii systems, but isn't a priority for other console users.
@excel_excel:
I think he's talking about natal.
07/12/09
No no no silly ... you will now be flapping your arms like a bird.
"flap flap flapping"
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rofl.
07/12/09
Also, I am afraid to say this but...would No. 1 on the list be 'FIRST!' ?
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Back in my time It was a harsh distopia. One one side there was Nintendo with their warrior plumbers and on the other Sega with their trained hedgehogs.
This was the kind of thing that tore apart friendships, it pit families against each other as Sega tried conquering the vast Nintendo Empire.
I still have battlescars from that time, brittle calluses that remind me every day what I was fighting for. I was just a wee lad with a NES controller in my grip. I can't at this moment recall how much blood sweat and urin went into proving Nintendos at that point obvious superiority. There are people to this day I cannot speak with due to damages from those times.
Console wars are harsh, but is all we have ever known.
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However, I prefer the sound of "PSWii360" though.
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I say keep it as is, but throw an 'n' in there (for..um...N-Gage).
Then it would be pronounced WiinS360.
Wiines. It sounds like penis.
HA HA HA!
Well *I* find it funny at least.
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Whoops. That was my intent. Completely missed that. Ah, well.
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It's missing achievements, err, I mean trophies.
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That's Mario.
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